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Old Posted Dec 30, 2015, 9:34 AM
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New College House vs. The Study vs. Hill House....
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Hopefully it'll look better once complete but that blue ish brick looks pretty ugly at the moment.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 30, 2015, 6:52 PM
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1300 fairmount project just got it's zoning/use permit this week. looks like its still progressing towards construction.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 31, 2015, 3:53 PM
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Handsome project 13th & South St.

     
     
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Old Posted Dec 31, 2015, 4:43 PM
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Old Posted Dec 31, 2015, 4:49 PM
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Wow - another fantastic article from Jon Geeting, this time on the reduction of off-street parking capacity in Center City, and how, counter intuitively, the reduction in supply results in lower demand (and lower prices) at the remaining off-street facilities. More proof than ever that we need policies to combat the waste of prime CBD land for parking uses.

http://planphilly.com/articles/2015/12/3...ic-parking-spaces-in-the-last-five-years

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he idea that building more parking capacity will only increase the number of cars in a neighborhood, or conversely, that removing parking spaces can reduce the number of cars often gets short shrift at neighborhood zoning meetings, but the evidence here suggests this is basically how things work. When parking lots go away, parking conditions tighten, driving becomes more unpleasant, and some people respond to this by ditching their cars. Rather than enduring permanent traffic jam conditions, neighborhoods simply level down to a new equilibrium with fewer parking spaces, fewer cars, and higher "alternative" mode share as parking gets tighter.
     
     
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Handsome project 13th & South St.

Yeah, but what the heck is going on at the middle of the South St. roofline?
     
     
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Hopefully it'll look better once complete but that blue ish brick looks pretty ugly at the moment.
Not so bad in person. It is too early to tell how it will all go together. It's still mostly concrete.
     
     
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Changing Skyline: Can Philadelphia's new planning chief be all things to all people?
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This can't be something that was recently built, can it? With the grassy setback and fencing, it's reminiscent of those ubiquitous squat red brick buildings that dot Drexel's campus, Jefferson hospital, and to a lesser extent, Penn's campus.
     
     
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Soko Lofts Looking Likelier at Last

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It was with great enthusiasm, a little less than three years ago, that we first told you about a plan for a mixed-use project at 1300 N. 2nd St., on an enormous 2.5 acre parcel in South Kensington. This site was home to a freight yard for many years, but has sat vacant for almost a decade. Before the recession, Canus Corporation had a plan for 160 condos and 16 artist studios for the site. But that fell through. When we first wrote about the property, the developers had created a plan for Soko Lofts, a 300+ unit Piazza-like development with a handful of retail spaces and a roughly 1:2 parking ratio.

In November, the Klein Company closed on the purchase of the property and the associated plans, apparently paying $7.2M. Per Plan Philly, the project went to CDR over the summer while it was under agreement, and now it looks like it should move forward at some point in 2016.


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This can't be something that was recently built, can it? With the grassy setback and fencing, it's reminiscent of those ubiquitous squat red brick buildings that dot Drexel's campus, Jefferson hospital, and to a lesser extent, Penn's campus.
This is Hill College House, the original. It's by Eero Saarinen, designed in the 1950's. It's certainly an interesting building, but it looks and feels a bit like a prison.
     
     
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This can't be something that was recently built, can it? With the grassy setback and fencing, it's reminiscent of those ubiquitous squat red brick buildings that dot Drexel's campus, Jefferson hospital, and to a lesser extent, Penn's campus.
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This is Hill College House, the original. It's by Eero Saarinen, designed in the 1950's. It's certainly an interesting building, but it looks and feels a bit like a prison.
It's about to undergo a major $75 million renovation. And it's actually fairly significant in terms of architectural history:

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Hill College House is an internationally recognized architectural landmark. It was designed in 1958 by Eero Saarinen, who designed, among other buildings, the St. Louis Arch, the Kennedy Airport in New York and Dulles Airport in Washington, D.C. Hill's rough brick surfaces and medieval appearance, complete with "drawbridge," reflect Saarinen's rejection of the Machine Age aesthetic adopted by earlier twentieth-century architects.
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This is Hill College House, the original. It's by Eero Saarinen, designed in the 1950's. It's certainly an interesting building, but it looks and feels a bit like a prison.
yes it looks and feels somewhat like a prison which was not unintentional since it was a women's only residence. The aspects of modernism (International Style) of the first six decades of the 20th c. that is different than the modernism expressed in the new residences under construction is interesting. First notice the Saarinen building does not modulate or modify at the boundaries of the building. It looks like it was cut out of a continuum so when the exterior wall meets a corner it could just continue for infinity. There is no architectural acknowledgement of the corner boundary. This is true both in the horizontal and vertical direction. This results in the Saarinen building looking much more abstract than the one under construction. Unlike most buildings being built during the 50s it shows a Louie Kahn like interest in expressing a sense of load baring masonry(even though it has a steel frame). The fenestration is simple(alternating vertical and horizontal windows) which creates a somewhat mesmerizing effect. This is clearly a building designed by a master architect which is in contrast to the much more prosaic building now under construction.
     
     
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Is there any reason why they cant use the concourse between City Hall and Spruce for offices etc, maybe city offices and even some space for things like say art studios or yoga classes etc.

That area needs a serious road diet and more people moving about
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 3, 2016, 2:59 AM
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The history is certainly interesting. But you had to admit that such a building - if proposed today - would never fly. The aesthetics can be debated but the grassy setback and fencing has no place in an urban neighborhood. Now up until very recently, this type of fortress-like design was likely intentional in University City. Things have changed for the better, fortunately.

Glad to see that the building is undergoing a renovation but if this building is considered historically significant, then is the exterior being touched? Or is the renovation only occurring on the inside?
     
     
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Immigrants have revitalized East Camden’s shopping stretch with restaurants, stores and offices, making it one of the city’s liveliest areas.

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The history is certainly interesting. But you had to admit that such a building - if proposed today - would never fly. The aesthetics can be debated but the grassy setback and fencing has no place in an urban neighborhood. Now up until very recently, this type of fortress-like design was likely intentional in University City. Things have changed for the better, fortunately.

Glad to see that the building is undergoing a renovation but if this building is considered historically significant, then is the exterior being touched? Or is the renovation only occurring on the inside?
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Designed by Eero Saarinen in 1958, Hill College House is an internationally recognized architectural landmark located at the corner of 33rd and Walnut Streets. Originally a women's dormitory, the building's entry features an allegorical bridge over an ivy filled "moat" and its surrounding spiked metal fence. The living spaces, including five floors of double bedroom accommodates 500 students. Student lounges and seminar rooms are built around a vast central atrium that overlooks a dining area on the lower level.

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A complete building renovation is being planned to address the maintenance and system upgrades needed for a modern College House. Work will include the conversion of all bathrooms to individual restrooms and shower rooms, renovations to all bedrooms and common spaces, upgrades to MEP systems including air conditioning, and major upgrades to the central kitchen and dining areas. The building masonry envelope with be repointed and all windows will be restored. A new roof will be installed as well as new curtainwall glazing facing the central atrium.

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http://www.pennconnects.upenn.edu/find_a...d_g_to_m/hill_college_house_overview.php

So I underreported the price tag of this renovation by $5 million.

And I understand what you're saying about grassy setbacks and fencing in an urban neighborhood, but it's important to remember that this is still a 300-acre Ivy League campus, albeit an urban one. In fact, the Penn campus is much larger and, in many ways, greener and LESS urban than it was when Hill was built in the late 1950s, albeit interfacing much better with its urban neighborhood now than it did in its development from the 1950s through the 1980s or so. Still, it's a matter of balancing the more traditional and somewhat cloistered campus atmosphere of an Ivy League university with the need to seamlessly and successfully interface with its surrounding urban neighborhood. Certainly a tricky balance (and one also faced by Penn's urban peers such as Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Brown, etc.), but one which cannot be addressed purely in terms of urbanism.
     
     
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