NEW YORK | 432 Park Avenue (Drake Hotel dev.) | (1,396) FT / 432 M | 89 FLOORS - Page 24

colemonkee · #**461** Posted **Aug 24, 2011, 8:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by RobertWalpole

It does not have to do with the facade per se.

I'm guessing it's either subtle cutaways or outcroppings similar to the Saya or Trump SoHo, or perhaps slight offsets in sections of the massing, ala City of Capitals in Moscow, that wouldn't necessarily affect a massing model.

Robert, how close - or far - am I?

RobertWalpole · #**462** Posted **Aug 24, 2011, 8:49 PM**

Not quite, but good guess!

Dac150 · #**463** Posted **Aug 24, 2011, 8:56 PM**

Anything to do with lighting?

Mr. Lion · #**464** Posted **Aug 24, 2011, 9:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by RobertWalpole

Not quite, but good guess!

Throw us a bone for gods sake.

RobertWalpole · #**465** Posted **Aug 24, 2011, 9:01 PM**

I'm feeling kind of Cuban.

scalziand · #**466** Posted **Aug 24, 2011, 9:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by JayPro

To be honest, something of that massing and height without the top would be quite nice. I like the cliff-like extensions (technical term pls?) along the sides.

Cornices..

Mr. Lion · #**467** Posted **Aug 24, 2011, 9:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by RobertWalpole

I'm feeling kind of Cuban.

Idk

. You could just tell us...

colemonkee · #**468** Posted **Aug 24, 2011, 9:05 PM**

Part of me actually enjoys this game. The masochist part.

Loqy Lion · #**469** Posted **Aug 24, 2011, 9:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by RobertWalpole

I'm feeling kind of Cuban.

Dallas Mavericks World HQs at the bottom.

Loqy Lion · #**470** Posted **Aug 24, 2011, 9:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by RobertWalpole

I'm feeling kind of Cuban.

Shaped like a cigar?

JayPro · #**471** Posted **Aug 24, 2011, 9:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by Loqy Lion

Dallas Mavericks World HQs at the bottom.

Kinda Cuban(??!!!??!).....

Auuuuughhhhhhhh!!!!!!....................

RobertWalpole · #**472** Posted **Aug 24, 2011, 9:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by Loqy Lion

Shaped like a cigar?

No. It's a square from the first residential floor to the top floor.

That cigar line made me think of Clinton and Lewinski!

I don't want to clog this thread with replies to wrong guesses, so if I don't reply, please take no offense.

tyleraf · #**473** Posted **Aug 24, 2011, 9:34 PM**

Is it something similar to Aqua?

Zapatan · #**474** Posted **Aug 24, 2011, 11:28 PM**

So what we have so far is that it IS a box, with a nice facade, and about 13-1400 feet in height to a flat roof, maybe a crown.

If this building gets built I may need a new pair of pants, just thought I'd let you all know that.

uaarkson · #**475** Posted **Aug 24, 2011, 11:32 PM**

I don't understand why you can't just tell us. Are you gonna get arrested if you do?

RobertWalpole · #**476** Posted **Aug 24, 2011, 11:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dac150

Sounds to me like you qualify the backing of a tall building for the appearance factor rather than legitimate demand. Whatever height this particular project turns out to be will be qualified by demand, not because the developer feels the city ‘deserves’ a tall building.

The concept of building tall is severely misconstrued by many here. You build based on demand.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zapatan

So what we have so far is that it IS a box, with a nice facade, and about 13-1400 feet in height to a flat roof, maybe a crown.

If this building gets built I may need a new pair of pants, just thought I'd let you all know that.

No crown sadly.

Loqy Lion · #**477** Posted **Aug 25, 2011, 12:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by uaarkson

I don't understand why you can't just tell us. Are you gonna get arrested if you do?

Worse. KGB.

UrbanImpact · #**478** Posted **Aug 25, 2011, 12:55 AM**

I enjoy getting updated and enjoy some of the jokes...........but I also admire Skyscraperpage being more mature and informative than Skyscrapercity. Let's not turn it into that

Loqy Lion · #**479** Posted **Aug 25, 2011, 1:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by UrbanImpact

I enjoy getting updated and enjoy some of the jokes...........but I also admire Skyscraperpage being more mature and informative than Skyscrapercity. Let's not turn it into that

Intelligent levity never hurt nobody.

NYguy · #**480** Posted **Aug 25, 2011, 2:54 AM**

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Originally Posted by Zapatan

Visually interesting is always nice, but to me, being tall is what makes it visually interesting in the first place

I think if you're on a "skyscraper" forum, you would agree with that, to an extent at least.

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Like I said, NY has PLENTY of interesting architecture, I will take a moderately well desinged 1400 foot tower over a gorgeous 800 foot tower any day simply because NY already has/will have plenty of the latter.

Towers of this (potential) height usually aren't the best architecture, though there are some nice ones out there. In the end, it is the scale that wil be most noteworthy for this tower.