[Halifax] The Sister Sites | 2X29 m | 2X9 floors | Completed - Page 25

someone123 · #**481** Posted **Feb 18, 2015, 4:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by worldlyhaligonian

How much space would there be if this is built? http://tealarchitects.com/project/54...g-garden-road/ (thank-you to Jonovision)

Something like 15XX barrington would be a nice fit / step down.

The addition is only going to be something like 20 feet onto the back of the building. Presumably it goes up to the lot line and would be about as far back as the building next door.

I think that project would make this corner more appealing too since there wouldn't be any significant gaps in the street wall. It would be nice if they took it a step further and added a third floor to the building.

Jonovision · #**482** Posted **Feb 21, 2015, 3:54 PM**

Heard the other day that Dalhousie has acquired the 3rd sister site behind the library and will partner with a developer to build a mixed use building.

In the meantime glazing has already started on the ground level of the 1st building.

Keith P. · #**483** Posted **Feb 21, 2015, 7:03 PM**

Why is Dalhousie in the property development business?

Was this site advertised and a call for proposals issued?

Many questions...

gohaligo · #**484** Posted **Feb 21, 2015, 8:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by Keith P.

Why is Dalhousie in the property development business?

Was this site advertised and a call for proposals issued?

Many questions...

I suspect it was in some sort of trade for the new library site. I seem to recall that Dalhousie managed the parking lot on that site.

Keith P. · #**485** Posted **Feb 21, 2015, 9:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by gohaligo

I suspect it was in some sort of trade for the new library site. I seem to recall that Dalhousie managed the parking lot on that site.

No, that was not part of the deal as I recall it.

someone123 · #**486** Posted **Feb 22, 2015, 12:33 AM**

Dalhousie was already planning to build an academic building (IDEA building) behind the Medjuck building. I wonder if that is still going to move forward or if the plans have changed to incorporate this new site.

It makes sense for Dalhousie to want to be able to expand the Sexton campus but as far as the city is concerned I would rather see all of the empty former infirmary lands developed all the way back to Morris Street sooner rather than later, whether it's with Dalhousie buildings, residential, or whatever else.

hokus83 · #**487** Posted **Feb 22, 2015, 2:09 AM**

[QUOTE=someone123;6924181
It makes sense for Dalhousie to want to be able to expand the Sexton campus but as far as the city is concerned I would rather see all of the empty former infirmary lands developed all the way back to Morris Street sooner rather than later, whether it's with Dalhousie buildings, residential, or whatever else.[/QUOTE]

In full agreement thats the most important thing for Queen street.

alps · #**488** Posted **Mar 6, 2015, 6:27 AM**

(Photo source: Dalhousie University School of Architecture facebook page)

JET · #**489** Posted **Mar 6, 2015, 1:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by Keith P.

Why is Dalhousie in the property development business?

Was this site advertised and a call for proposals issued?

Many questions...

Makes sense for Dal to build things that make money, rather than just cost a lot of money

Keith P. · #**490** Posted **Mar 6, 2015, 1:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by JET

Makes sense for Dal to build things that make money, rather than just cost a lot of money

That's why we have a private sector.

Dal uses public money to compete against private businesses. Not Good.

JET · #**491** Posted **Mar 6, 2015, 5:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by Keith P.

That's why we have a private sector.

Dal uses public money to compete against private businesses. Not Good.

It's also why affordable university education is such a mess. Too many great buildings, and fewer students that can afford to attend there.

TheNovaScotian · #**492** Posted **Mar 7, 2015, 8:38 PM**

In the "Bold Ambitions" presentation, the rest of the infirmary lands owned by Dal was decided to be sodded in.

They're turning it into a "quad" for the sexton campus

worldlyhaligonian · #**493** Posted **Mar 7, 2015, 8:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by TheNovaScotian

In the "Bold Ambitions" presentation, the rest of the infirmary lands owned by Dal was decided to be sodded in.

They're turning it into a "quad" for the sexton campus

Wait... the city gave them the land?

Also... isn't it currently a huge parking lot?

Jonovision · #**494** Posted **Apr 9, 2015, 10:03 PM**

counterfactual · #**495** Posted **Apr 9, 2015, 10:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Keith P.

That's why we have a private sector.

Dal uses public money to compete against private businesses. Not Good.

Because the private sector isn't at all subsidized by public money. Except for Tax credits, tax deductions, payroll coverage, payroll deductions, universal healthcare, water/drainage costs to new land development in the sprawl burbs. I could go on.

Dal bought land years ago, wisely thinking they may need to expand capacity, and this area would make sense for such an expansion

Keith P. · #**496** Posted **Apr 10, 2015, 3:47 AM**

Nonsense. This is similar to the geniuses at the airport making a retail development out of their lands while ignoring basic navigational and safety requirements for the airfield. Dal should not be in the commercial real estate business and competing with private-sector developers.

Colin May · #**497** Posted **Apr 10, 2015, 2:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by Keith P.

Nonsense. This is similar to the geniuses at the airport making a retail development out of their lands while ignoring basic navigational and safety requirements for the airfield. Dal should not be in the commercial real estate business and competing with private-sector developers.

NavCanada is responsible for purchase, installation, operation and maintenance of the navigational aids.
Discussion, review and publication of the review of the emergency response is the responsibility of HIAA and the press and public should maintain a focus on early implementation of any necessary changes.
Frank magazine has an excellent satirical response to the 'World class' Halifax meme.

counterfactual · #**498** Posted **Apr 11, 2015, 2:06 AM**

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Originally Posted by Keith P.

Nonsense. This is similar to the geniuses at the airport making a retail development out of their lands while ignoring basic navigational and safety requirements for the airfield. Dal should not be in the commercial real estate business and competing with private-sector developers.

You know I think airport retail is a incredibly stupid idea.

But come on, Dalhousie is *not* in the "property development" business!

When it was said earlier that the university was "partnering" to develop a "mixed use" building, it is obvious that Dalhouse is expanding this part of the campus (new health admin building) and want to add some student accommodation to service the expanding campus.

Dalhousie is not going to develop a residential property. They'll get a developer to partner with to do that. And it'll be "mixed use" because they'll have retail on the bottom floor, just like the new residence on campus.

If Dalhousie is partnering on residential development, it is to provide residential accommodation for students, grad students, faculty, etc.

someone123 · #**499** Posted **Apr 11, 2015, 3:57 AM**

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Originally Posted by counterfactual

But come on, Dalhousie is *not* in the "property development" business!

I've never really understood the "public sector should stay out of the X business!" stuff.

Is it okay for Dalhousie to sell food on their campus? What's the alternative? Technically, this is Dal competing as a landlord or competing with private food vendors. There are private colleges too. Dal is competing with those.

Anything can be made public or private. The only important thing is the cost/benefit to society. Some things are more efficient under private market economics, and other things aren't (e.g., natural monopolies, or large-scale R&D beyond what companies can handle). Lots of things don't matter much one way or the other or should be bundled together. Having a debate about whether private or public enterprises are better is like arguing over whether hammers are better than screwdrivers. Thinking that private market economics is the solution to everything is like thinking that hammers are always the best solution.

counterfactual · #**500** Posted **Apr 11, 2015, 4:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by someone123

I've never really understood the "public sector should stay out of the X business!" stuff.

Is it okay for Dalhousie to sell food on their campus? What's the alternative? Technically, this is Dal competing as a landlord or competing with private food vendors. There are private colleges too. Dal is competing with those.

Anything can be made public or private. The only important thing is the cost/benefit to society. Some things are more efficient under private market economics, and other things aren't (e.g., natural monopolies, or large-scale R&D beyond what companies can handle). Lots of things don't matter much one way or the other or should be bundled together. Having a debate about whether private or public enterprises are better is like arguing over whether hammers are better than screwdrivers. Thinking that private market economics is the solution to everything is like thinking that hammers are always the best solution.

As usual, someone123 you've said it very, very, well. Really glad you post regularly around here. Seriously.