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Old Posted Jul 16, 2017, 9:01 PM
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Who is going to cough up several billion $ to do that?
Buried electrical is century old technology that eastern Europe managed to accomplish in the 1950s. Torontonians are just used to it so think it's normal or a luxury. It is neither.
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2017, 12:07 AM
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Yay .. isaidso with his rudimentary but condescending two cents. He ignores to address the decision made a hundred years ago to string an overhead grid over the main streets and that it has functioned ever since. The astronomical costs to bury functional infrastructure after the fact has always been a cosmetic decision. It's not the same for the places in Europe that made the same decision as Toronto to string overhead lines along streets and not underground or hidden from view (ex. Vancouver's alleys). They had no choice but to rebuild in the 1950s if they wanted power.

Then again it's isaidso. Cost means nothing.
     
     
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I totally get what you are saying with Toronto but an important caveat must be added that all of downtown major streets require overhead wires for their streetcar systems. Melbourne and many other streetcar cities have the same issue as does Vancouver due to it's bus trollyes.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2017, 8:26 AM
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Oh dear, why do I pine so for Berlin when it has such a substandard skyline?

Can it be because I don't confuse internet skyline photos with an interesting city?

I should probably go to ______ instead of Berlin: _______ has a much better skyline!

Or..

Can you guys recommend a tinfoil construction helmet that can make me appreciate the awesomeness of internet skyline photos? - without having to actually go to the boring city associated with the skyline photos?

Can I just head to the outskirts, take a picture of the skyline, avoid the boring city?

I would hate to confuse a great skyline with an interesting city, as I did with Houston.

It sucks when you go to a city with a 'great skyline' and that city ends up being a boring piece of shit.

Sidewalks rolled up after..

But at least you can look at the skyline - if you drive back to a skyline viewable spot.

This boring city/ 'great' skyline thingy has me so confused..

Do people actually yearn for cities based on internet skyline photos or do they yearn based on other, less sophisticated reasons? (Skylines, urban canyons being top of the heap as far as fascinating cities are concerned).

It's all so confusing..

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Old Posted Jul 17, 2017, 1:32 PM
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Is it just possible to be a fan of skylines but also understand their superficiality when it comes to the urban experience of a city? Naw ... what am I thinking. Why did you even open this thread? There's plenty of threads I don't open as the defensive posturing is even too much for me.
     
     
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What do you mean not designed to be a tourist city? And no offense but Toronto has nothing to learn from Ottawa. If the rest of Canada would let Toronto keep more then 4% of the taxes we generate maybe we could do things like bury our wires or build more subways.
Very few cities are designed to be tourist cities anyway. Maybe places like Las Vegas and Orlando? Canada doesn't have any - no large ones anyway.
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Ottawa as the capital should be held to a higher standard for streetscaping and maintenance. I remember when I lived there The Feds contributing to the much need rehabbing of the capital area about 15 years ago but, it doesn't look like that has been expanded upon or even maintained. The granite sidewalks were holding up quite well but the asphalt by Elgin was in appalling condition.
     
     
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^^^ Agreed.

Toronto, as the capital of Ontario, should be held to a higher standard too...
     
     
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Ottawa is kind of like a movie set. There's that NCC circle formed by Wellington St., Laurier St. in Gatineau and then Mackenzie/Sussex plus Confederation square. That looks suitably grand for TV.

You go one block away, though, and it looks like a standard Canadian mid-sized city.

That's okay, though. Ottawa is, at best, the fourth most important city in a medium-sized country. It's also a metro of just over a million on a continent where similar-sized cities tend to be pretty middling (big exception: New Orleans).

There's also some "grandeur" in the form of scenic, manicured parkways and drives in the suburbs, which was the 20th century response to creating a showcase capital.
     
     
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Ottawa is kind of like a movie set. There's that NCC circle formed by Wellington St., Laurier St. in Gatineau and then Mackenzie/Sussex plus Confederation square. That looks suitably grand for TV.

You go one block away, though, and it looks like a standard Canadian mid-sized city.

That's okay, though. Ottawa is, at best, the fourth most important city in a medium-sized country. It's also a metro of just over a million on a continent where similar-sized cities tend to be pretty middling (big exception: New Orleans).

There's also some "grandeur" in the form of scenic, manicured parkways and drives in the suburbs, which was the 20th century response to creating a showcase capital.
"Town vs Crown" - the story of Ottawa. "Crown" is beautiful and sometimes spectacular. "Town", imho, tends to punch at or below its weight.
     
     
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A few snaps of the skyline coming in to Horseshoe Bay a few days ago.



the bay 6 by Andrew Rochfort, on Flickr



the bay 3 by Andrew Rochfort, on Flickr



the bay 5 by Andrew Rochfort, on Flickr



the bay 2 by Andrew Rochfort, on Flickr
     
     
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Ottawa is kind of like a movie set. There's that NCC circle formed by Wellington St., Laurier St. in Gatineau and then Mackenzie/Sussex plus Confederation square. That looks suitably grand for TV.

You go one block away, though, and it looks like a standard Canadian mid-sized city.

That's okay, though. Ottawa is, at best, the fourth most important city in a medium-sized country. It's also a metro of just over a million on a continent where similar-sized cities tend to be pretty middling (big exception: New Orleans).

There's also some "grandeur" in the form of scenic, manicured parkways and drives in the suburbs, which was the 20th century response to creating a showcase capital.
Not sure how it will be received on here, but beyond the respective "parliamentaty precincts" (where Ottawa wins), among Canadian capitals I find Quebec City arguably as much or even more capital-esque grandeur as Ottawa does.

In both cases it's admittedly a work in progress, but even on that front there seems to be more work going on in Quebec City than in Ottawa. (Unless people want to count LRT as capital-esque grandeur.)
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Not sure how it will be received on here, but beyond the respective "parliamentaty precincts" (where Ottawa wins), among Canadian capitals I find Quebec City arguably as much or even more capital-esque grandeur as Ottawa does.

In both cases it's admittedly a work in progress, but even on that front there seems to be more work going on in Quebec City than in Ottawa. (Unless people want to count LRT as capital-esque grandeur.)
Quebec City - "town" wins (if we stick to the core)
Ottawa - advantage "Crown".
     
     
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