SAN FRANCISCO | Projects: Under Construction, Approved, and Proposed - Page 256

simms3_redux · #**5101** Posted **Sep 25, 2013, 4:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by POLA

Fair points, but I was talking about a the Trinity project, which sits on top of a muni underground and a BART stop, not to mention numerous bus lines and a trolly car. Also, Market street provides a one of the city's most used bike routes, contains thousands of taxi-cabs, pedi-cabs, and ubers. The "google" bus and the "apple bus" have stops blocks away, and you are within a 15 minute walk of the financial district. I think this corner has viable transit. Could it stand to be improved? Are some other parts of the city underserved? Sure. But that wasn't my point.

I agree with you. Yes in many parts of the city transit needs to be added outright, or improved, before people with the means choose not to own/park a car. But this is not one of those parts, LoL. I'm happy it will be completely underground and hidden (NEMA is also offering 1 spot per unit, and the Trinity Garage will end up being around that same ratio, maybe a little less).

However, it's promising to know just about every other development planned around there includes no or very limited parking. And there are lots of proposals and plans for mid-rises and adaptive re-use/rehabs into multifamily. Not to mention the new projects nearby in the TL are virtually carless. I think generally SF is going in right direction on the private sector, it's just time for the agencies to step up improvements/expansions on the public side.

LWR · #**5102** Posted **Sep 25, 2013, 5:10 AM**

I agree, but also, what about those of "greater means" who are older and cannot walk that distance? Just wondering... ??? Any of us may belong to that group given enough time. Even those who are no longer able to ride a "cycle".

minesweeper · #**5103** Posted **Sep 25, 2013, 5:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by POLA

Trinity plans to use capital from the lease up of phase 2 to pay for phase 3, which means, don't expect to see any new buildings at this barren corner anytime soon. However, that big pit is probably the beginning of an underground parking garage that Trinity is proud to call "the largest underground parking lot in San Francisco." Ugh...

Speaking of Trinity Phase 2, here's how leasing is going, according to J.K. Dineen:

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At 1190 Mission St., phase two of Trinity Properties 1,800-unit Central Market Street development, renters have leased about 250 units, 60 percent of the 418-unit tower.

“We have definitely beat our expectations,” said Rob Sullivan, director of operations at the Trinity development.

The studios and the two bedrooms rented fastest at Trinity, leaving about 12 one-bedrooms and the rest junior one-bedrooms.

And updates on a few other high profile new developments:

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Two blocks west at 1401 Market St., Crescent Heights is 72 percent leased in its first phase — all but 90 apartments of the 24-story, 317-unit south tower have been reserved. In the inner Mission District, Vara, the 194-unit project at 1880 Mission St., is 70 percent leased.

Further west at 1844 Market St., MacFarlane Partners has started leasing its 113-unit project called Venn. So far 25 of the units have been leased in the development, which will open in November.

BushMan · #**5104** Posted **Sep 25, 2013, 6:28 AM**

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Originally Posted by simms3_redux

I agree with you. Yes in many parts of the city transit needs to be added outright, or improved, before people with the means choose not to own/park a car. But this is not one of those parts, LoL. I'm happy it will be completely underground and hidden (NEMA is also offering 1 spot per unit, and the Trinity Garage will end up being around that same ratio, maybe a little less).

However, it's promising to know just about every other development planned around there includes no or very limited parking. And there are lots of proposals and plans for mid-rises and adaptive re-use/rehabs into multifamily. Not to mention the new projects nearby in the TL are virtually carless. I think generally SF is going in right direction on the private sector, it's just time for the agencies to step up improvements/expansions on the public side.

Good points Simms and Pola. While I agree that the Trinity Place location is about as good as it gets for SF transit it still leaves a LOT to be desired. Yes, the lines are there but in terms of frequency, reliability, comfort and safety- not so good.

I'm sure we've all had the experience of waiting forever for a Muni bus that never arrives, then standing by as the next one comes but doesn't even stop because it's too full. The F-Line is neat but really more of a novelty and jammed with tourists much of the time. Bart is decent but won't be any help to those trying to get to work during the strike next month. And in spite of the fact that the area is rapidly improving, (thank God), 8th and Market is an EXTREMELY unpleasant (often downright unsafe) place to wait for a bus, especially after dark.

cwilly · #**5105** Posted **Sep 25, 2013, 6:41 PM**

FYI - Google updated their satelite view for San Francisco in Google Maps so the view is much more current and shows a lot of the projects discussed on this forum.

minesweeper · #**5106** Posted **Sep 26, 2013, 2:48 AM**

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Originally Posted by cwilly

FYI - Google updated their satelite view for San Francisco in Google Maps so the view is much more current and shows a lot of the projects discussed on this forum.

Cool, lots of recent projects are visible. They probably captured the images over a period of time, but it matches up closest to the April 2013 time frame. 45 Lansing looks like it's just starting to move dirt around, which matches this photo, and the America's Cup concert stage at Pier 27 is under construction (first concert was end of May).

fimiak · #**5107** Posted **Sep 26, 2013, 5:34 PM**

Also it looks to me like Transbay Block 6 is getting prepped beginning today.

mt_climber13 · #**5108** Posted **Sep 28, 2013, 4:56 AM**

I love this Market and Buchanan project. Saitowicz is one of my favorite architects.

And 55 9th St... in context:

cv94117 · #**5109** Posted **Sep 28, 2013, 5:48 AM**

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Originally Posted by wakamesalad

I love this Market and Buchanan project. Saitowicz is one of my favorite architects.

Except this is not SSaitowitz.

fimiak · #**5110** Posted **Sep 28, 2013, 7:06 AM**

Saitowitz is nothing compared to Zaha Hadid

Hopefully her firm can bring something to SF in the next decade...

mt_climber13 · #**5111** Posted **Sep 28, 2013, 3:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by cv94117

Except this is not SSaitowitz.

Oh, my bad! I got it confused with 8 Octavia. Well this architect is awesome too!

minesweeper · #**5112** Posted **Sep 28, 2013, 5:42 PM**

I noticed this week that an apartment building was being demolished on the 1400 block of Divisadero at O'Farrell. I haven't seen anything written about it, so I looked it up, and it appears to be part of the final phase of a major Kaiser expansion project first approved waaaaaay back in 1997. Here's an ancient PDF that describes the project.

The apartment building had 21 units of low income housing, which have since been replaced by a new building at 2139 O'Farrell that started construction in 2009. The demolition of the vacant old building was first mentioned in 2006, but delayed seven years for some reason. Here's the project description from 2008:

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The applicant proposes to demolish the exising three ‐ story, mixed ‐ use building on Lot 9, merge Lot 9 with Lot 38, and construct a new five ‐ story (as measured from O’Farrell Street), 75,000 gross square feet outpatient clinic and medical office building for Kaiser Permanente. The project will consist 23,000 square feet of clinic space, 21,000 square feet of circulation, 10,500 square feet of medical office space, 17,000 square feet of mechanical / building services space, and 3,000 square feet of retail space.

I don't see permits for new construction, so they may just be demolishing the old building for now, but hopefully this means we'll have another construction project underway soon.

viewguysf · #**5113** Posted **Sep 28, 2013, 8:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by minesweeper

I noticed this week that an apartment building was being demolished on the 1400 block of Divisadero at O'Farrell. I haven't seen anything written about it, so I looked it up, and it appears to be part of the final phase of a major Kaiser expansion project first approved waaaaaay back in 1997. The apartment building had 21 units of low income housing, which have since been replaced...

That building has been in wretched condition for a long time (even though they repainted it once, including its boarded up windows), so I'm really glad to see it finally go! If I remember correctly, Kaiser was going to build a 10 story building on the site. Another plus would be to see all of the "temporary" trailers disappear from that area. The whole southwest corner of Geary and Divisadero has been unsightly for years.

jbm · #**5114** Posted **Sep 28, 2013, 10:11 PM**

i walked by a couple of smaller projects that get lost in the shuffle. at 15th and south van ness the frame of the building may be complete. it is completely wrapped and with scaffolding all around, so its hard to tell. A block away, on mission and 15th (across the st. from Vara) it looks like work is underway on what I believe is a conversion from commercial to residential building.

fflint · #**5115** Posted **Sep 29, 2013, 1:25 AM**

Arquitectonica--by far one of the best in the business--designed Linea.

Saitowitz is a pretty good architect, though, and the renderings for 8 Octavia are pretty slick.

timbad · #**5116** Posted **Sep 29, 2013, 9:51 AM**

speaking of Linea, here is an angle we haven't seen much, looking south down Buchanan:

a reminder that just up the street from here is the 55 Laguna project (which is actually two entire blocks between Laguna and Buchanan, sort of tucked away between Linea and Venn, not very visible from Market but should have quite an impact on the neighborhood. bridging Octavia/Hayes Valley and Lower Haight). a token shot of the demo going on there:

jumping back over to 38 Dolores, here is what I think will be the best part of the project: improved pedestrian experience along Dolores! bad lighting, but you can basically see where it's going. looking south: