HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada


Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #5341  
Old Posted Nov 3, 2021, 8:40 PM
O-tacular's Avatar
O-tacular O-tacular is online now
Fake News
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Calgary
Posts: 25,618
Looks like Clint Howard to me.

Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5342  
Old Posted Nov 3, 2021, 11:32 PM
Djeffery's Avatar
Djeffery Djeffery is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: London
Posts: 6,085
Quote:
Originally Posted by megadude View Post
Lucille Ball done right and done wrong. The one on left thankfully replaced the one on right.


https://www.syracuse.com/entertainme...ll_statue.html
Right looks like Paulie Walnuts from The Sopranos lol.

Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5343  
Old Posted Nov 9, 2021, 7:04 PM
JHikka's Avatar
JHikka JHikka is offline
ハルウララ
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Toronto
Posts: 12,853
The Toronto Arrows of Major League Rugby will be starting their 2022 campaign in February at Starlight Stadium in Langford (Victoria) on February 11th against LA. The team will then play their remaining seven home matches at York Lions Stadium at York University.

https://torontoarrows.com/news/schedule-2022/

https://torontoarrows.com/news/bc-2022/


Last edited by JHikka; Nov 9, 2021 at 7:41 PM.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5344  
Old Posted Nov 10, 2021, 2:15 PM
JHikka's Avatar
JHikka JHikka is offline
ハルウララ
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Toronto
Posts: 12,853
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5345  
Old Posted Nov 13, 2021, 5:29 PM
thurmas's Avatar
thurmas thurmas is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Posts: 7,598
https://3downnation.com/2021/11/12/n...with-bc-place/

New B.C. Lions owner Amar Doman wants to evaluate ‘everything’ in organization, including ‘arrangements’ with BC Place

The B.C. Lions may still be fighting for their playoff lives on the field, but their future off of it is very much secure.

New franchise owner Amar Doman, not yet 90 days on the job, has instantly provided stability for the organization, but that doesn’t mean the status quo will be continuing. Eyeing down his first offseason at the helm, Doman is committed to evaluating every aspect of the team, not just the product on the field.

“We’re going to go through everything, tip to tail,” Doman told viewers of CTV Morning Live on Friday. “We’re going to go through the marketing department, sales. We’re going to go through the team, the facilities, we’re going to take a look at long-term things [inaudible] to understand what we can do to make the fan experience better.”

That expansive overview of the organization is set to leave no stone unturned, including something that fans have long taken for granted: the team’s home stadium. While remaining vague, Doman hinted that changes could be on the horizon when it comes to the Lions’ relationship with BC Place.

“Being in B.C. Place is great. It’s also sometimes difficult with the arrangements we have,” Doman alluded. “We’re going to look at everything but number one, we’re going to start with how do we get more fans in and get more fan excitement?”

The team’s home since it opened in 1983, BC Place and its recognizable domed roof have become synonymous with the Lions franchise. However, the team has struggled to approach even half of the provincially-owned facility’s 54,500 seat capacity in recent years.

In the past, complaints have arisen in regards to the lack of additional revenue opportunities that come from the current stadium arrangement, with Crown corporation PavCo controlling food and beverage sales. Other critics have argued that the stadium’s location in downtown Vancouver actually deters some fans from attending games, given the bulk of Lions fans commute in from suburban areas and other cities across the Lower Mainland. This has been particularly attributed to the team’s strong South Asian fan base, a demographic which Doman himself was once a part of.

Not having to brave the traffic and parking costs of the downtown core could convince more fans to switch off their television sets and head to the ticket counter, but the Lower Mainland lacks a viable, ready-made alternative to BC Place. Nevertheless, Doman will be looking at every possibility and is unafraid to have the vital conversations that have long been left by the wayside.

“I’ve already had a bunch of ideas. We’ve been talking to a lot of people locally, the business community, the sports community, and these are conversations, frankly, to your point earlier that have drifted, that haven’t happened in years,” he said.

“No fault to Mr. Braley when you own the team for 25 great years, but local matters and we’re here and we’re not standby owners. We’re going to be involved on the end of the fan experience, not running the team, but certainly getting people excited about the B.C. Lions.”

What role BC Place plays in that effort remains to be seen, but whatever it is will have to start with winning on the field.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5346  
Old Posted Nov 17, 2021, 2:21 PM
jonny24 jonny24 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Caledonia, often in Hamilton and Norfolk
Posts: 1,669
Quote:
Originally Posted by JHikka View Post
The Toronto Arrows of Major League Rugby will be starting their 2022 campaign in February at Starlight Stadium in Langford (Victoria) on February 11th against LA. The team will then play their remaining seven home matches at York Lions Stadium at York University.

https://torontoarrows.com/news/schedule-2022/

https://torontoarrows.com/news/bc-2022/

While I get the appeal of spreading the Arrows brand around the country a bit, as a season ticket holder I'm not very happy about this. This will be our 10th "home" league game in a row played not in Toronto. in 2020 the Las Vegas weekend was considered a "home" game, our only one before they shut down for Covid. Then we played all of 2021 in Atlanta, AND had to give up one of THOSE "home" games to play in New Orleans.

I get that the weather sucks here, but if all those American teams want to insist on starting the season in February, they should just have to deal with what they signed up for and come play in the snow. Mexico just did it!Especially this year, the fans would definitely turn out since we haven't been able to attend for so long.

On the bright side it's being done intelligently with regards to travel, with us playing at Seattle the week before and staying out west. And all the Canada/ former Pacific Pride players on the team will be familiar with the Langford Stadium since it's the home of Rugby Canada.

Edit: I know why the season starts when it does, it's so it doesn't clash with the international window, but it doesn't mean I'm happy about it. Rugby Canada is so garbage that I'd rather say screw the international season and have a more advantageous schedule for the Arrows.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5347  
Old Posted Nov 17, 2021, 2:58 PM
Acajack's Avatar
Acajack Acajack is offline
Gros Méchant Loup
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Province 2, Canadian Empire
Posts: 72,949
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonny24 View Post
While I get the appeal of spreading the Arrows brand around the country a bit, as a season ticket holder I'm not very happy about this. This will be our 10th "home" league game in a row played not in Toronto. in 2020 the Las Vegas weekend was considered a "home" game, our only one before they shut down for Covid. Then we played all of 2021 in Atlanta, AND had to give up one of THOSE "home" games to play in New Orleans.

I get that the weather sucks here, but if all those American teams want to insist on starting the season in February, they should just have to deal with what they signed up for and come play in the snow. Mexico just did it!Especially this year, the fans would definitely turn out since we haven't been able to attend for so long.

On the bright side it's being done intelligently with regards to travel, with us playing at Seattle the week before and staying out west. And all the Canada/ former Pacific Pride players on the team will be familiar with the Langford Stadium since it's the home of Rugby Canada.

Edit: I know why the season starts when it does, it's so it doesn't clash with the international window, but it doesn't mean I'm happy about it. Rugby Canada is so garbage that I'd rather say screw the international season and have a more advantageous schedule for the Arrows.
An all-Canadian top-level rugby league would resolve that problem immediately, would it not?
__________________
Loin des yeux, loin du coeur.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5348  
Old Posted Nov 17, 2021, 3:19 PM
esquire's Avatar
esquire esquire is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 37,483
Quote:
Originally Posted by Acajack View Post
An all-Canadian top-level rugby league would resolve that problem immediately, would it not?
I'm not so sure about that. The CPL is about to start its playoffs. With the weather we have in Winnipeg right now, Valour FC would probably be playing to maybe 300 fans this weekend had they qualified.

I'm not sure if this is covid scheduling or what, but it does not seem intelligent to me.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5349  
Old Posted Nov 17, 2021, 3:24 PM
JHikka's Avatar
JHikka JHikka is offline
ハルウララ
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Toronto
Posts: 12,853
Quote:
Originally Posted by esquire View Post
I'm not sure if this is covid scheduling or what, but it does not seem intelligent to me.
It's COVID scheduling. 2021 has been June-November whereas 2019 was April-October. They could probably push the season to March-September if they really wanted to but an October finish isn't terrible.

Not sure what the CPL has to really do with a national rugby league, though. My first question on that would be 'which rugby would you play?' Followed by a slew of other logistic issues that usually plague Canadian leagues. Think there's desire for only a handful of teams across the country and likely not enough to support a national league at the moment. Something similar to the NLL (like MLR...) is probably feasible.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5350  
Old Posted Nov 17, 2021, 3:36 PM
esquire's Avatar
esquire esquire is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 37,483
Quote:
Originally Posted by JHikka View Post
It's COVID scheduling. 2021 has been June-November whereas 2019 was April-October. They could probably push the season to March-September if they really wanted to but an October finish isn't terrible.

Not sure what the CPL has to really do with a national rugby league, though.
jonny24 was upset with rugby scheduling. Acajack suggested that a domestic rugby league might fix that. I pointed out that the CPL's schedule doesn't necessarily mean that a domestic league gets you a good schedule sensitive to weather conditions across the country.

An October finish isn't terrible but having it end in December is crazy. People will sit in the stands for an exceptional WCQ event, but they aren't going to freeze their heinies off to watch a somewhat meaningless Forge and Cavalry match. Between the cold weather and the multiple other distractions for fans by this point in the year it just doesn't make sense. It would have been better to have played an abridged season.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5351  
Old Posted Nov 17, 2021, 3:39 PM
JHikka's Avatar
JHikka JHikka is offline
ハルウララ
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Toronto
Posts: 12,853
Quote:
Originally Posted by esquire View Post
jonny24 was upset with rugby scheduling. Acajack suggested that a domestic rugby league might fix that. I pointed out that the CPL's schedule doesn't necessarily mean that a domestic league gets you a good schedule sensitive to weather conditions across the country.
MLS scheduling pushes games in Toronto and Montreal back into March or April despite a February start. There's no reason why rugby couldn't do that, and it seems like the Arrows are only doing it to take advantage of Rugby Canada being in Victoria and nearby for an away game in Seattle. I'm assuming money is much tighter on the MLR front compared to MLS.

Quote:
Originally Posted by esquire View Post
An October finish isn't terrible but having it end in December is crazy. Between the cold weather and the multiple other distractions for fans by this point in the year it just doesn't make sense. It would have been better to have played an abridged season.
The CPL isn't the only Canadian league struggling with this issue.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5352  
Old Posted Nov 17, 2021, 3:45 PM
esquire's Avatar
esquire esquire is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 37,483
Quote:
Originally Posted by JHikka View Post
MLS scheduling pushes games in Toronto and Montreal back into March or April despite a February start. There's no reason why rugby couldn't do that
But if you have a domestic league you run into the issue of where to play the games... unless all the early season games will be played in Windsor, Victoria and Maple Creek until the rest of the country thaws out.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5353  
Old Posted Nov 17, 2021, 8:47 PM
jonny24 jonny24 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Caledonia, often in Hamilton and Norfolk
Posts: 1,669
Quote:
Originally Posted by Acajack View Post
An all-Canadian top-level rugby league would resolve that problem immediately, would it not?
Yes and no. We could schedule to suit our weather. But World Rugby laws mean all players must be released for international duty. during the designated windows - the July window is the pain in the ass one for domestic scheduling. Currently the MLR wants to be finished by early June so players have a week or two of camp before tests start in July. In a Canada-suited schedule, you're going to need to either take a break during internationals (breaking up the flow if the season which could make it hard to grow attention on a young league) or play through it without the top players (reducing fan interest and impacting teams unevenly). Or, fit the season in between the July and November Tests, but that's only ~14 weeks.

World Rugby's calendar really sucks, it's based on balance between Norther Hemisphere and Southern Hemisphere, but the big NH teams are Uk/Ireland/France who play their domestic season through the winter, Sept-May.

I don't have a particularly good solution, and a Canada-only league isn't viable anyway, the mostly-US based MLR is still in start-up mode and isn't making money yet either.

I'm mostly just bitter about how tough 2021 was for us, and think the US teams should play in here February for some payback. But having all 8 of our home games be at home should have been a given, IMO, at the absolute bare minimum.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5354  
Old Posted Nov 19, 2021, 5:17 AM
ZeDgE ZeDgE is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,207
https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...g-into-details

Seems the arena is finally a go, early 2022 construction begins.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5355  
Old Posted Nov 19, 2021, 6:11 PM
Harrison's Avatar
Harrison Harrison is offline
A Better Place
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 3,052
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeDgE View Post
https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...g-into-details

Seems the arena is finally a go, early 2022 construction begins.
Given the relatively simple design, I think the overall look and feel will come down to cladding material choice. We don't want another Stanley Milner Library situation on our hands. Choosing the wrong cladding could make or break the look of this arena.
__________________
Bingo bango bongo
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5356  
Old Posted Nov 19, 2021, 6:15 PM
JHikka's Avatar
JHikka JHikka is offline
ハルウララ
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Toronto
Posts: 12,853
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5357  
Old Posted Nov 19, 2021, 6:54 PM
esquire's Avatar
esquire esquire is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 37,483
I've been waiting for the proposed Calgary arena to grow on me, but it's not happening. I don't like it and I think the design is a mistake.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5358  
Old Posted Nov 19, 2021, 7:41 PM
Hackslack Hackslack is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 2,807
Quote:
Originally Posted by esquire View Post
I've been waiting for the proposed Calgary arena to grow on me, but it's not happening. I don't like it and I think the design is a mistake.
I agree. The design is mediocre. Hopefully that means the budget is more allocated to the interior design and fan experience.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5359  
Old Posted Nov 19, 2021, 7:48 PM
esquire's Avatar
esquire esquire is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 37,483
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hackslack View Post
I agree. The design is mediocre. Hopefully that means the budget is more allocated to the interior design and fan experience.
One would hope.

Maybe my expectations are just heightened because it's Calgary and they are known for somewhat splashy buildings. But between the fieldhouse proposal for the Stampeders and now this thing for the Flames, Calgary is responsible for two of the biggest clunkers we've seen among Canadian arena and stadium proposals in recent decades.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5360  
Old Posted Nov 19, 2021, 8:00 PM
thewave46 thewave46 is offline
Closed account
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 3,530
Quote:
Originally Posted by esquire View Post
I've been waiting for the proposed Calgary arena to grow on me, but it's not happening. I don't like it and I think the design is a mistake.
It's interesting to see how arenas and stadiums have kind of gone through a cycle of distinctive to bland and in some cases overcompensated coming back (Who knows how Rogers Arena in Edmonton will date?)

The new Calgary proposal gives me very bland vibes. It's not quite Canadian Tire Place bad as 'insert generic rink here', but it doesn't give me the same sense of place the Saddledome did. It might be distinctive if they cheap out on the cladding for all the wrong reasons.
Reply With Quote
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada
Forum Jump



Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 7:28 PM.

     
SkyscraperPage.com - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.