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Originally Posted by alki
My point was that the major issue is NOT bad design. It is far more complicated than that. It has to do with a group of bldgs being the focal point......the heart.....of the city. Where the action is. When I lived in LA, DTLA was not where it was happening. There was no vitality or excitement to the central core. And where there is no excitement, all its imperfections become much more noticeable.
And you're right....I contend the average person could care less about those details esp when there is a sense of excitement. ID posted that when he took his friends to DTLA, they didn't notice the parking lots and the overhead wires because they were so turned out by the city.
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alki, I still think you're making it more complicated than it really is. even the idea of "excitement" is too vague or leads ppl to think the problem with dtla isn't as serious as it actually is. at the very least, I think far more ppl will be pleased by a hood that is charming.....which means it can't look like
.....instead of just exciting. Obviously the best of both worlds will be a hood that is charming AND exciting.
I have a hunch that for every person who's like illithid's friends, there are far more ppl who will have a "show me" tude about a hood, dt included, & will be very picky & notice how much of it still is
&
. and you can be quite sure that I have seen dt from the POV of a person walking around there....if anything, it's at moments like then that I notice how many of the sidewalks desperately need to be steam cleaned, or how
& hovel like too many of the smaller older stores are, or how many shack like bldgs are wedged in throughout the hood, or how many parking lots not only break up the continuity of the scene but are full of potholes & could use a resurfacing. Or things that aren't obvious when passing by at 30 mph.
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Originally Posted by ziggy331
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DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES – Jade Enterprises, a major commercial property owner with significant holdings in the Fashion District, has submitted plans to build its first Downtown residential project.
The company is looking to build a 419-unit, two-building complex at Pico Boulevard and Flower Streets on two side-by-side parking lots, according to plans filed with the city.
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Interesting... Here's to hoping it's a quality development!  |
that's one of the many pieces of the hood that tends to be overlooked or forgotten til one is actually there....And then when a person notices things like that, it's one of those instances when they become greatly aware of how much more improvement still is desperately needed. It's at times like that that I suddenly understand why so many visitors say that LA lacks a certain niceness & are far more impressed by [insert name of other city here], or why too many local ppl will feel the same way.
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Originally Posted by blackcat23
I saw in the bi-weekly city planners report that there are two 7 story residential buildings planned for 301 Olympic (intersection with Hill St). Is this something that's already out there under a different name, or is this a new proposal?
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I believe this is the location of the proposed proj.....
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^ another one of the dozens & dozens & dozens of pieces of land in dt that have long needed to be cleaned up & improved. The number of such locations is overwhelming, which is why I
when ppl start grumbling about a new devlpt not fitting a certain design concept, or certainly not being taller. We should all be so lucky if the hood ever reaches a point....where it's so far along in the process of being fixed up.....that we can now start sniffing the flowers.
I know a long time ago, huge amts of land in the burbs were being built on....thousands of acres....all at the same time. In that case, it involved thousands of tract houses & many shopping ctrs springing up almost overnight. And they'd all fill up with new residents, renters & shoppers quite quickly.
It would be nice if an urban version of that occurs in dtla....or where many devlprs put up a huge number of new apt bldgs & various commercial projs all within a short amt of time, & they fill up fast enough that none of the devlprs have to pull back.
btw, I was on topanga canyon blvd in the northern part of the SF valley yesterday....very typical of the older burbs that grew fast & were very popular over 30 yrs ago. It looked
& actually kind of
poor....not helped by the fact the weather was as hot as hell. That type of
devlpt is why I think sprawl earned such a negative reputation in LA.
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