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Old Posted Dec 11, 2025, 7:06 PM
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Tribune II will never happen unless we see the second coming of Rahm.
Michael Fassnacht for mayor!

He'll never win over the 35% of Chicago that turns out in February to vote, but a guy can dream...
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Old Posted Dec 11, 2025, 7:10 PM
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I love you LVDW. Also "no wealthy buyer is buying in Chicago/Ken took massive losses on his properties" contradicts itself. No notes otherwise.
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Old Posted Dec 11, 2025, 9:42 PM
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Progressive local politics isn't the cause of the poor real estate market, a phenomenon which is being experienced pretty much nationwide. Pretty much every city in this country is seeing this drop in construction, it is not due to the current mayor of the city. This narrative of progressive politics pushing the wealthy out of the city is a narrative that has been proven wrong over and over again, yet it keeps on being pushed regardless.

Also, for what it's worth, yes, I do think that Brandon Johnson is an utterly incompetent fool, but that belief if not due to his claimed beliefs, but that he's "all bark and no bite", commonly proclaiming things, but not actually putting any effort into getting those things done. You can have competent and incompetent politicians on either side of the political spectrum, and unfortunately in Chicago, we have been blessed with 2 incompetent politicians who happen to fall on the progressive side of the spectrum.
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Old Posted Dec 11, 2025, 10:58 PM
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Yes, downtown Chicago is on track to deliver less than 300 units this year which is less than 10% of average annual deliveries since 2000.

This is a clear result of the current adminstation (ruled by dunces) doing things like appointing hardcore left-NIMBYs like Carlos Rosa to be zoning chair. Is it shocking to anyone that theres basically zero in the pipeline 18-36 months on from that fiasco?

As a result, Chicago continues to lead the nation in rent growth, home price growth, and a variety of other measures while the rest of the nation (where housing is legal) is actually seing rents fall.



As far as the condo question, apartments simply don't see the premiums necessary to push beyond 60 floors or so. They are typically denser floor plans which also tends to choke out the efficiency of the lower floors by requiring more elevators and a larger core to reach the same height as a luxury condo tower which might have only one or two units per floor at the top. As such, super skinny super talls are just ill suited to the rental business model.

Tribune II will never happen unless we see the second coming of Rahm. The dunce squad in charge of our city has already chased off Citadel and no wealthy person in their right minds is shopping for a new ultra luxury penthouse in Chicago right now. This is why Ken Griffin himself has taken huge losses on his condo purchases here. The condo market is dead here until Chicago voters can demonstrate the motivation and maturity to reliably elect grown adults with actual life and career experience who aren't bought and paid for pawns of a special interest.

Until such a time, prepare for catastropic tax increases, rent increases, and general degredation of the quality of life for anyone who isn't a transplant working in the back of house for some F500 company making multiple six figures. The only reason we haven't gone full Detroit is that we continue to be way more affordable than the coasts simply because we started from such a low baseline. This advantage is being rapidly eroded by Mayor Dipshit and his pals like Kaegi.

Just keep in mind what just happened with Lawndale, Austin, Englewood, etc tax bills. You have the progressive candidate telling you how they are going to punish commercial owners, help black and brown neighborhoods, and create stability and transparacy by implementing a new computer assessment system.

The problem is the Asssessor is incompetent and unqualified and no amount of nice platitudes makes up for it. The net result of his policies has actually been a catastropic collapse of commercial property values resulting in massive transfer of tax liability to residential, 100%+ tax increases on almost exclusively poor black neighborhoods while the Gold Coast saw a 5% decrease, and a comically bad implementation of the new computer system with late bills 3 of the last 5 tax years. The exact opposite of all the nice things he promised.

Actions speak louder than words and unfortunately we are in dark days as a city until we throw the bums out.
Lots of hyperbole here and not much substance.

BJ is a terrible mayor, full stop. Our city's finances are in horrendous shape and need dire saving by a fiscally responsible mayoral administration.

But all is certainly not lost. You complain about the decrease in downtown property values, but fail to acknowledge at all the increase in property values in the neighborhoods?

Part of that massive increase in property taxes on the south/west sides was because they became more valuable (I understand that much of it was due to the downtown commercial decrease). Things are getting better in parts of the city. It is important we elect someone who can let these changes continue and not stifle them.

Also you know just as much as anyone here that Ken Griffin overpaid. That was clear when he bought from 9 Walton years ago as it is today. The condo market in this city hasn't been great since before the Great Recession, 20 years ago, so your comment about Rahm is wrong. Even before Covid, plenty of projects struggled. And condo projects in the neighborhoods have seen massive increases (looking at you West Loop- if we choose to separate that from downtown).

This post feels like something I would find on my neighborhood Facebook, rather than a nuanced take about the struggles we find ourselves in due to an incompetent mayoral administration. There is lot to worry about, but go outside for a walk and enjoy the city for a few days and realize not all is lost.
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Old Posted Dec 20, 2025, 9:20 PM
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So - Some pretty interesting developments within the city council today.....

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/poli...nsons-head-tax

On the content of the budget - I'm mixed..... Very happy to see the head tax out, but the city is ramping up fees on several things. Alcohol sales (outside bars), plastic bags, rideshares, etc. I do really wish we had a city council that was a bit more focused on addressing the real budget problems (I.E., pensions), but that won't happen until we get a constitutional amendment in Springfield. I don't see that happening anytime soon....

I think the bigger news here though is how blatantly the council threw a big fat middle finger to Brandon Johnson. And for that - I am incredibly happy and relieved to see we have a collection of Alderman wiling to tell BJ to go fuck himself.

Johnson would be a moron to try to veto this move, but then again..... He's a moron so I wouldn't be surprised if he does indeed veto this vote.
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As some predicted, the weakness and inexperience of Mayor Johnson has led to a generational change in how the city council works. Instead of simply rubber stamping the mayor's agenda, as was tradition since at least the 1950s, they are now actually doing their jobs and pushing back. This is helping build a bench of competent politicians, something we have needed for decades.

This is a very good sign for the long-term prospects of the city. Combine it with crime dropping, continued advanced pension payments, and no property tax increases (yet) and the city is on a much better path than just a few years ago.

If we can get a more experienced administration on the 5th floor next year, I will be downright optimistic.

Specific Alders who get props in the article: Aldermen Nicole Lee (11th), Scott Waguespack (32nd), Samantha Nugent (39th), Pat Dowell (3rd), Desmon Yancy (5th), Bill Conway (34th), Anthony Beale (9th)
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Old Posted Jan 5, 2026, 5:15 PM
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As some predicted, the weakness and inexperience of Mayor Johnson has led to a generational change in how the city council works. Instead of simply rubber stamping the mayor's agenda, as was tradition since at least the 1950s, they are now actually doing their jobs and pushing back. This is helping build a bench of competent politicians, something we have needed for decades.

This is a very good sign for the long-term prospects of the city. Combine it with crime dropping, continued advanced pension payments, and no property tax increases (yet) and the city is on a much better path than just a few years ago.

If we can get a more experienced administration on the 5th floor next year, I will be downright optimistic.

Specific Alders who get props in the article: Aldermen Nicole Lee (11th), Scott Waguespack (32nd), Samantha Nugent (39th), Pat Dowell (3rd), Desmon Yancy (5th), Bill Conway (34th), Anthony Beale (9th)
The unexpected bonus of having this mayor. Funny how this all turned out.
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Old Posted Jan 5, 2026, 6:11 PM
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As some predicted, the weakness and inexperience of Mayor Johnson has led to a generational change in how the city council works. Instead of simply rubber stamping the mayor's agenda, as was tradition since at least the 1950s, they are now actually doing their jobs and pushing back. This is helping build a bench of competent politicians, something we have needed for decades.

This is a very good sign for the long-term prospects of the city. Combine it with crime dropping, continued advanced pension payments, and no property tax increases (yet) and the city is on a much better path than just a few years ago.

If we can get a more experienced administration on the 5th floor next year, I will be downright optimistic.

Specific Alders who get props in the article: Aldermen Nicole Lee (11th), Scott Waguespack (32nd), Samantha Nugent (39th), Pat Dowell (3rd), Desmon Yancy (5th), Bill Conway (34th), Anthony Beale (9th)
Yep, and I'm happy to see many Alders doing their jobs. Mine specifically has been a Johnson puppet...... Hoping someone steps up to challenge LaSpata this upcoming election cycle.
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Old Posted Jan 6, 2026, 8:19 PM
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As some predicted, the weakness and inexperience of Mayor Johnson has led to a generational change in how the city council works. Instead of simply rubber stamping the mayor's agenda, as was tradition since at least the 1950s, they are now actually doing their jobs and pushing back. This is helping build a bench of competent politicians, something we have needed for decades.

This is a very good sign for the long-term prospects of the city. Combine it with crime dropping, continued advanced pension payments, and no property tax increases (yet) and the city is on a much better path than just a few years ago.

If we can get a more experienced administration on the 5th floor next year, I will be downright optimistic.

Specific Alders who get props in the article: Aldermen Nicole Lee (11th), Scott Waguespack (32nd), Samantha Nugent (39th), Pat Dowell (3rd), Desmon Yancy (5th), Bill Conway (34th), Anthony Beale (9th)
It has taken time for Chicago to evolve beyond two generations of Daleys and machine politics. The parking meter deal fiasco should have been a major wakeup call that Chicago needed an active and accountable city council. OTOH, Chicago needs to avoid having a weak leader with 50 fiefdoms.
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Old Posted Jan 6, 2026, 10:17 PM
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Quigley is running for mayor

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The veteran Democratic congressman confirmed his bid for Chicago mayor while speaking with John Williams on WGN Radio.

“We’ll have a formal announcement and talk about that after the March primary,” Quigley said when asked about a potential bid.
https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/...o-mayoral-bid/
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Google AI overview on Quigley's politics:

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Mike Quigley is generally considered a socially liberal, establishment Democrat who leans left on core issues but shows moderate tendencies through bipartisanship and fiscal focus, earning him a profile as a reform-minded member who sometimes bucks the party line for efficiency or transparency, though he's a reliable progressive voice on LGBTQ+ rights, environment, and civil liberties. He's known as an ally for Democratic priorities but also for working across the aisle, as seen in his support for bipartisan bills and his focus on efficient governance, notes his Harris School profile.

OK, that certainly makes me want learn more.

Sounds like a regular and reasonable person, as opposed to the complete fucking hyper-partisan nutjob we have now.

Who else has officially confirmed they're running?
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I like Mike Quigley, although I admittedly don't know too much about him. I look forward to hearing more about his platform when he officially announces.

Honestly, it's not going to take much to make me happy. The current mayor has set a really low bar.
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I have met Quigley a few times and liked him A LOT… and I am familiar with his politics. He would 100% get my vote so long as he pledges to continue what Johnson is doing to lower crime. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. BJ is not a good mayor and needs to be out, but he has hit the mark when it comes to crime. That is the one thing we should continue from BJ’s administration — and change just about everything else.

Edit: And I know a lot of people will want to chalk this all up to Snelling, but as someone who has a home in Hyde Park and quite a bit of family living on the southside, there has been a change under Johnson. Much more community-based initiatives, community policing, and outreach/activities directed at the youth -- all things that were either non-existent or lacking in funding and commitment from previous administrations. Johnson is committed to those, and it shows.

Replace Johnson, but keep and build on his initiatives to combat crime.

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I have met Quigley a few times and liked him A LOT… and I am familiar with his politics. He would 100% get my vote so long as he pledges to continue what Johnson is doing to lower crime. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. BJ is not a good mayor and needs to be out, but he has hit the mark when it comes to crime. That is the one thing we should continue from BJ’s administration — and change just about everything else.

Edit: And I know a lot of people will want to chalk this all up to Snelling, but as someone who has a home in Hyde Park and quite a bit of family living on the southside, there has been a change under Johnson. Much more community-based initiatives, community policing, and outreach/activities directed at the youth -- all things that were either non-existent or lacking in funding and commitment from previous administrations. Johnson is committed to those, and it shows.

Replace Johnson, but keep and build on his initiatives to combat crime.

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I don't know how much federal funding was behind any of those initiatives. But there has been quite a bit of concern raised nationally about how cuts to funding, much of which was increased as a result of COVID impacts, could affect violence prevention programs

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...e/87996896007/
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I know a lot of people will want to chalk this all up to Snelling
Anyone who chalks up the big drop in gun crime in the city to any one thing is COMPLETELY missing the script.

Brandon's initiatives, Snelling's capable CPD leadership, replacing Kim Foxx, and a very broad, macro-level, national return to law and order after pandemic-induced chaos are all big contributing factors.
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also re: community focused resourcing (jobs placement and training programs, increased mental health funding, violence intervention, wraparound social services) - this was all heavily funded at the federal level via Biden era policies. all of this unquestionably had a significant impact, and has since been eliminated by Trump. dont be surprised if this commendable progress is lost in a couple years.
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Anyone who chalks up the big drop in gun crime in the city to any one thing is COMPLETELY missing the script.

Brandon's initiatives, Snelling's capable CPD leadership, replacing Kim Foxx, and a very broad, macro-level, national return to law and order after pandemic-induced chaos are all big contributing factors.
Let's not forget the good work of local drug distribution networks from Mexican cartel leadership, all the way down to the guy delivering the dope to the junkies on Lower Wacker Drive via e-bike for the local gangs - all working in concert to maintain good turf relationships and avoiding any collateral spillover to the rest of civil society. . .

. . . I'll see myself out

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Anyone who chalks up the big drop in gun crime in the city to any one thing is COMPLETELY missing the script.

Brandon's initiatives, Snelling's capable CPD leadership, replacing Kim Foxx, and a very broad, macro-level, national return to law and order after pandemic-induced chaos are all big contributing factors.
100% agree with this my friend.... no need to course correct something that is on the correct path and trajectory. But sadly, yes, I have definitely heard partisans want to chalk everything good that is crime related up to Snelling. Granted, Snelling is impressive but Johnson deserves credit too (on crime) along with the other factors you pointed out.

To give Johnson credit for getting one thing right does not absolve him from being woefully inept at everything else. Keep that one thing/built on it, and show everything else the door - Johnson included.
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100% agree with this my friend.... no need to course correct something that is on the correct path and trajectory. But sadly, yes, I have definitely heard partisans want to chalk everything good that is crime related up to Snelling. Granted, Snelling is impressive but Johnson deserves credit too (on crime) along with the other factors you pointed out.

To give Johnson credit for getting one thing right does not absolve him from being woefully inept at everything else. Keep that one thing/built on it, and show everything else the door - Johnson included.
And most of the nation is seeing a drop back to pre-pandemic long-term trends down. Difficult to say anything specific to a location.

Homicide rate declines sharply in dozens of US cities, a new report show
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Adam Gelb, president and CEO of the council — a nonpartisan think tank for criminal justice policy and research — said that after historic increases in violence during the Covid-19 pandemic, this year brought historic decreases. The study found some cities recorded decades-low numbers, with the overall homicide rate dropping to its lowest in decades.


https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/23/us/us...de-rate-report
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More state-specific, but still very relevant for this thread since Chicago is a big part of Illinois, and with respect to how Pritzker is helping better manage the state's finances:

Illinois Sees Sustained Progress on Long-Term Debt Reduction in FY2026

https://www.civicfed.org/blog/illino...duction-fy2026
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