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Old Posted Jul 10, 2009, 4:52 PM
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Yes, stairs D E F and G run from below grade to the second floor,as does stair C within the core. On the second floor the four stairs connect to the core stairs A & B. Stair C is for Fire and Rescue personnel only.
Zen i understand what you mean and can clearly see it in the photos aswell so thank you for the info
     
     
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For me I get a kick mostly from seeing things like the plaza take shape.
Yeah, because in a sense, for the first time we are seeing things as they will actually be. In the future, when you're crossing that plaza, you'll remember when you first saw it taking shape.
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NY Guy.... a couple of the best pictures yet. Thanks.

I noticed today that the steel staging structure over what is to become Fulton St., is now being dismantled, now that the newly poured concrete around the "tree fountain" has quickly been used for storage.
     
     
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The proximity of the RR tracks to the south tower footprint is interesting. I hope they are able to build enough of a buffer so that you don't hear the low rumbling of the trains passing from the memorial.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 11, 2009, 8:36 PM
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NY Guy.... a couple of the best pictures yet. Thanks.

I noticed today that the steel staging structure over what is to become Fulton St., is now being dismantled, now that the newly poured concrete around the "tree fountain" has quickly been used for storage.
Wonder if the Fulton St side will also be used as a staging area....
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Wonder if the Fulton St side will also be used as a staging area....
It most certainly well be. Space is one thing the WTC site has not nearly enough of.

The steel removed from above the Fulton St. corridor was temporary support for the slab. Once the cement had cured it was no longer needed. If you look at some of the pics on WTC. com you can see the hanger rods. (rough guess on the cost, about $3,800 per ton of temp steel x 12tons)

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Something that has been bothering me for a few days, the forum header quotes the roof height as 1,368 feet, the top of the parapet is 1,368 feet. The roof well be 1,334 feet 8 inches, there are also just 86 full floors, not 108. If the admens. need proof I can provide photos of the prints (provided the pics do not include sensitive info).

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http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7355&d=1246590837

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7358&d=1246591174

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Something that has been bothering me for a few days, the forum header quotes the roof height as 1,368 feet, the top of the parapet is 1,368 feet. The roof well be 1,334 feet 8 inches, there are also just 86 full floors, not 108. If the admens. need proof I can provide photos of the prints (provided the pics do not include sensitive info).

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http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7355&d=1246590837

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7358&d=1246591174
Zensteeldude, I know you have the prints, so is there any chance of an outdoor observation deck? And if not is the last floor (1334' 8") the observation deck?
     
     
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Well if you want a good look at what is going on underneath this part of the complex I would advise everyone who can the ride the PATH. I did just that yesterday and literally spent 15 minutes just watching the underground areas taking shape. The concourse is going to be quite extensive from what I saw, and the WFC tunnel is just massive. It was worth me missing my train and having to wait for the next one.
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^ take photos next time!
Will do. It was my first time on the PATH, so I didn't know what to expect, but I know now for next time.
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Zensteeldude, I know you have the prints, so is there any chance of an outdoor observation deck? And if not is the last floor (1334' 8") the observation deck?
With the way the window washing cranes are configured and the 3 comunications rings I see no chance of an open air observation deck on top.

Even if it were possible to put one above the comunications rings the building would need major redesign to get people up to it.

The observation deck is on the 102nd floor 1,266' 8" above the Lobby floor.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 12, 2009, 10:12 PM
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Something that has been bothering me for a few days, the forum header quotes the roof height as 1,368 feet, the top of the parapet is 1,368 feet. The roof well be 1,334 feet 8 inches, there are also just 86 full floors, not 108.
The top of the parapet is the roof height. Also, the 108 is not the actualy count of floors, but what they are calling the top floors, though I think it's at 102 now.
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I cannot wait until my visit starting 9/9/09. I like the progress and the delays only frustrate me slightly. It will really start moving soon.
     
     
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You people are all forgetting that the communications element is gone! GONE!!! Also that design changes can be made VERY quickly with the computer technology that is going into the design. NYGUY posted something about that a while back. I wouldn't at all be suprised if the restaurant and the observatory are both to be bumped up in height.
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With the way the window washing cranes are configured and the 3 comunications rings I see no chance of an open air observation deck on top.

Even if it were possible to put one above the comunications rings the building would need major redesign to get people up to it.

The observation deck is on the 102nd floor 1,266' 8" above the Lobby floor.
Well. That's really low and sucks a lot.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 13, 2009, 2:34 PM
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The top of the parapet is the roof height. Also, the 108 is not the actualy count of floors, but what they are calling the top floors, though I think it's at 102 now.
I have no idea where they got the 108 floors from. The floors are not numbered consecutively and the top numbered floor is 105 witch happens to be the roof (it's also the height of the original Tower Two).

The top of the parapet is 34' above the roof and is there to hide the cooling towers, window washing track etc( the top of the parapet is also the hight of the first Tower One).

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