The Canadian Electric Vehicle thread - Page 240

Wigs · #**4781** Posted **Aug 28, 2024, 5:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jaws

Canadian pricing has been released for the Cybertrucks
$138k for the dual motor
$166k for the Cyberbeast

And $22k for a range extender.

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Originally Posted by CanSpice

I know what's more stupid than both of those: the person who buys a Cybertruck.

It's one of the UGLIEST, most useless vehicles ever made.

You know it's bad when Edmunds, a top car reviewer website titles their videos like this

theman23 · #**4782** Posted **Aug 28, 2024, 6:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jaws

Canadian pricing has been released for the Cybertrucks
$138k for the dual motor
$166k for the Cyberbeast

And $22k for a range extender.

I can't decide which is more stupid, the Tesla abomination or the GM one (Hummer EV)

That's almost a straight conversion of american prices after you take into account the new federal luxury car tax. Unlike sales taxes, the vendor is responsible for paying the luxury tax so they've all just absorbed that into the MSRP.

The US dual motor was $93,900. Including the federal luxury tax the straight conversion would be $132k. The Cybertruck after conversion and luxury tax is $163k.

Wigs · #**4783** Posted **Aug 28, 2024, 6:17 PM**

One would have to be demented to pay $163,000+ for this POS

whatnext · #**4784** Posted **Aug 28, 2024, 6:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by Wigs

One would have to be demented to pay $163,000+ for this POS

Yep. I keep remembe

• Video Linkring the Throttle House episode where they exposed it many flaws, like the razor sharp edges:

theman23 · #**4785** Posted **Aug 28, 2024, 6:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by Wigs

One would have to be demented to pay $163,000+ for this POS

Its a shitty vehicle, but i'm not sure what people were expecting. High horsepower pickup trucks are luxury toys. A rivian r1t trimotor is $148k to start. The v8 f150 raptor is $162k. The only reason the Rivian is cheaper is because its exempt from the federal luxury tax (vehicles heavier than 3850 kg are exempt), which is honestly kind of unfair.

YOWetal · #**4786** Posted **Aug 28, 2024, 7:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by theman23

Its a shitty vehicle, but i'm not sure what people were expecting. High horsepower pickup trucks are luxury toys. A rivian r1t trimotor is $148k to start. The v8 f150 raptor is $162k. The only reason the Rivian is cheaper is because its exempt from the federal luxury tax (vehicles heavier than 3850 kg are exempt), which is honestly kind of unfair.

Yeah as a toy to attract attention which honestly is a big part of lots of these purchases it may succeed. I predict it might become the first EV to be stolen in any numbers. Russians and Saudis will probably love this.

Wigs · #**4787** Posted **Aug 28, 2024, 7:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by theman23

Its a shitty vehicle, but i'm not sure what people were expecting. High horsepower pickup trucks are luxury toys. A rivian r1t trimotor is $148k to start. The v8 f150 raptor is $162k. The only reason the Rivian is cheaper is because its exempt from the federal luxury tax (vehicles heavier than 3850 kg are exempt), which is honestly kind of unfair.

Rivian models look cool and get really good reviews. Cybertruck should have stayed on the drawing board.

theman23 · #**4788** Posted **Aug 28, 2024, 7:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by YOWetal

Yeah as a toy to attract attention which honestly is a big part of lots of these purchases it may succeed. I predict it might become the first EV to be stolen in any numbers. Russians and Saudis will probably love this.

Maybe. I actually saw my first Cybertruck(s) outside of the USA in Dubai a few weeks ago. Either imported or stolen since it hasn't been released there yet.

It's actually relatively small when compared to the type of vehicle most people there drive, and to be honest it came off as measly and cheap. I don't think it'll end up being very popular there.

LeftCoaster · #**4789** Posted **Aug 28, 2024, 8:44 PM**

I've seen them several times around Vancouver. They are jarring to say the least, but they sure do catch the eye.

If that's your thing it's a great car for you.

SpongeG · #**4790** Posted **Aug 29, 2024, 12:51 AM**

I only heard about this truck yesterday, the Alpha Wolf, it was based on Marty Mcfly's truck. It seems like it's most likely never going to reach production level though.

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jonny24 · #**4791** Posted **Aug 29, 2024, 1:19 PM**

^I've seen that one before. Love seeing a regular cab pickup, but if it ever does get to production I bet they bastardize it into a family hauler like what's happened to every other pickup.

Truenorth00 · #**4792** Posted **Sep 3, 2024, 8:53 PM**

94% of new car sales in Norway are now electric. And that amounts to about a quarter on the road being electric. You would think, given the fearmongering, that their grid would be falling apart. He's the impact.

https://x.com/robbie_andrew/status/1830884337069207915

WarrenC12 · #**4793** Posted **Sep 3, 2024, 9:54 PM**

Dumb question but do they have a lot of electric heat and hot water in Norway? That would partially explain the minimal impact of EVs.

1overcosc · #**4794** Posted **Sep 4, 2024, 12:32 AM**

140 twh is really high for a jurisdiction of 5 million - Ontario used about that much with 3 times the population. So my first guess is that Norway has a lot more electric heat & hot water than Ontario does.

Edit: that chart in Norway shows power generation, not consumption. Could be Norway is a big exporter of power.

Truenorth00 · #**4795** Posted **Sep 4, 2024, 1:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by 1overcosc

Edit: that chart in Norway shows power generation, not consumption. Could be Norway is a big exporter of power.

They are the Quebec of Europe when it comes to Hydro.

rdaner · #**4796** Posted **Sep 12, 2024, 2:33 AM**

Just saw in the business news that there are now so many EVs globally that it is affecting oil futures because demand is flat-lining. It’s happening!

Truenorth00 · #**4797** Posted **Sep 12, 2024, 4:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by rdaner

Just saw in the business news that there are now so many EVs globally that it is affecting oil futures because demand is flat-lining. It’s happening!

Mostly driven by China where oilbros kept arguing that demand growth wouldn't stop. And now those same Chinese companies are ramping up EV exports wherever they can.

Innsertnamehere · #**4798** Posted **Sep 12, 2024, 4:31 PM**

Europe has pretty high EV adoption as well. NA is the laggard globally.

It shouldn't be a surprise though given that the sales of gas-powered cars peaked in 2017.

Truenorth00 · #**4799** Posted **Sep 12, 2024, 4:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

Europe has pretty high EV adoption as well. NA is the laggard globally.

It shouldn't be a surprise though given that the sales of gas-powered cars peaked in 2017.

Oilbros have been telling themselves that this is all fake news or is entirely policy driven and will reverse. And of course, if you live in North America, you almost have zero clue to how quickly EV adoption is going elsewhere, so it's easy to buy into the conspiracy theories. And of course, the more recent narrative of EV sales slowing. What's really slowing is sales growth. And a lot of that doesn't apply to Chinese brands who are still growing rapidly.

WarrenC12 · #**4800** Posted **Sep 12, 2024, 4:50 PM**

Remember it didn't take a cratering of demand to kill off coal mining, just a reduction in demand over time, much like we see above.