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zzptichka · #**5241** Posted **Oct 11, 2017, 1:59 AM**

Some geniuses out there on youtube

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A train running this slow will do NOTHING to move people around efficiently, what an absolute waste of tax payer dollars.

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See just like the previous video shown earlier this year the train is going maybe 40km/h what an inefficient way of spending our tax dollars.

kevinbottawa · #**5242** Posted **Oct 11, 2017, 2:58 AM**

Looking at those canopies over the platforms, both in these photos and the renderings, at some stations they have glass and at other stations they have no glass. What's the logic behind that?

OCCheetos · #**5243** Posted **Oct 11, 2017, 1:05 PM**

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Looking at those canopies over the platforms, both in these photos and the renderings, at some stations they have glass and at other stations they have no glass. What's the logic behind that?

They might not be installed yet.

kmcamp · #**5244** Posted **Oct 11, 2017, 5:16 PM**

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Some geniuses out there on youtube

Looking at youtube comments in general is a way to instill your lack of faith in humanity

Truenorth00 · #**5245** Posted **Oct 12, 2017, 12:34 AM**

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Some geniuses out there on youtube

I attended the original consultations that the City had. Some of the comments were incredible.

After one of the engineers or planners had just finished presenting for 20 mins on why the Confederation Line was needed, the first question,"We're not Toronto. Why do we need a train? Why can't we just stick with buses."

That single exchange has destroyed a significant portion of my optimism for urbanism in Ottawa.

caveat.doctor · #**5246** Posted **Oct 12, 2017, 1:54 AM**

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After one of the engineers or planners had just finished presenting for 20 mins on why the Confederation Line was needed, the first question,"We're not Toronto. Why do we need a train? Why can't we just stick with buses."

That single exchange has destroyed a significant portion of my optimism for urbanism in Ottawa.

What did the engineer/planner reply?

swimmer_spe · #**5247** Posted **Oct 12, 2017, 2:35 AM**

What is going to happen with the buses that ran the Transitway when the LRT is done? Did they work a good transfer site at the terminals?

roger1818 · #**5248** Posted **Oct 12, 2017, 12:51 PM**

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What is going to happen with the buses that ran the Transitway when the LRT is done?

Many of the buses are nearing their end of life, so they will need to be retired soon anyway. In the meantime Stage 2 construction will have the Trillium line replaced by buses, so many will be assigned there.

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Did they work a good transfer site at the terminals?

The major transfer stations (Blair, Hurdman and Tunney's) have large bus loops to allow for efficient transfers. Those loops will be inside fare paid zones, so you won't dig out your pass or transfer.

kmcamp · #**5249** Posted **Oct 12, 2017, 1:08 PM**

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The major transfer stations (Blair, Hurdman and Tunney's) have large bus loops to allow for efficient transfers. Those loops will be inside fare paid zones, so you won't dig out your pass or transfer.

I'm really hoping that they'll use high capacity buses at all times on routes like the 6,7,11 and 12 now that they'll be freed up from the suburb->downtown run

acottawa · #**5250** Posted **Oct 12, 2017, 1:22 PM**

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I'm really hoping that they'll use high capacity buses at all times on routes like the 6,7,11 and 12 now that they'll be freed up from the suburb->downtown run

I wish they would use double deckers instead of the artics - they seem to work better in an urban setting (mostly because there is more room to stand).

roger1818 · #**5251** Posted **Oct 12, 2017, 3:36 PM**

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I'm really hoping that they'll use high capacity buses at all times on routes like the 6,7,11 and 12 now that they'll be freed up from the suburb->downtown run

I don't see why they wouldn't, but only time will tell.

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I wish they would use double deckers instead of the artics - they seem to work better in an urban setting

But they only have two doors and a stairwell, which means longer dwell times at stops.

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(mostly because there is more room to stand).

Huh??? I was under the impression that (in the configuration used in Ottawa anyway) have more seats and less room to stand (and thus a lower overall capacity).

kmcamp · #**5252** Posted **Oct 12, 2017, 4:52 PM**

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I don't see why they wouldn't, but only time will tell.

But they only have two doors and a stairwell, which means longer dwell times at stops.

Huh??? I was under the impression that (in the configuration used in Ottawa anyway) have more seats and less room to stand (and thus a lower overall capacity).

They have a lot of seats upstairs, but there's lot's of standing room downstairs. The dwell time isn't bad at all as long as people know double decker etiquette (come downstairs before your stop), at least on the one I used to ride all the time.

roger1818 · #**5253** Posted **Oct 12, 2017, 5:09 PM**

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They have a lot of seats upstairs, but there's lot's of standing room downstairs.

But more than an articulated bus, with its wide aisles for most of the length?

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The dwell time isn't bad at all as long as people know double decker etiquette (come downstairs before your stop), at least on the one I used to ride all the time.

But with only 2 doors instead of 3, it can't be as short as an artic, especially if rear door boarding is permitted.

acottawa · #**5254** Posted **Oct 12, 2017, 6:18 PM**

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But more than an articulated bus, with its wide aisles for most of the length?

But with only 2 doors instead of 3, it can't be as short as an artic, especially if rear door boarding is permitted.

I wouldn't say the articulated buses have wide aisles, in most cases it is a very tight fit, and since the aisles are the only place to stand it plugs up pretty quickly. I've certainly found the double deckers to work more efficiently (although they would be more effective if they had stairs at the back like they do in the UK).

roger1818 · #**5255** Posted **Oct 13, 2017, 5:44 PM**

Construction Update
Week of OCTOBER 12, 2017

This week on the Confederation Line, progress was visible at the western stations with structural steel installations at Tunney’s Pasture and porcelain panel installations at Pimisi Station. At Lyon Station, crews are busy working to complete both the east and west TVS. Over in the east, elevators and escalators are being installed, concrete pours are taking place and crews are preparing to begin landscaping at Blair and Cyrville stations.

Structural steel installation advances at Tunney's Pasture Station

West Stations

Tunney’s Pasture Station
Structural steel installation is set to be completed over the next two weeks, for the overhead canopy. Down below, crews are focused on masonry activities. Completion of the sprinkler system, waterline, and heat tracing is ongoing.

Bayview Station
Current work focuses on completion of the electrical room and electrical work in the concourse area. Platform steel is set to be completed by this week. Painting of steel continues and plaza concrete work has started. Other mechanical and electrical work is ongoing, including mobilization to begin elevator installation.

Pimisi Station
Precast-concrete at stairways in the station continues. Porcelain panels are going up at the platform and intumescent painting is progressing. Other work focuses on elevator installation and the escalator machine room equipment. A high voltage switch is set to be delivered in two weeks in anticipation of permanent power being established in early November.

Work on the north and south walls at Parliament Station west entrance

Central Stations

Lyon Station cavern
This week, the remaining curbs for the west TVS and stair openings are formed and poured inside the station. Plumbing, electrical and permanent lighting installations continue.

Lyon Station west entrance
Queen and Bay Street north side civil and road work concludes this week. Crews ramp up work on the TVS with concrete works such as rebar, pouring and stripping. In addition, glazing and tile installation occurs.

Lyon Station east entrance
Crews allocate resources to complete the TVS with stripping forms, backfilling and beginning to form the slopped wall.

Parliament Station cavern
Stair installation takes place this week inside the cavern. The first stage of electrical rough-ins continues and masonry walls are completed for the upper mezzanine. At the concourse level, the central wall for the concourse takes shape with forming.

Parliament Station west entrance
The north and south walls progress, chipping concrete as well as cutting and installing rebar occurs for the north wall, and chipping takes place for the south wall.

Parliament Station east entrance
This week, the adit continues to take shape with forming and the first concrete pour. For the station’s relief shaft walls, rebar installation will be completed and forming and pours will occur.

Progress of construction at the Rideau Station east entrance ground level

Rideau Station cavern
In the running tunnel, rebar installation continues for the invert slab and crews prepare for the final layer of shotcrete in the eastern half of the station transition. Formwork installation and stripping continue this week for the concourse slabs, along with ongoing arch rebar and concrete pours.

Rideau Station west entrance
Concrete works ramp up this week with partial stripping of the arch, rebar installs and installation of falsework and concrete pours for the roof slab.

Rideau Station east entrance
Wall insulation continues for the HVAC room as well as rebar and concrete pours for the TVS slab. Systems crews work in the TPSS room with electrical installations and the mechanical room progresses with rebar, concrete pours and coating.

East Portal
Concluding this week is the final pour for the fan niche and waterproofing nears completion. Rebar and concrete pours continue for the walls.

uOttawa Station
Current work focuses on completion of the station’s porcelain panel installations. At the concourse level, work is proceeding on the duct, plumbing, and fire protection systems. Construction of the pedestrian plaza is also progressing.

Progress of construction at Tremblay Station

East Stations

Lees Station
Crews are working on completing the porcelain panels in the ancillary building. There is ongoing testing of the sprinkler system at the station. And two more concrete pours will be taking place at the platform level. At the platform level, the framing for the porcelain panels continues and is expected to wrap up next week. On the concourse and platform, steel and concrete crews will be finalizing the retaining wall.

Hurdman Station
Excavating, grading and paving of Hurdman bus loop has begun, and will continue through mid-November. Elevator and escalator installation is ongoing. Framing on the south side of the station is ongoing. There is also work on the mullions, or vertical partitions, for glass walls in the station. Intumescent painting and regular painting continues to progress.

Tremblay Station
Crews are doing the waterproofing of the concourse area and completing the windscreen posts. The interlock pavers in the canopy area are nearly complete. The snowmelts continue to progress. And there are two concrete pours scheduled to take place this week. As well, installation of the commissioning and testing equipment is ongoing.

Crews completing glazing at Blair Station

St-Laurent Station
Current work focuses on installing the fans inside the station, including the two overhead door panels. The coloured concrete in the the fare gate area is also being installed. The electrical work at St.-Laurent includes the connections to the air handling unit and the condensing unit. Other ongoing work includes painting of windscreen posts and mullions.

Cyrville Station
Final grading is concluding. Other scheduled works includes completion of the topping platform. Outside the station, trailer demobilization and landscaping work will take place soon.

Blair Station
Current work focuses on the remaining stair posts and completion of glazing works. Landscaping is taking place north of the station. Completion of the bus loop and the bus operator building progresses.

LRV testing end point at East Portal

Guideway and Trackwork

At the western portion of the guideway, grouting will continue at the Tunney’s Pasture diamond crossover. Crews are also working on the floating track slab at Parliament Station and on the diamond crossover between Lyon to Parliament Station. Upcoming guideway works near uOttawa Station will include installation of lighting within the jersey barriers along Nicholas Street. Testing and commissioning also moves along; on September 18th and 21st, trains were tested to uOttawa Station for the first time.

Trackwork occurring on the north side of Parliament Station

Upcoming Construction Activities

In the coming weeks, the following construction activities are scheduled to occur:

Landscaping at Cyrville Station.
Installation of lighting inside jersey barrier by uOttawa Station.
uOttawa guideway sewer repairs.
Systems installation along the guideway, including OCS poles and wires.

http://www.ligneconfederationline.ca/construction/construction-update-145/

Kitchissippi · #**5256** Posted **Oct 13, 2017, 6:41 PM**

Bayview is looking nice with the landscaping and trees being put in, and a bit of the lower plaza in place. It's probably one of the only stations (aside from uOttawa) where you can partially walk through and get a real sense scale up close. The site is also active with people using the Trillium Line, so it's easy to imagine what it will feel like when the station finally opens.

McC · #**5257** Posted **Oct 13, 2017, 6:45 PM**

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porcelain panel installation

isn't that normally called "tiling"?

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Bayview is looking nice with the landscaping and trees being put in, and a bit of the lower plaza in place. It's probably one of the only stations (aside from uOttawa) where you can partially walk through and get a real sense scale up close. The site is also active with people using the Trillium Line, so it's easy to imagine what it will feel like when the station finally opens.

Did you notice that they planted a tree on top of where the tracks north to the PoW bridge are buried?