NHL season 2017/2018

[suburbanite]

These slashing calls are driving me crazy. No one should lose a game for a play like this, regardless of a freak finger injury last year.

[Denscity]

Vancouver takes out LA in LA after going down 2-0. And scores 2 power play goals against the best penalty kill in the NHL.

[Calgarian]

Originally Posted by suburbanite

These slashing calls are driving me crazy. No one should lose a game for a play like this, regardless of a freak finger injury last year.

Bullshit, the league needs to protect players, there's no need to hit someone's gloves with your stick. Good penalty and players will adapt.

[suburbanite]

Cool, the play I linked had no contact to the hands and was about as malicious as a fist bump at the end of a game.

Might as well ban contact with another player's foot along the boards after Karlsson's achilles injury as well.

[Calgarian]

Originally Posted by suburbanite

Cool, the play I linked had no contact to the hands and was about as malicious as a fist bump at the end of a game.

Yes there was, he even put his stick up near his hands a second time. Sloppy play and that's the way they call it now.

Might as well ban contact with another player's foot along the boards after Karlsson's achilles injury as well.

Don't be ridiculous, if players were trying to do that intentionally, then there would be a rule change. The slashes to the hands came about as a result of slower players unable to catch faster players and resorting to whacking them on the hands which was causing broken bones.

[suburbanite]

Players aren't intentionally trying to pin the opposing player's leg to the boards? That's the entire point and the reason that Kevlar socks were implemented.

You're going to distinguish an attempt to disrupt the play as a result of being unskilled vs. it being a valid hockey play? Not to mention the semantics involved in that being the line in the sand that rules are created around.

[Calgarian]

Originally Posted by suburbanite

Players aren't intentionally trying to pin the opposing player's leg to the boards? That's the entire point and the reason that Kevlar socks were implemented.

You're going to distinguish an attempt to disrupt the play as a result of being unskilled vs. it being a valid hockey play? Not to mention the semantics involved in that being the line in the sand that rules are created around.

Are you for real guy? there's a difference between playing physical and slashing a guys fucking hand! playing a guy tough on the boards is a normal hockey play, slashing a guy in the hands because you can't catch him is just dirty. The call you are whining about is 100% legit, Karlsson's injury was more of a freak incident, but if it became more of a targeted move by the other player, then they would do something about it. The league said they were going to crack down on slashes to the hands and that's what they are doing, players know this and if they get caught doing it, that's 100% their fault.

[logan5]

Even with the new rules that was an extremely light slash. Thats not a penalty otherwise we would be seeing 20 power plays a game.

[suburbanite]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

Are you for real guy? there's a difference between playing physical and slashing a guys fucking hand! playing a guy tough on the boards is a normal hockey play, slashing a guy in the hands because you can't catch him is just dirty. The call you are whining about is 100% legit, Karlsson's injury was more of a freak incident, but if it became more of a targeted move by the other player, then they would do something about it. The league said they were going to crack down on slashes to the hands and that's what they are doing, players know this and if they get caught doing it, that's 100% their fault.

There is a difference between playing physical and slashing a players hand. What I've been trying to describe is that I don't classify what Boeser did as a slash to the hand. Apologies if I don't think that the difference between clean and dirty is as black and white as contact vs. no contact. This isn't the NBA, and some degree of discretion will always be required by the referees to determine what crosses the line. I think a good place to start is the distinction between upward and downward motion. It's very hard to deliver bone-breaking force moving the stick upwards from the ice like in this play.

What Crosby did to Methot? Illegal. What Boeser did in this play? to me? should not be illegal.

[Calgarian]

What it all comes down to is that there is absolutely no reason for your stick to make contact with another players hand, there should be no reason for your stick to even be near another players hands.

[WhipperSnapper]

That hints that players shouldn't be raising their sticks off the ice surface at all and any contact with blade on glove/body is a slashing offense.

[suburbanite]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

What it all comes down to is that there is absolutely no reason for your stick to make contact with another players hand, there should be no reason for your stick to even be near another players hands.

I disagree. It's pretty easy for incidental contact on the hands as the result a stick-lift. I've done it and been on the receiving end many times and have never felt my safety was threatened. That's why I'm a proponent of some discretion regarding the motion of the stick.

Either way, I think we've exhausted this issue and can move on to more productive things.

[Calgarian]

Originally Posted by suburbanite

I disagree. It's pretty easy for incidental contact on the hands as the result a stick-lift. I've done it and been on the receiving end many times and have never felt my safety was threatened. That's why I'm a proponent of some discretion regarding the motion of the stick.

Either way, I think we've exhausted this issue and can move on to more productive things.

He wasn't in a position to lift his stick though, he was behind him and swung his stick in a sideways motion, twice. It wasn't enough to hurt the guy obviously, but was a dumb and useless play and Boeser should have known better. But yeah, lets move on, nothing left to say on the topic.

Flames are in Detroit tonight, Lack gets the start as Smith is out tonight with an upper body injury. Lack played good in relief of Smith on Monday, hopefully he gets some confidence and the team stays on a roll!

[You Need A Thneed]

That call probably shouldn’t have been made on Boeser, but there is a simple way to make sure you don’t get called or that - don’t try to tap the guys hands at all.

Sure, Boeser didn’t really hit at all - but he did attempt to tap the stick/ hand area. He was trying to walk on the line, and when you do, sometimes you will get calls against you that weren’t deserved.

[suburbanite]

Originally Posted by You Need A Thneed

That call probably shouldn’t have been made on Boeser, but there is a simple way to make sure you don’t get called or that - don’t try to tap the guys hands at all.

Sure, Boeser didn’t really hit at all - but he did attempt to tap the stick/ hand area. He was trying to walk on the line, and when you do, sometimes you will get calls against you that weren’t deserved.

I never disagreed with the ref calling it. With how the rules currently are set up, it's a penalty. I don't think it should be a rule.

More importantly. Dubnyk has made 103 consecutive saves for three shutouts in a row. Also the only goalie to have multiple such streaks other then Luongo and Elliot. Pretty impressive, yet somehow Minnesota will still manage to disappoint in the early rounds of the playoffs.

[Hardhatdan]

Originally Posted by suburbanite

I never disagreed with the ref calling it. With how the rules currently are set up, it's a penalty. I don't think it should be a rule.

More importantly. Dubnyk has made 103 consecutive saves for three shutouts in a row. Also the only goalie to have multiple such streaks other then Luongo and Elliot. Pretty impressive, yet somehow Minnesota will still manage to disappoint in the early rounds of the playoffs.

That Dubnyk is a bum, run him out of town!
- Oilers

Whoops...

[Calgarian]

Originally Posted by Hardhatdan

That Dubnyk is a bum, run him out of town!
- Oilers

Whoops...

Who was the Oilers goalie coach When Dubnyk was there? and more importantly, is he still there?

[Denscity]

Calgary gettin smoked 6-2 in Detroit right now. Was hoping for better hockey entertainment tonight. Maybe Boston Anaheim will be better gonna watch both.

[Jaws]

7-2.

Edit 8-2

[Coldrsx]

That last 24hrs has been fun.