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Old Posted Nov 15, 2009, 7:01 PM
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North Enders Doin' it Right - on the 'right' side of town
Published Thursday November 12th, 2009
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A few decades ago a song entitled Doin' it Right was made popular by a Nova Scotia group called April Wine. A couple of the lines from the lyrics were:


"Doin' it right, doin' it right,

We're doin' it right on the wrong side of town."

Last week we had an official opening and a good turnout for the revitalized Victoria Square in the old north end, one of the many important steps on the road to rebuilding an inner-city community. As I was taking a drive through this neighbourhood last week I noticed yet another transformation taking place: a grand, old home from the 1800s on Albert Street was getting a complete makeover, inside and out. One of the activities that caught my eye was the old cedar shingles being replaced with new cedar shingles.

"Thank God," I said - at least someone has the good sense and taste to use original materials in restoring a building to its former glory.

If you haven't already guessed, I absolutely detest the use of vinyl siding on historic buildings. It's comparable to dressing a princess in a sack. To be perfectly honest I don't like it on new buildings either. Properly maintained cedar shingles will last a 100 years. Can we say as much for vinyl siding?

I stopped long enough to talk to the owner, Zakaria Ahmad, a 22-year-old from Ottawa. He laughed and said that he is probably the only Muslim buying properties in the old north end. He told me Saint John is the oldest incorporated city in Canada and if you are on the lookout for a property, buying a home in this friendly city would be an ideal option for investors. Prices are low and homes are available at nearly half of the market prices in other cities. There has never been a better opportunity to buy a home in one of the county's best residential cities at a great bargain deal. He describes Saint John as a hidden gem waiting to be discovered by investors. It's a city of great opportunity that will have lots of potential in the upcoming years.

I know there are a lot of folks that have placed their bets on the "vinyl is final" option. It may look and feel good in the valley's cookie-cutter communities, but I believe over the long haul the smart money will be invested in the city core. The housing market is not unlike the stock market where you have enough insight to buy at, or near the bottom, and have the opportunity to sell at the top. Do you get the picture?

I moved down to Kennedy Street and there, before my eyes, was yet another transformation taking place, again, stone and cedar shingles. "What's this," I asked? I knew that there was a threat of a H1N1 pandemic, but could Saint John be on the verge of an epidemic of good taste and common sense?

I just had to stop and talk to the owner. Bob Thompson, who owns B&B Thompson Carpentry, is a quiet, capable and unassuming middle-aged man. He told me that the house was built in the mid-1800s and over the years had been cut up to make three apartments. He is in the process of restoring the building to its intended use, that of a single-family home.

It strikes me that many of the houses in the old north end were built more than 100 years ago and in spite of decades of neglect many are still fundamentally sound and represent good value. These homes were built by Saint John's proud tradesmen and were built to last. True, many may need a bit of TLC, but I will wager a bet they could very well last another 100 years.

If I were to change the lyrics of Doin' it Right as a segue into some of these restoration efforts in the old north end, it might go like this:

"Doin' it right, doin' it right,

We're doin' it right on the right side of town."

Herb Duncan is a Saint John businessman who has followed city issues for more than three decades. He can be reached by e-mail at

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Old Posted Nov 16, 2009, 10:12 AM
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Not Fredericton's.

Or Trinity Drive, for that matter.
Or the entire East Point Shopping. Since its on a massive mountain lol
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Old Posted Nov 18, 2009, 2:53 PM
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I know this thread is behind on photo updates, so I took a photo of the Market Square expansion a couple days ago with my iPhone as I walked past



You can see the bronze-coloured alpolic panels have begun to be installed, and I really like the colour, I just wish the expansion as a whole was more interesting or at least taller. There was mention when the lighthouse at the corner of Union and St. Patrick was removed though that they were clearing the way for a future expansion on that side as well, but it could be years before we see any movement on that. Hopefully the Convention Centre upgrades will come sooner rather than later.
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Old Posted Nov 18, 2009, 9:29 PM
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It would have been nice to see it a bit taller, but you have to admit that it fills that area in quite nicely.
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Old Posted Nov 22, 2009, 5:11 PM
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Hey All,

Given that things have been a bit slower on here lately, I'm not sure if any of you have visited this blog:

http://urbanplans.blogspot.com/search/label/uptown%20development

It's kept pretty up to date and has pictures of many projects going on around SJ.
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Old Posted Nov 22, 2009, 10:04 PM
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Robert Stern

I read last night that the architecture firm working on the IOL headquaters is also designing the George W. Bush presidential library.

Useless fact, but I thought it was neat.
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Old Posted Nov 23, 2009, 10:56 AM
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Monday, November 23, 2009
East Point Requests More Expansion
East Point Shopping Center keeps getting bigger and is looking to expand more. A request for a new road in the shopping district will be proposed at Council tonight. If approved the road will be added onto the end of the pre-existing Retail Drive. Developers have requested the new road be named, "East Point Way".


The next big opening for the shopping district is Costco in May.
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Old Posted Nov 23, 2009, 12:57 PM
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East Point Requests More Expansion
East Point Shopping Center keeps getting bigger and is looking to expand more. A request for a new road in the shopping district will be proposed at Council tonight. If approved the road will be added onto the end of the pre-existing Retail Drive. Developers have requested the new road be named, "East Point Way".


The next big opening for the shopping district is Costco in May.
It's sad to say, but by the time East Point is built out, the trend of box store developments is going to be long gone. The layout of East Point in particular isn't too supportive of internalization (i.e. multi-destination trips within the development) because there aren't any pathways between buildings and you're forced to have to walk through the parking lot or if you're lazy like me, get in the car and park right in front of each building. It would have been better if the buildings were more in a line with an outdoor pedestrian walkway through the middle and parking on either side of the strip. Stores could have had a utilitarian parking lot oriented back entrance and a tradition streetfront entrance.

Oh, well... maybe next time!
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Old Posted Nov 23, 2009, 2:22 PM
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They'll be building beside the new hotel and the pre-existing mall, essentially adding another mall beside the one they already have.

They still need a restaurant or some kind of eatery up there. They shouldn't have put Montana's on its own.
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Old Posted Nov 23, 2009, 6:32 PM
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Sorry for the double-post, but I received this in my inbox this morning for those interested:




UNB Saint John's capital projects update

As everyone knows, there is considerable construction work currently taking place on campus. Let me begin by thanking you for your patience and cooperation during this very hectic time.

To accommodate the ongoing improvements being made to our campus, a change was made to the vehicle traffic patterns. A new access road was created to minimize any disruption to the students and teaching.

I would like to provide an update on four major projects currently taking place: Dalhousie's New Brunswick Medical Education Training Program, Canada Games Stadium, the New Brunswick Community College (NBCC) Allied Health Building, and the University Commons building.

Dalhousie's New Brunswick Medical Education Training Program

The Saint John College building will become the new home for Dalhousie's New Brunswick Medical Education Training Program. Renovations to this existing building are required, as well as an addition. In August, the tender for this work was awarded to Avondale Construction. Both the renovations and addition have begun, with the renovations expected to be completed in early spring. This will allow for the first intake of medical students in September 2010. The addition to the building is expected to be completed by the summer of 2011 to accommodate the second-year medical students.

Canada Games Stadium

The Canada Games Stadium upgrade is currently underway. There are three phases to this project: civil work, grand stand, and the track and mid-field turf. In October, Avondale Construction was awarded the tender for the major civil work (moving earth, installing drainage systems, etc.) which will be completed in June in time for the Acadian Games. The second phase will be tendered shortly, with the third phase being tendered in early winter of 2010. The entire project is expected to be completed in late fall of 2010.

New Brunswick Community College (NBCC) Allied Health Building

The NBCC Allied Health Building will be tendered and built in phases. The first phase has been awarded to Avondale Construction. Please note that this building is under project management of the Province, not the University of New Brunswick. Project updates we receive from the Province will be shared with the campus community. Completion of this project is scheduled for September 2011.

University Commons

As a follow up to the University Commons update email sent by Robert MacKinnon to the campus community this past fall, this project is moving forward with the architects B & H and Sasaki currently working on a detailed design. The tender will be issued and awarded early 2010, with construction expected to begin by April.

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me at 648-5580.

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Old Posted Nov 25, 2009, 1:39 AM
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$35M Reversing Falls plan will take time
Published Tuesday November 24th, 2009
Attraction: Officials wants to rejuvenate Saint John's number one tourist spot
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SAINT JOHN - The $35-million plan to revitalize Reversing Falls was officially unveiled Monday at the restaurant that carries its name. But the restaurant, as it's known today and the Loyalist Man that greets visitors could become but a memory if common council accepts the proposal.


Bill MacMackin, president of Saint John Waterfront Development, said the plan doesn't call for the money to be spent in one fell swoop.

It calls for the complete redesign to be done over 10 to 15 years.

"Our strategy is to have council adopt this as a master plan," MacMackin said.

After all, MacMackin said, Harbour Passage took 10 years and is still under construction. On Monday, the Reversing Falls Lookout along Harbour Passage was officially opened.

MacMackin said the first phase of the plan will call for the parking at Fallsview Park to be reconstructed and a vendors' park to be built. That will cost about $1 million.

The plans include a name change from Reversing Falls to Fundy's Reversing Rapids.

There will be three areas developed. Fallsview Park will be an adventure area with zip lines running over the water and the jet boat attraction taking centre stage along with an amphitheatre.

The two remaining areas will be on the other side of the bridge where the restaurant and lookout is now. The centre piece of that area will be a more than $10 million interpretation centre that will house a new restaurant. The area will also have a tide tower, marine interpretation area, playground, trails, restaurant and beach access. The existing restaurant will be torn down.

Dan Glenn's company, the Glenn Group, did the design.

"That opens up a view you probably haven't seen here for 100 years," Glenn said of tearing down the existing restaurant.

The site of the current restaurant will become a lookout that will get tourists as close to the water as possible. Much of the current fencing would be removed and replaced with other safety elements to give the illusion that there is nothing between the lookout areas and the water far below.

"It gives you the sense that it's on the edge," Glenn said.

The interpretation centre would be highlighted by a Disney-like ride that would explain the history and wonder of the geological phenomenon and the area.

"They get here and they don't understand what all the hoopla is about," Glenn said about tourists to the area. "They don't get it."

Focus groups that were held in Halifax, Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa and Boston proved that some sort of explanation was required beyond a plaque, said Glenn.

The Loyalist Man, the icon that welcomes tourists to the area, should also be retired, said Glenn.

"The Loyalist Man doesn't really register with people outside of Saint John," Glenn said.

Depending on the final plan, as many as 20 private property owners will have to be included in the negotiations for the land needed to build the project.

"This is a multi-year project," said MacMackin.
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2009, 3:16 AM
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Here is an interesting snippet from Country 94 news :

A Bathurst MP thinks a deal between Irving Oil and the Port of Saint John concerning Long Wharf needs to be investigated by Transport Canada to see if it goes against the Canada Marine Act. Yvon Godin says that is the case because the company has already begun work without permission from Ottawa and believes Irving Oil is breaking the law.


Godin supports the International Longshoremen's Association in their appeal to Transport Minister John Baird that Irving Oil is going against the Canada Marine Act. Minister Baird says he is looking into the matter.
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I'm all for this project, but the man does have a point. If they haven't got permission from the government to do what they're doing, then they should be stopped until all the paperwork comes through. Turning a blind eye to see a big project go through sets a pretty risky precedence that I think the city and federal governments should be wary to avoid.
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2009, 4:07 AM
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I think the Irving's have gone ahead without permission before. This is nothing new.
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2009, 4:32 AM
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Oh I think we can all agree that they have done numerous 'things' without permission in the past. I suspect it's referred to as 'power'.
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Q: When Mr. Irving needs his dishes washed and his floors cleaned what does he do?

A: Calls down to his laundry room "Hey Shawn, get Ivan to come upstairs for a minute, you stay down there...I want my whites to sparkle"
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I believe teh port has indicated that Fort Reliance is renting the site (for likely more money than salt storage brings in) and are doing leasehold improvements on it. If the main deal doesn't go through this rental agreement will be terminated and Fort Reliance will restore the site for its owner (Her Majesty the Queen).
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I believe teh port has indicated that Fort Reliance is renting the site (for likely more money than salt storage brings in) and are doing leasehold improvements on it. If the main deal doesn't go through this rental agreement will be terminated and Fort Reliance will restore the site for its owner (Her Majesty the Queen).
That's my understanding as well. Yes it's a bit shifty on their part, but it is technically legitimate.
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And now they're done driving piles.
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Starbucks will set up shop (not a kiosk) in Uptown Saint John, the café will be located in the Brunswick Square.

http://www.brunswicksquare.ca/tenant_focus.asp?cat=RESTAURANTS%20&TenantID=107
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