Manitoba Highways

[esquire]

Originally Posted by WildCake

C'mon Biff, if you look past the woefutlly inadequate entry and exit lanes, Perimeter between Main Street to 59 north is a 4km strip of freeway.

That is one thing that jumped out to me during my drive to Brandon last weekend... we really do have inadequate entry and exit lanes. There is little or no room to merge on some of the ramps, which is no doubt why Manitobans have a reputation for stopping in those types of lanes instead of merging... there is often no room to safely merge.

Super low hanging fruit here when it comes to meaningful improvements.

[Biff]

Originally Posted by esquire

It would extend as far west as Pipeline Road were it not for the level railway crossing that exists just west of Main and the one or two service road access points around there.

That is exactly it here in Manitoba and Winnipeg. "It is essentially a freeway, except for:"

an access road here
and here
and here
and here
and a railway crossing here
and an access road here
and here
and here
and one stop light

.....other than that, it is a freeway.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by Biff

That is exactly it here in Manitoba and Winnipeg. "It is essentially a freeway, except for:"

an access road here
and here
and here
and here
and a railway crossing here
and an access road here
and here
and here
and one stop light

.....other than that, it is a freeway.

But in this case, 101 is legitimately a freeway from Wenzel to the CP Winnipeg Beach subdivision. The problem is that it's only a freeway for about 6.9 km...that is, to my knowledge, the only stretch of freeway in the entire provincial highway system.

[Biff]

That is sad...

[Andy6]

Maybe the bit of Highway 12 from Highway 1 to Ste. Anne.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by Andy6

Maybe the bit of Highway 12 from Highway 1 to Ste. Anne.

Yes, I checked Google Maps and there is a stretch from PR 210 to a section road just north of the TCH. That's another 5.1 km. There is a median crossing partway through but in keeping with Biff's comment we'll exclude that from our calculation

I suppose there might be a few other similar stretches between two interchanges that might also fit the bill. Maybe the west Perimeter from somewhere south of Wilkes to Portage or beyond now that they've cut off some of the local road access points?

[Dengler Avenue]

I didn't mean to start a war...
I just used the term divided freeway by mistake. I meant divided highways...

[Dengler Avenue]

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?m...j0&usp=sharing

Check it out. I've gotten everything covered (all 1964 km), including Winnipeg's cottage countries.
It probably won't happen even in my lifetime, but at least I can say that I've been there and done that.
Ps: To make sure that the routes make topological sense, I've probably traced ~1000 km of Google Street View.

[harls]

Originally Posted by WildCake

C'mon Biff, if you look past the woefutlly inadequate entry and exit lanes, Perimeter between Main Street to 59 north is a 4km strip of freeway.

I always collected a Manitoba highways map, hoping that this year at least part of the perimeter would be blue, so we could play with the big boys.

[Dengler Avenue]

Originally Posted by harls

I always collected a Manitoba highways map, hoping that this year at least part of the perimeter would be blue, so we could play with the big boys.

And maybe TCH from Falcon Lake to Welcome to Ontario sign?
(Yea because of that, I talk about ON-17 here every so often.)
Check out the map in my signature.

[Wpgstvsouth94]

Has anyone driven around the hwy 12 & #1 interchange? The loop ramps and exit ramps that were just paved are full of sink holes and ripples.. the condition of some of them were better when it was concrete. It would be nice to get someone else’s opinion on this. Will they go back and add another layer of asphalt?

[rrskylar]

Back from an overnight trip to Brandon, the TCH coming back east is under construction and paving for half the way in typical Manitoba haphazard form, stripping asphalt and replacing the east bound lanes and trying to keep traffic flowing on the same side which is ridiculous. I’ve travelled all over NA and usually see one side of the road closed where they are working with traffic rerouted to the opposite side for this kind of work!

Can’t believe that in 2020 the TCH in Manitoba still has so many stops for traffic signals, at the Yellowhead and Elie should have been upgraded with overpasses 25 years ago!

The Portage bypass still a joke with one overpass still missing one lane with a huge section of concrete missing for that perfect Moldavian look!

Caught all five lights through Headingly before I could get onto the Perimeter and Canada Way, must be great for truckers in our so called trucking capital of Canada!

End of rant!

[optimusREIM]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

Back from an overnight trip to Brandon, the TCH coming back east is under construction and paving for half the way in typical Manitoba haphazard form, stripping asphalt and replacing the east bound lanes and trying to keep traffic flowing on the same side which is ridiculous. I’ve travelled all over NA and usually see one side of the road closed where they are working with traffic rerouted to the opposite side for this kind of work!

Can’t believe that in 2020 the TCH in Manitoba still has so many stops for traffic signals, at the Yellowhead and Elie should have been upgraded with overpasses 25 years ago!

The Portage bypass still a joke with one overpass still missing one lane with a huge section of concrete missing for that perfect Moldavian look!

Caught all five lights through Headingly before I could get onto the Perimeter and Canada Way, must be great for truckers in our so called trucking capital of Canada!

End of rant!

Honestly. It's not acceptable, and hasn't been since 1960

[bomberjet]

Just need money. Get the money and issues like Headingley will be solved.

[esquire]

I drove that stretch between Brandon and Winnipeg a couple of times this summer and I had pretty well the same thoughts as rrskylar. I can live with our substandard highways but can we at least get the TCH right? Headingley is a disaster, the Portage Bypass is inadequate, the traffic lights where there should be interchanges are treacherous... it's bizarre.

There is so much traffic on the TCH between Winnipeg and Portage now that the day where we need 6 lanes for at least part of it can't be that far off either. But how will that happen when the fundamental stuff that should have been done in the 80s still hasn't been done?

[Spocket]

Originally Posted by esquire

Doesn't the North Perimeter from Wenzel Rd to Main Street meet the standards of a freeway? It would extend as far west as Pipeline Road were it not for the level railway crossing that exists just west of Main and the one or two service road access points around there.

It might now assuming they got rid of the level crossing with the new pathway and bridge but otherwise only to just west of Main. Technically, however, the only roadway officially classified as a freeway in Manitoba is the Disraeli.

[bomberjet]

And Disraeli really is substandard as freeway with the exit in the middle. The exit/merge lanes don't allow you to gather speed. Maybe not for the 60 km/h speed on the freeway lol

Is Portage Bypass really that substandard? Beyond the damaged bridge that is being replaced and then the grade crossing of course. Otherwise I thought it was fine. And the only freeway esque piece of the TCH. One interchange and it would be solved and be a freeway.

[cheswick]

I just drove the TCH to Montreal and back. I think you people complain too much (and I have to quarantine for two weeks despite Manitoba having more cases per capita than either of those provinces, but I digress).

[esquire]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

Is Portage Bypass really that substandard? Beyond the damaged bridge that is being replaced and then the grade crossing of course. Otherwise I thought it was fine. And the only freeway esque piece of the TCH. One interchange and it would be solved and be a freeway.

It seems that one of the east/west ends of the Bypass has damage at any given point... the bridge at the west end that has been broken for years is embarrassing. And the busy intersection near the Days Inn is treacherous.

[jmt18325]

Originally Posted by esquire

It seems that one of the east/west ends of the Bypass has damage at any given point... the bridge at the west end that has been broken for years is embarrassing.

It wasn't thought feasible to fix it, as it was near the end of life, and was being redesigned from what I understand.

I agree that one interchange would fix the bypass.