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Old Posted Feb 7, 2009, 10:11 PM
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5 meters is quite a difference, it is a true subway car. Just like how a 200 meter tall tower looks much taller than a 175 meter tall tower. It does not have to e 1.5 or 2 times bigger to feel much larger. If anything this picture works against C-trains favor because it is on an angle (making it look shorter) and some of the road cars (such as the silver car) are closer to the photographer than the train making the C-train appear smaller than it should.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 8, 2009, 12:57 AM
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I posted that shot because it's one of the few side-on shots of the trains with cars in the same shot for perspective. Agreed that it looks huge in the pic.
     
     
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5 meters is quite a difference, it is a true subway car. Just like how a 200 meter tall tower looks much taller than a 175 meter tall tower. It does not have to e 1.5 or 2 times bigger to feel much larger. If anything this picture works against C-trains favor because it is on an angle (making it look shorter) and some of the road cars (such as the silver car) are closer to the photographer than the train making the C-train appear smaller than it should.
By a human sized perspective, 5 additional metres is not much. 25-metres is.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 9, 2009, 8:03 PM
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Politically charged article, but interesting nonetheless:
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For Premier Campbell, the chickens are coming home to roost and it looks like that old chicken coop is going to be pretty full come election day on May 12.

Chicken one: Surprise! Big deficits. Where the Campbell crowd -- our "business oriented government"-- is in the most trouble is on the economic front. Where just a few weeks after he stated bluntly that we would have a balanced budget in 2009, Premier Campbell was forced to get amendments to his own law requiring balanced budget so that his government can bring two consecutive massive deficits.

Chicken two: P3 boondoggles. The government's commitment to their friends brought about the public/private partnerships, which anyone with half a brain could and did say would disastrous. We were pitched that these partnerships would lessen government financial exposure on large projects. How could any one in high office be so dumb? It is not the partner that makes the guarantee.

As the Port Mann–Macquarie construction fiasco demonstrates, it's the government that guarantees the private partner. It's not governments that go broke, it's private companies. This project that started in the $1.5 billion range will now be $3 billion plus, plus, plus.

In addition to the fiscal grief, the government's announcement of a toll will enrage even its supporters. Why, they are asking, should the Port Mann Bridge have tolls where others don't?

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Chicken four: Taxpayers run over by the Canada Line. Then there is the RAV line, the name of which has been sanitized to the Canada Line. Whatever you call it, the SkyTrain extension has produced not only huge overruns but a lawsuit by the merchants along Cambie Street who, because of the construction, have lost huge sums of money with several going broke. Thus does our autocratic premier deal with small businesses.
Of course, it's the Tyee... but interesting, nonetheless... for one thing. they call it a SkyTrain extension.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 9, 2009, 8:41 PM
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I think the NDP themselves didn't compensate business owners (let alone the inconvenience) they've made during the Millennium Line construction.
     
     
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It sucks for the businesses along Cambie street but that is life. How many streets are torn up in the lower-mainland every year? If tax payers had to compensate businesses every time a street was improved we could not afford to build anything. This issue is so short term.
     
     
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Politically charged article, but interesting nonetheless:


Of course, it's the Tyee... but interesting, nonetheless... for one thing. they call it a SkyTrain extension.
good governments run a defecit in a recession

the liberals will win the next one maybe lose a little support perhaps

re cambie businesses they should have focussed on the areas residents and not relied on regional customers - seems the local places survived the construction - the ones that shut down were probably going to shut down or move anyway its not like Cambie has ever been a draw like south granville or robson

now the ones left will enjoy more business with the added canada line traffic it could bring
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Exactly, i am tired of hearing the Cambie merchants smallest violin.
     
     
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It's not as simple as you guys make it out to be. I know someone who owned a franchise coffee shop in the Cambie Village and they lost tons of money as soon as construction started. Now I don't see why someone from the other side of town would come to have coffee there (since there are a ton around the city). Likewise, I took tons of pictures when construction was going on around there, and I can tell you that a very small amount of people actually walked there during construction. What made things even worse was the fact that you had to go one block east at every intersection during construction, making it Cambie the street to avoid even on foot.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 10, 2009, 3:26 AM
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Well, maybe they should have built it as an elevated guide-way as first planned, would have saved a lot of money, construction times would have been shorter and the disturbance from construction would have been far less, but you know what, the Cambie street businesses and residents complained that it would be an eyesore and demanded a subway, so, here we are. I am tired of people around here wanting it both ways. It will do wonders for Cambie when it opens and it is a needed transit corridor for the region.
     
     
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It's not as simple as you guys make it out to be. I know someone who owned a franchise coffee shop in the Cambie Village and they lost tons of money as soon as construction started. Now I don't see why someone from the other side of town would come to have coffee there (since there are a ton around the city). Likewise, I took tons of pictures when construction was going on around there, and I can tell you that a very small amount of people actually walked there during construction. What made things even worse was the fact that you had to go one block east at every intersection during construction, making it Cambie the street to avoid even on foot.
The problem was that for some reason the city felt the need to keep the street open to traffic during construction. As there was no parking, the traffic did the businesses little good. Even worse, they had to narrow the sidewalks to allow the traffic which made the pedestrian environment miserable. There were no bike racks in a neighbourhood that has one of the highest levels of cycling in North America.

If they would have just closed the road, they probably could have finished constructed in half the time. The sidewalks would have been wider and there would have been no traffic noise and pollution so in the evenings and weekends, it would have been a great place to hang out and enjoy a meal or a drink.
     
     
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The problem was that for some reason the city felt the need to keep the street open to traffic during construction. As there was no parking, the traffic did the businesses little good. Even worse, they had to narrow the sidewalks to allow the traffic which made the pedestrian environment miserable. There were no bike racks in a neighbourhood that has one of the highest levels of cycling in North America.

If they would have just closed the road, they probably could have finished constructed in half the time. The sidewalks would have been wider and there would have been no traffic noise and pollution so in the evenings and weekends, it would have been a great place to hang out and enjoy a meal or a drink.
Idea might sound good but I think the merchants would have revolted if the street was closed off entirely even for a shorter period.

Don't worry Cambie Street Merchants....lots of new customers to the area (like me) are going to be coming soon!!
     
     
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It's not as simple as you guys make it out to be. I know someone who owned a franchise coffee shop in the Cambie Village and they lost tons of money as soon as construction started. Now I don't see why someone from the other side of town would come to have coffee there (since there are a ton around the city). Likewise, I took tons of pictures when construction was going on around there, and I can tell you that a very small amount of people actually walked there during construction. What made things even worse was the fact that you had to go one block east at every intersection during construction, making it Cambie the street to avoid even on foot.
i don't know i was down there a few times during construction - the area near capers - and it wasn't that bad to get around on foot

what part of cambie are we talking about? the area near best buy is a crappy area anyway - anything other than big box stores would have a hard problem there - its a bad location
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When will they put the ads on the side anyways?
I really hate to see it with bare metal.
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Old Posted Feb 11, 2009, 3:15 AM
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I prefer bare more than ads. I'm guessing there won't be ads initially... probably by November we may see 2010 ads as part of TransLink's contract with 2010.
     
     
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pictures taken by me on Saturday Feb 7th

Broadway Station


traffic was a mess at Broadway/Cambie that day.


Cambie between 6th ave and 7th ave


Looks like the off-ramp from Cambie bridge to 6th avenue is starting to come along.


Not sure what the giant blocks of styrofoam are for? I've seen this elsewhere, they bury the styrofoam in the dirt for some reason.




Backup train for the Canada Line?


Olympic Village station area


Yaletown-Roundhouse Station




     
     
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Old Posted Feb 11, 2009, 4:20 AM
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The wood stands out quite nicely at Broadway STN. Thanks for the pictures matt!
     
     
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Tafryn's updates:
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2009-02-09 - Vancouver City Centre Station

























2009-02-09 - Waterfront Station









2009-02-09 - YVR Station
















     
     
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Old Posted Feb 11, 2009, 4:39 AM
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Great photo update. I love the wood ceilings actually.

YVR seems incredibly bright and is flooded with sunlight. Quite nice.
     
     
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Thanks for the updates guys, YVR, Vancouver City Center and Broadway are all looking very nice.
     
     
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