noirish Los Angeles - Page 2409

nickdahammer · #**48161** Posted **Aug 7, 2018, 5:47 AM**

Wow, I haven't been down Hartford since I worked downtown. That was a few years ago. I always thought it had potential, despite the awful apartments up against the older buildings. Awesome pictures.

ethereal_reality · #**48162** Posted **Aug 8, 2018, 1:01 AM**

"Amateur 35mm Slide-Photo Forrest Lawn Cemetery, Los Angeles 1953"

Ebay

The way the car are lined up I think this was taken during a funeral.

'mystery' car

detail

It kinda' looks German to me.

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ethereal_reality · #**48163** Posted **Aug 8, 2018, 1:48 AM**

Does anyone know where Orth's Mayflower Warehouse was located in Pasadena? (note the r.r. tracks)

Ebay

"Amateur 35mm Slide-Photo Rose Parade, Pasadena 1967"

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While trying to find the address I ran across another photo that shows Orth's Mayflower Warehouse in the background. (but no address*) I stand corrected. ....see below

This was taken at the 1950 Rose Parade.

pasadenahistory

238 W. Colorado

The warehouse appears to have been wiped out by the 710 freeway.

but wasn't the freeway already there by 1967?

...the date of the top photograph.

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WS1911 · #**48164** Posted **Aug 8, 2018, 2:12 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

"Amateur 35mm Slide-Photo Forrest Lawn Cemetery, Los Angeles 1953"

'mystery' car

detail

It kinda' looks German to me. (think Hogan's Heroes but instead of the green...BLACK)

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It's a 1939-1953 Ford Anglia. Made in the UK.

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HenryHuntington · #**48165** Posted **Aug 8, 2018, 3:45 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Does anyone know where Orth's Mayflower Warehouse was located in Pasadena? (note the r.r. tracks)

Ebay

"Amateur 35mm Slide-Photo Rose Parade, Pasadena 1967"

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While trying to find the address I ran across another photo that shows Orth's Mayflower Warehouse in the background. (but no address*) I stand corrected. ....see below

This was taken at the 1950 Rose Parade.

pasadenahistory

238 W. Colorado

The warehouse appears to have been wiped out by the 710 freeway.

but wasn't the freeway already there by 1967?

...the date of the top photograph.

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I don't believe the freeway arrived until 1969, e-r, but I was in the military then and so dates concerning local events are imprecise for me. In any case, the line crossing Colorado Blvd. was the Union Pacific's Pasadena Branch:

http://www.abandonedrails.com/Pasadena_Branch

Mrs. HH sends her regards and thanks for showing Monterey Park's float. Back in the 1950s, her mom worked at the old City Hall, which had a color photo of each float they'd entered adoring the main hallway. Seems incredibly quaint now, especially since many of the traditional SGV city entrants were displaced by commercial floats. At least SoPas and Sierra Madre still get invitations.

robeach11 · #**48166** Posted **Aug 8, 2018, 4:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

and speaking of crash

oops. I just realized I posted this once before. (but it was a loooong time ago. so I'll leave it be)

......................................very interesting light fixtures.
(I think I said that the last time too)

The building still stands despite Virginia Burnado's lack of driving skills.

GSV

Did we ever figure out the name of the bar?

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Hi! First post here...
29122 South Main Street in Carson is now a rectory of St. Philomena Catholic Church, which is next door (just north).
This location was known as Henri's Lauriat (a dive-ish bar from 1971 until the late 90's). The sign is rusted and faded, but readable.
As Carson wasn't incorporated until 1968, the area may have been loosely known as Torrance at the time of the original pic.

robeach11 · #**48167** Posted **Aug 8, 2018, 4:41 AM**

Hey folks...
I'm doing some rather intensive research into the life of actress Anna May Wong.
In particular, looking for any photos of her residences at 351 South Flower Street or 241 North Figueroa.
Been searching internet for a long while without much success... only results are Historic Aerials which are blurry and hard to determine actual buildings.
Any help or leads would be greatly appreciated!!

Bodin · #**48168** Posted **Aug 8, 2018, 4:44 AM**

My wife an I passed this house the other day and she remembered being at a party in it and the owner claimed there was a secret escape in the house due to it once belonging to a silent film star and they constantly had to avoid press or fans.

Anyone have any info to corroborate this "tale"?

6526 La Mirada

Noir_Noir · #**48169** Posted **Aug 8, 2018, 6:54 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Does anyone know where Orth's Mayflower Warehouse was located in Pasadena? (note the r.r. tracks)

Ebay

"Amateur 35mm Slide-Photo Rose Parade, Pasadena 1967"

238 W. Colorado

The warehouse appears to have been wiped out by the 710 freeway.

but wasn't the freeway already there by 1967?

...the date of the top photograph.

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As deadeye freeway construction goes, it was pretty much a bullseye - Orth's Mayflower Warehouse didn't stand a chance.

1967 -

mil.library.ucsb.edu - Flight AMI_LA_67B, Frame 1452

1972 -

historicaerials.com

Scott Charles · #**48170** Posted **Aug 8, 2018, 8:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by robeach11

Hey folks...
I'm doing some rather intensive research into the life of actress Anna May Wong.
In particular, looking for any photos of her residences at 351 South Flower Street or 241 North Figueroa.
Been searching internet for a long while without much success... only results are Historic Aerials which are blurry and hard to determine actual buildings.
Any help or leads would be greatly appreciated!!

Do any of these help you out at all, Robeach?

CLICK ON EACH IMAGE TO SEE IT FULL SIZED:

FrameFinder

FrameFinder

Some of the buildings present in the 1933 image are gone by the time of the 1941 images. When did Anna May live on Figueroa?

ethereal_reality · #**48171** Posted **Aug 8, 2018, 10:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by Bodin

My wife an I passed this house the other day and she remembered being at a party in it and the owner claimed there was a secret escape in the house
due to it once belonging to a silent film star and they constantly had to avoid press or fans.

Anyone have any info to corroborate this "tale"?

6526 La Mirada

That is a very intriguing story Bodin..

After hitting numerous dead ends, I finally turned up some info.

The stunt double for Margaret Hamilton lived in this house for over 50 years.
Her name was Betty Danko and she was the one riding the broomstick (with the smoke) over Emerald City in the Wizard of Oz.
Margaret Hamilton refused to do the stunt because she had been badly burned in an accident on the set.

But then Betty Danko was badly injured while riding the smoking broomstick (both her legs were burnt and disfigured)
so an extra by the name of Eileen Goodman finished filming the skywriting broom scene.

So says the Movieland Directory

If all of this is correct, it doesn't sound like Betty Danko was famous enough to need an escape route.
(unless she took up a different 'trade' after her movie mishap)

Betty Danko in 'Mixed Nuts' [1934]

lord heath

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GaylordWilshire · #**48172** Posted **Aug 8, 2018, 12:12 PM**

Well, ER, it seems that Betty Danko lived at 6522 La Mirada all those years, next door to 6526. (This block of La Mirada Ave was once Sherwood Ave.) 6522 was demo'ed in 1988 and replaced with an apartment building.... I was wondering how long the other small houses on the block might last, given that so many appear to have been replaced by similar apartments--but then I see that 6526 has received some TLC in recent years:

GSV

I sort of like the old mattress, full of stories of its own no doubt, propped up against the porch-cracking tree.

Re the "secret escape"...was Lila Lee a big enough star to need to need one? I doubt it, but it's a fun idea-- Lila lived at the swc of Western Ave & La Mirada (1227 N Western) in a house that had been moved there by a woman named Moss in 1919 from 1633 S Hope Street. In 1948, this house would be moved again--back toward downtown, to 407½ N Bixel...and, amazingly, it still stands (see next post)

PS...just came across this re Lila Lee...maybe there was a secret passage somewhere on La Mirada. The actress was one of Houdini's leading ladies in one of the silents he made ca 1920. Another source of the rumor may have been Lee's appearance in a 1919 version of "The Secret Garden".... Of course La Mirada & Western was a long way from 6526.... Who knows?

Another building with some La Mirada frontage was the Mandarin Bakery, part of the Mandarin Market that you helped bring to our attention almost 8 years ago in post 1685...

GaylordWilshire · #**48173** Posted **Aug 8, 2018, 1:27 PM**

LAPL

A little more on Lila Lee's house at 1227 N Western Ave, as seen above...moved there from 1633 S Hope St in 1919...then, in 1948, to its current location at 407½ N Bixel:

A corner is visible from the street--

odinthor · #**48174** Posted **Aug 8, 2018, 3:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

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GSV

I sort of like the old mattress, full of stories of its own no doubt, propped up against the porch-cracking tree.

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The porch-cracking tree appears to be Pittosporum undulatum...

https://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi/i...0000+1115+3795

Godzilla · #**48175** Posted **Aug 8, 2018, 4:22 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bodin

My wife an I passed this house the other day and she remembered being at a party in it and the owner claimed there was a secret escape in the house due to it once belonging to a silent film star and they constantly had to avoid press or fans.

Anyone have any info to corroborate this "tale"?

6526 La Mirada

I have heard a great many stories regarding "secret" escape passages involving structures from the '20s and '30s. I have no doubt they existed for a variety of reasons, including avoidance of the press. Yet more likely than not, to the extent they were purpose-built, these passageways may have had something to do with Prohibition or simply a makeshift means of providing private storage. Occasionally, there were "bootleg" add-ons, including basements. I can visualize playing with other ten year olds and hearing a hollow sound under certain floorboards. A realtor described this as an uninsulated crawl space. A little exploration revealed that the crawl space had a stairway, a cot, shelving with pesticides, a few railroad ties - and vermin.

I believe "ice doors" have been discussed on NLA before and think that they may also be a misplaced source for secret escape passage stories, especially by kids who would have been able to fit through them. Prior to the advent of affordable self-contained refrigeration, LA, like other communities, had regular ice delivery. Homes were built with ice delivery doors for that purpose. Some still remain, but the number must be dwindling. (Anyone know when regular horse powered ice delivery in LA ceased? Or any regular ice delivery? Post WW2?) On a related note, there are obvious examples of vented coverings to access crawl spaces, as depicted in GW's Lila Lee residence. Some were larger than typical ice delivery doors and allowed, for example, storage of yard implements, under an elevated porch. It is not hard to imagine someone, especially a child, making use of one of these, to play hide and seek or similar situations.

"Keep out the iceman."

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...y_Fridge_1.jpg

Not LA

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1..._Gosnold_6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...box_Door_2.jpg

March 1926, Pasadena Ice Company
"The remnants of this building are still extant on Arroyo Blvd., north of Glenarm Street."

http://collection.pasadenadigitalhis...37coll8/id/338

Access to crawl space, or not-so-secret exit?

HossC · #**48176** Posted **Aug 8, 2018, 7:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by robeach11

Hey folks...
I'm doing some rather intensive research into the life of actress Anna May Wong.
In particular, looking for any photos of her residences at 351 South Flower Street or 241 North Figueroa.
Been searching internet for a long while without much success... only results are Historic Aerials which are blurry and hard to determine actual buildings.
Any help or leads would be greatly appreciated!!

I don't know what dates Anna May Wong lived at these addresses, but (for the record) she was born in 1905 and died in 1961. Looking through the CDs, 351 S Flower was a Chinese/Oriental laundry from 1905 to 1922 (1905-1920 Wo Yick and 1921-1922 Kee Sing).

On the Baist maps (1921 below), the building looks long and thin. It was next door to the Westwood Apartments at 345 S Flower, but looking them up didn't yield any photos.

USC Digital Library

The only other time after that that 351 S Flower appears in the CDs is 1929, when it was John A Miller's auto park, so I assumed the building was gone (the auto park appears in other CDs at a slightly different address). Then I remembered this 1930 panorama. I've labeled three buildings where I can make out signs. At first I thought that the shape and position of the one I've labeled "Westwood Apts" matched the staggered appearance of 351 on the Baist map (above), but looking closer, the step is only in the roofline, so it looks like it's the Westwood and 351 did become a parking lot. I can't see 351 on the 1927 UCSB aerial either.

Detail from USC Digital Library

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Originally Posted by Scott Charles

FrameFinder

Some of the buildings present in the 1933 image are gone by the time of the 1941 images. When did Anna May live on Figueroa?

Looking at the 1921 Baist map, I think that 241 S Figueroa may be the dark, thin building above the "S" of your "Figueroa Street" label. There are pictures of the grade separations at Figueroa & Temple and Figueroa & First somewhere on the thread - 241 may show up in the background. I'll take a look.

Scott Charles · #**48177** Posted **Aug 8, 2018, 11:11 PM**

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FrameFinder

Looking at my map above, I just found a mistake - the street labeled “Mignonette” should actually be "Diamond" Street.

Obviously, I made an error when I first put together my large map… but where in the world did I come up with "ANGELINA" Street? It certainly isn’t called that on the 1921 Baist map…

Martin Pal · #**48178** Posted **Aug 8, 2018, 11:47 PM**

I did a post a couple weeks ago about the Cinerama Dome and frontage being dressed to look like 1969 for a film being shot by Quentin Tarantino.

The past couple weeks they've taken a stretch of Hollywood Blvd., the 6600 block, between Cherokee and Las Palmas and dressed it for 1969 for more shooting of this film. The Vogue is back as a theatre, the Pussycat is back as is Peaches record store. The Supply Sergeant neon is flickering once again. The shops are selling psychedelic wardrobes, posters, lava lamps and books! Zenith Color TV's are the rage. Don't forget your Kodak film. Bus benches advertise The Rosey Greer Show and the RTD buses tell you reruns of Honey West can be found Saturday evenings.

GeekTyrant

Here's one article about it on L.A. Curbed:
https://la.curbed.com/2018/7/25/1761...e-in-hollywood

Below is a 19 minute video (you can skip the first two minutes more or less) with a guy narrating who does a video blog and posts them on youtube often. He wanders around the street commenting on things, showing some close-ups etc. You'll see a lot.

If you don't like this one, though, just search on youtube for some other videos, there are many, from day to night and from other perspectives. You can find a scene being shot with Pitt & Dicaprio in a car together, for one.

If this type of thing interests you, you'll find something you'll like. I love when they shoot any type of period film in Los Angeles and use locations instead of soundstages and CGI.

• Video Link

HossC · #**48179** Posted **Aug 8, 2018, 11:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by Scott Charles

... but where in the world did I come up with "ANGELINA" Street? It certainly isn’t called that on the 1921 Baist map…

Angelina Street is on plate 6 of the 1921 Baist map. It's the one to the right of Court Street in the top corner. Today, only a stub of that section survives.

Scott Charles · #**48180** Posted **Aug 9, 2018, 1:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by HossC

Angelina Street is on plate 6 of the 1921 Baist map. It's the one to the right of Court Street in the top corner. Today, only a stub of that section survives.

Aww, the poor little thing!

Many thanks, Hoss!