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Agree about Palmer, but maybe not about South Park. I would think that with the entertainment district that is trying to be created and the existing/planned transit, that would be the area most conducive to high rise living in all of downtown. That area, plus the financial district and the immediate adjacent. Not necessarily exclusively high rise, but majority. It's the rest of downtown that should be mostly mid-rise as that would best fit with the existing structure.

I would hope that most residential construction from the 110 fwy to Grand from Pico to 1st would be >15 stories. The rest can be mostly mid-rise with high rises mixed in.
I think the high rises should be on all of those lots around LA Live (Metropolis, Francisco Street). Anything east of Fig I'd love to see a smattering of buildings in the 300-450 foot range but also large condo complexes as well.

These are the Insignia Towers in Seattle. This is the type of high rise development that I would love to see in South Park.

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Developer Astani plans mixed-use project near downtown L.A.

by Roger Vincent

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Developer Sonny Astani has bought property on Wilshire Boulevard west of downtown Los Angeles where he plans to build a $60-million apartment and retail complex.

The six-story, 220-unit development called the Valencia will rise at the northwest corner of Wilshire and Valencia Street, Astani said. He paid Horacio Carlso Vignali $7.6 million for the 1.5-acre site now occupied by vacant commercial buildings and a parking lot.

Work on the Valencia is set to begin in April and be finished by the end of 2014. The building will have shops and restaurants on the ground floor and a swimming pool and deck on the roof, Astani said.
     
     
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Plain and simple.........all the vacant land in DTLA does not warrant hi rises economically. There has to be more in-fill and more demand. That's why I keep harping on getting more jobs DT.
Agreed. I just checked and the LA area has 23 Fortune 500 companies and I don't think that any of them are headquartered in downtown LA. Given the decades long exodus, it's almost major news when jobs start to trickle in back to downtown. That being said, the jobs tend to follow the people to some extent. When LA residents started leaving for the suburbs, the jobs eventually followed. As that trend reverses, I would expect that the jobs will return. But there's some lag. We probably won't see major announcements of jobs returning downtown (>1,000 at a time) for a few years, but I do expect that we will hear of them.
     
     
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This is the type of high rise development that I would love to see in South Park.
I agree with that!
     
     
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Developer Astani plans mixed-use project near downtown L.A.
Cool! He got paid for 8th/Grand and is reinvesting that money immediately back into downtown (adjacent)!
     
     
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Great news about Astani. That's creeping into Westlake territory.
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Great news about Astani. That's creeping into Westlake territory.
My hood welcomes new development.

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The six-story, 220-unit development called the Valencia will rise at the northwest corner of Wilshire and Valencia Street, Astani said. He paid Horacio Carlso Vignali $7.6 million for the 1.5-acre site now occupied by vacant commercial buildings and a parking lot.

It will be if things turn out where his new proj on Wilshire ends up being the one that moves forward instead of the one he originally was working on, the angelena proj next to the brockman bldg. all these locations are important in their own way....esp if one actually is in dt & noticing how all the gaps added together work against the sections that have been improved....but wilshire at valencia st is a bit less visible & important than 8th St between Grand & olive sts.

this is the location as it currently looks....not in great shape but still not as as some other properties throughout dt are....


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Some ppl are & if a new proposal doesn't involve a taller tower. But I'm guessing that one reason why we in LA get fewer highrise apt bldgs is cuz of the greater cost of construction due to earthquakes. that & some other reasons...although if owners can fill up new bldgs rather quickly, then the problem of a lack of demand or ppl's unwillingness to pay enough $$ in rent doesn't exist today as it may have several yrs ago.

I still remember the owner of the apt tower at fig & olympic saying.....around 3 yrs ago (or more?)....that his proj wouldn't pencil out if the economy at that time----around when they were completing work on it----had been the way it was when they first broke ground on their bldg. A few yrs later & the newest proj they're working on a few blocks to the east, at olympic & hill, will be a lower rise wood framed bldg. Their webpage shows the devlpt still hasn't raised all the $$ it needs to get started....& that's in spite of the proj being probably less expensive & easier to construct.


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The 1.47 acre site is located in the heart of downtown Los Angeles, on the northwest corner of West Olympic Boulevard and South Hill Street, half a mile north of I-10 and half a mile east of I-110. The Site enjoys exceptional access to the interstate system and local thoroughfares. The Site also lies within the South Park District of downtown LA. South Park is one of LA's newly popular areas, providing exceptional residential amenities and a myriad of trendy destinations. The district covers 25 square blocks and is bounded by I-110 to the west, I-10 to the south, Main Street to the East, and 8th Street to the north.

Hanover Olympic Boulevard
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as for why companies still aren't moving to dt, it's therefore even more important that other parts of the big picture are helping make up for that......

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We’re sipping glasses of the 107 proof “good stuff” in a padded booth at his Los Angeles bar Seven Grand, where Moses tells me about the lady who may have just inspired her grandson’s rise as the king of downtown nightlife — 12 bars and restaurants and counting.

There’s The Varnish, which he opened three and a half years ago in the back of Cole’s French Dip — an L.A. relic known mostly for inventing a mediocre sandwich. But Moses saw potential, and an unused stockroom in the restaurant’s rear, which he transformed into a destination cocktail lounge serving classics like the bramble and gin fizz to a crowd of industry and Hollywood stars. The rest of Los Angeles seemed to follow, and this year The Varnish won Best American Cocktail Bar at Tales of the Cocktail. The honor is more Oscar than People's Choice in the nighlife world. And of course, there was a speech.

“Seven years ago I came out here and everybody was laughing about the bars in L.A.," he said while accepting the award from the stage in New Orleans. And, indeed, times have changed downtown, where Moses’ outlook has been slightly bullish. Under his 213 Nightlife umbrella, he’s opened or taken over an authentic Irish pub (Casey’s), 300-bottle whiskey bar (Seven Grand), a well-polished neighborhood tap (Golden Gopher) and a rum bar whose entrance is only found after walking through a parking garage (Caña Rum Bar). This goes along with an estimated 40+ buildings and leases he owns in the surrounding neighborhood.

You have embraced downtown Los Angeles with great vigor, and investment. It’s similar to what Drew Nieporent did with Tribeca. Why is this such a great place to open bars?

Starting in the late '90s I had a vision to build 10 bars down here. It was a clean slate — there was a ton of real estate with a ton of character that was available to build bars and restaurants, and I felt that downtown was about to make a huge turn towards the perfect demographic to go to bars. All of the places that I opened already had character and history. Any place that has four dry walls around it has no soul or character — and is bound to fail.

What is the residential scene like now?

People wanted to move downtown for the last 20 or 30 years but they couldn’t because the zoning on all of these buildings didn’t allow them to be turned residential. As soon as they passed the Adaptive Reuse Ordinance, I left my former career [as a financial manager] and invested everything in downtown.

These were basically shitholes when you took them over, no?

People thought I was crazy to open even one place here. People thought I was out of my mind to give up a multi-million dollar per year Wall Street career to build 10 bars on Skid Row. Those same people on Wall Street who told me I was crazy lost their jobs in the next six or seven years [laughs].

Look now look at all these places down here. There’s The Parish… The owners are all friends of mine. A lot of them are people that worked for me at one time and I have encouraged them to come down here. I talked Bottega Louie into coming in, Mo-Chica into coming in.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 17, 2012, 3:47 AM
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Back in April I was hearing on this thread that the One Santa Fe project was about to break ground. However, ever since then I never really heard anything. Has it been in development for months or has it yet to break ground?
     
     
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Back in April I was hearing on this thread that the One Santa Fe project was about to break ground. However, ever since then I never really heard anything. Has it been in development for months or has it yet to break ground?
the project is well underway and on time and is starting to come above ground now.

also, i spoke to a security guard at wilshire grand on friday (perhaps the same guy that one of the other posters spoke to) and he said that they will be starting the asbestos removal on monday
     
     
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also, i spoke to a security guard at wilshire grand on friday (perhaps the same guy that one of the other posters spoke to) and he said that they will be starting the asbestos removal on monday
Where is this notorious security guard?! Each time I drive by the site, I don't see a soul.
     
     
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Agreed. I just checked and the LA area has 23 Fortune 500 companies and I don't think that any of them are headquartered in downtown LA. Given the decades long exodus, it's almost major news when jobs start to trickle in back to downtown. That being said, the jobs tend to follow the people to some extent. When LA residents started leaving for the suburbs, the jobs eventually followed. As that trend reverses, I would expect that the jobs will return. But there's some lag. We probably won't see major announcements of jobs returning downtown (>1,000 at a time) for a few years, but I do expect that we will hear of them.
Aecom, Reliance Steel & Aluminum, and Live Nation are all headquartered downtown.


And nice that Astani is planning a new project! And of course Citywatch would find something to complain about with said new project. Anyways, Astani has always had good taste in architecture, so excited to see the renders for this one.
     
     
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The Next Downtown Apartment Boom
Tight Market Leads to a Wave of Activity, With at Least 10 Buildings and Nearly 2,400 Units Slated to Start Construction by Next Year

Posted: Monday, September 10, 2012 6:00 am | Updated: 12:40 pm, Mon Sep 10, 2012.

by Ryan Vaillancourt
DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES - Historic Core apartment king Barry Shy has been sitting on big plans for a new tower at Sixth and Main streets ever since he bought the site for $30 million in 2006. Now, he’s eyeing an April groundbreaking on a 40-story, 350-unit complex dubbed SB Omega.

Shy’s plan calls for 35 levels of apartments above a five-story, 1,200-space parking facility. The structure would stand more than twice as tall as most Historic Core buildings.

“The rental market, it’s amazing,” said Shy, who already owns some 1,200 apartments in five Downtown buildings. “I have no vacancy and the rent keeps going up.”

http://www.ladowntownnews.com/news/the-n...4a95458-f943-11e1-8666-0019bb2963f4.html


I found this article from a link on the twitter feed of theatlanticcities.com ...which is a rather fantastic website. This article provides a really positive outlook on further development downtown and contains a lot of info. Cheers
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Aecom, Reliance Steel & Aluminum, and Live Nation are all headquartered downtown.


And nice that Astani is planning a new project! And of course Citywatch would find something to complain about with said new project. Anyways, Astani has always had good taste in architecture, so excited to see the renders for this one.
"the current building is tourists won't like downtown because of all the parking lots"



Great news, though! I always knew that, even though Downtown proper has alot of room to grow, that the whole Wilshire corridor would gradually fill up, and evolve into something much more respectable. Really, the portion east of Alvarado has a ton of potential. The city should offer density bonuses or reduced parking requirements for building along this stretch; something to really incentivize and jump-start development. I hope that this building is the start of that potential being realized.
     
     
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I hate to burst your bubble Illithid, but expect a stucco-clad structure not unlike Astani's 6-story Vero a block to the east.

This will be a great addition to the neighborhood, regardless. The sooner City West gentrifies, the sooner Westlake will. And City West is gentrifying rather quickly.
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I hate to burst your bubble Illithid, but expect a stucco-clad structure not unlike Astani's 6-story Vero a block to the east.

This will be a great addition to the neighborhood, regardless. The sooner City West gentrifies, the sooner Westlake will. And City West is gentrifying rather quickly.
What's wrong with Vero?

And I agree that City West is very quickly turning into a quaint little neighborhood. 1111 Wilshire is going to help add to that. I've been saying this for years but City West has loads of potential. I'd love to see a large apartment complex on that huge lot on 6th and Bixel. And all that mess between Wilshire, 7th, Lucas, and Bixel (with Ingram running in the middle) needs to be looked at. Ingram could be this cool promenade type thing with cafes and places hipsters like.
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Trammell Crow to build 'clean-tech' complex in downtown L.A.

Trammell Crow to build 'clean-tech' complex in downtown L.A.
Developer Trammell Crow will begin work on the $40-million CleanTech Manufacturing Center at 2425 E. Washington Blvd. on hopes of attracting tenants.

By Roger Vincent
Los Angeles Times
September 16, 2012

"A downtown Los Angeles site where Crown Coach school buses were once manufactured has been acquired for $15.4 million by high-profile developer Trammell Crow Co., which plans to build an industrial park.

The CleanTech Manufacturing Center, three large buildings on 20 acres, will be developed on speculation, said Bradley Cox, senior managing director of Trammell Crow's Los Angeles office. That means work will begin on the $40-million complex even though no tenants have yet agreed to rent space there..."

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-property-report-20120917,0,910691.story
     
     
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LA has snagged another convention according to the Times. Its a gaming developers convention thats coming to LA for 3 years starting in 2013 and is supposed to bring with it at least 5500 hotel stays and millions of dollars a year. Thats 24 conventions for next year, the highest since 2001 and LA Live and the downtown resurgence was a huge key according to a survey of the convention goers
     
     
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LADreamin......DTLA has at least a square mile of vacant land. If they built only hi rises right now, buildout would take a century. For now I think mid rises may be the way to go......giving DT some needed infill. When DT becomes more popular and we start to see corps relocate to DT, then hi rises may be more appropriate.
ohhhhhh ok i think i get it now -__-'' haha.. makes sense..well this is awkward now i feel like an idiot lol
     
     
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