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Old Posted Sep 13, 2013, 6:30 PM
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Alberta is close. Limited access on Hwy 1 except at Medicine Hat and Strathmore. When the north eastern arc of Edmonton's ring road opens, Hwy 16 will only have a small number of at grade crossings.
The Province of Alberta has plans to make the Trans-Canada Highway limited access, from Calgary, right up to the Saskatchewan border. This will not be completed for at least 20 years, but it should be interesting when it is finished.
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Alberta is close. Limited access on Hwy 1 except at Medicine Hat and Strathmore. When the north eastern arc of Edmonton's ring road opens, Hwy 16 will only have a small number of at grade crossings.
Really? I can think of hundreds of at grade crossings on the #1 all the way from Sask to that goofy stop light between Chestermere and the Stony Trail on ramp.
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Old Posted Sep 13, 2013, 6:47 PM
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Well what's his definition of freeway? Doesn't the Perimeter Highway around Winnipeg have limited access sections? I'm sure it has a longer limited-access section than Regina's Ring Road which is actually fairly short relatively speaking.
There are no totally limited access stretches of road on the Perimeter. The closest thing to one right now is on PTH 101 between 59 and 8, but even then you have a couple of at-grade railway crossings and a couple of minor service road entrances. It's about a 10 km stretch.

I suppose the stretch of 100/101 from Roblin Blvd. to Inkster Blvd. will soon surpass that once the CentrePort Canada Way interchange opens sometime next year, pretty much the entire 20 km or so western segment of the Perimeter from PTH 6 to PTH 2/3 will be sort-of limited access, except for a few minor farm road crossings.

If two interchanges were built to replace the traffic lights at the intersections of the Perimeter and PTH 6 as well as that of the Perimeter and Pipeline Road, then effectively half of the Perimeter would be full-on expressway with no traffic lights, although there would still be a couple of minor railway crossings and a number of service road/sectional road crossings.
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It was put in to help with residential traffic coming out of All Seasons on Headmaster.
I grew up in the area. "All Seasons" is the 1980s development in and around Sun Valley Drive. "Algonquin Estates" is the development 1980-2000s development on and adjacent to Ragsdill Drive. I am unaware on any name for the development around the eastern section of Headmaster Row.

Over at Arrowwood Plaza, KELMAR Meat and KELMAR Bakery are celebrating their 1st Anniversary and Grand Opening respectively. Tomorrow (Saturday September 14) they are giving out free BBQ, plate samplings , birthday cake, and door prizes between 11am and 5pm.
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I wonder what the overall cost would be to upgrade the entire Perimeter to urban freeway standards? Light, median barriers where necessary, interchanges/intersection closings, railway grade separations... Would we be talking over a billion?
IMO, it's well past the point where it's a "nice to have" freeway upgrade like one could argue that the inner ring road would be. The Perimeter is sketchy at the best of times, and downright dangerous on bad days. People shouldn't be able to make a left turn where there isn't even an turn lane for it.
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Another problem is the access to Raleigh Street form the Perimeter. There is plans to put a AT bridge (similar to the one on CPT @ Gateway). Another $7-15mil wasted on a pedestrian bridge. 2/3 plans also butcher any future possibility of a Raleigh Street flyover.

Yet we still have that unsafe abomination of a intersection/incomplete interchange at 59/Perimeter.

Priorities Winnipeg... Priorities.
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2013, 7:52 PM
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Another problem is the access to Raleigh Street form the Perimeter. There is plans to put a AT bridge (similar to the one on CPT @ Gateway). Another $7-15mil wasted on a pedestrian bridge. 2/3 plans also butcher any future possibility of a Raleigh Street flyover.

Yet we still have that unsafe abomination of a intersection/incomplete interchange at 59/Perimeter.

Priorities Winnipeg... Priorities.
Given how busy it is as a cycling corridor, I'd suggest that it is possible that not having the AT bridge is potentially more dangerous than not finishing 59/101.

Not saying that finishing the interchange shouldn't be a high priority, but an AT bridge over the Perimeter should be one as well.
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Another problem is the access to Raleigh Street form the Perimeter. There is plans to put a AT bridge (similar to the one on CPT @ Gateway). Another $7-15mil wasted on a pedestrian bridge. 2/3 plans also butcher any future possibility of a Raleigh Street flyover.

Yet we still have that unsafe abomination of a intersection/incomplete interchange at 59/Perimeter.

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Neither of those projects are in Winnipeg. They're both in East St. Paul and under provincial jurisdiction.
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I can't understand why the city didn't just upgrade Knowles Avenue instead, since it already intersects Lagimodiere from the east, just a block north of Headmaster.
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The Province of Alberta has plans to make the Trans-Canada Highway limited access, from Calgary, right up to the Saskatchewan border. This will not be completed for at least 20 years, but it should be interesting when it is finished.
Source Please? I would be very excited to see this happen!
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I can't understand why the city didn't just upgrade Knowles Avenue instead, since it already intersects Lagimodiere from the east, just a block north of Headmaster.
The plan is to close the access of Knowles on the east side of Lagimodiere. They will extend Headmaster east through a parcel of empty land about 2 or 3 houses in behind Knowles and connect it to Knowles via an empty lot. This will utilize the signalized headmaster intersection.
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Just heard on the radio that the Pinkie Rd - TCH overpass opens today.

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Like this.
That is exactly it. Hard to describe in words.
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Hey guys

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Some questions/comments about future interchanges and grade separations in the Winnipeg area:

1) Lagimodiere/North perimeter interchange…information found on Manitoba website indicates construction timeline as commencing 2014, completion 2017. Can anyone verify if this timeline is still accurate? Or has this project been delayed? It seems to me some parts of the project plan are being implemented (access changes to Lagimodiere south of intersection being one example)…so hopefully this is indication that this long-awaited interchange is still a go.

2) After Lag/north perimeter interchange is completed, does anybody know what the next planned perimeter interchange will be? Three main three areas of concern IMO are McGillvary, St. Marys, and Dugald (this tops my personal list as currently Transcona commuters heading south around city have no means to bypass a train on CN mainline).

3) Looking east of Bishop/Lag intersection, it looks like preliminary work has begun on Bishop extension east to Fermor. My understanding was that this project was still years off, does anybody know if this has been fast-tracked? If so, that’s fantastic, and I can only assume that plan is to connect Bishop at Fermor with the future re-alignment of Plessis as part of inner-city beltway system. My hope is that when this extension is done, it’s not done on the cheap, but done the right way with interchanges at both Bishop/Lag and Bishop/Fermor. Is announcement of grade separation at Bishop/Kenaston an indication that the city is committed to improvement of traffic flow (at least at major intersections) on this inner city beltway system?
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2013, 4:46 AM
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Just heard on the radio that the Pinkie Rd - TCH overpass opens today.

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Yup went and used it yesterday.. Was glorious! Just a few odds and ends to clean up, and then lighting I would expect soon (next year) but also good news is they were really working hard on the new roadbed north of the TCH towards Dewdney. So hopefully they have a good majority of the work done before the snow flies.
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Hey guys

Longtime lurker, first time poster.

Some questions/comments about future interchanges and grade separations in the Winnipeg area:

1) Lagimodiere/North perimeter interchange…information found on Manitoba website indicates construction timeline as commencing 2014, completion 2017. Can anyone verify if this timeline is still accurate? Or has this project been delayed? It seems to me some parts of the project plan are being implemented (access changes to Lagimodiere south of intersection being one example)…so hopefully this is indication that this long-awaited interchange is still a go.

Delayed pending funding agreement with the Fed's. Hopeful to start 2015.

2) After Lag/north perimeter interchange is completed, does anybody know what the next planned perimeter interchange will be? Three main three areas of concern IMO are McGillvary, St. Marys, and Dugald (this tops my personal list as currently Transcona commuters heading south around city have no means to bypass a train on CN mainline).

Dugald is definitely down the list of possible grade separations. They just completed the new "3"lane bridge and had an already built in detour to work with and didn't do it. My bets would be with a south Perimeter intersection being next, likely St Mary's Rd.

3) Looking east of Bishop/Lag intersection, it looks like preliminary work has begun on Bishop extension east to Fermor. My understanding was that this project was still years off, does anybody know if this has been fast-tracked? If so, that’s fantastic, and I can only assume that plan is to connect Bishop at Fermor with the future re-alignment of Plessis as part of inner-city beltway system. My hope is that when this extension is done, it’s not done on the cheap, but done the right way with interchanges at both Bishop/Lag and Bishop/Fermor. Is announcement of grade separation at Bishop/Kenaston an indication that the city is committed to improvement of traffic flow (at least at major intersections) on this inner city beltway system?

This extension is pretty far off from what i have been told, but things seem to be changing at random.
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Longtime lurker, first time poster.

Some questions/comments about future interchanges and grade separations in the Winnipeg area:

1) Lagimodiere/North perimeter interchange [edit]

2) After Lag/north perimeter interchange is completed, does anybody know what the next planned perimeter interchange will be? Three main three areas of concern IMO are McGillvary, St. Marys, and Dugald (this tops my personal list as currently Transcona commuters heading south around city have no means to bypass a train on CN mainline).
After Lag I think the 2/3 intersection south of McGilvary is the top priority followed by HWY 6. HWY 6 might not seem important but the CentrePort plan calls for HWY 6 to be extended south and basically merge with the norht/south portion of Sturgeon Rd. In terms of the pull of CentrePort look no further than the Saskatchewan Ave/CentrePort Canada Way interchange that was built ahead of even Lag/North Perimeter.

I heard they were trying to find a way to build one full interchange that would server both St Marys and St Annes that would eliminated both signaled crossings, it might include an east/west access road, one interchange and one overpass with no left turns. An interchange at Dugald though seems like a long shot, as it didn't look like there was enough space when they they were construction the north Perimeter completion link, it is likely a lower priority right now than even Pipeline and the Perimeter or the speculated Gateway/Perimeter crossing.

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3) Looking east of Bishop/Lag intersection, it looks like preliminary work has begun on Bishop extension east to Fermor. My understanding was that this project was still years off, does anybody know if this has been fast-tracked? If so, that’s fantastic, and I can only assume that plan is to connect Bishop at Fermor with the future re-alignment of Plessis as part of inner-city beltway system. My hope is that when this extension is done, it’s not done on the cheap, but done the right way with interchanges at both Bishop/Lag and Bishop/Fermor. Is announcement of grade separation at Bishop/Kenaston an indication that the city is committed to improvement of traffic flow (at least at major intersections) on this inner city beltway system?
In terms of priority projects in the city for new major roads the next few years on focused on the fastest growing areas of the city aka the north west, north east and Waverly West. The west extension of Bishop, the south extension of Kenaston (both with will eventually meeet the Perimter), the west to CentrePort extension of Cheif Peagus Trail are all near term projects. After that the north/south road in Transcona which may be a Plessis overhaul, and Cheif Peagus from Lag to "Plessis" are the focus projects. In terms of interchanges inside the Perimiter, Bishop/Kenaston is likely top priority as work has already been done there. Lag/Regent is also very high on the wish list. As for Bishop/Fermor, not sure the plan there but it would not surprise me if they did something to just resue the Fermor/Plessis interchange in place of a new Bishop/Fermor one. Bishop/St Marys is also likely ahead of Bishop/Lag. Basically the inner priority routes are likely to be Chief Peagus, Bishop, Lag and Kenaston, any intersection those have is fair game for an interchange or being closed (ie Renders, River, Pipeline, Tayor, etc).
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The work going on at the east Bishop location seems to be the developer scraping the topsoil. They technically own it, not the city. So they're getting whatever money/product they can out of there before it's turned over to the city.
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In terms of priority projects in the city for new major roads the next few years on focused on the fastest growing areas of the city aka the north west, north east and Waverly West.
This caught my eye : The northwest and north east are the two slowest-growing quadrants of the city. It's been that way for decades and nothing has changed.

The southwest and the southeast outstrip growth in the northern half of the city by an order of magnitude. While growth has picked up in the north , unless you're going outside of the city (which has also seen a slowdown in the north) The only high-growth area , really , is the industrial at the far north-western edge where the CCW is being built to accommodate increased industrial traffic.

The only reason the northern half of the city is getting any roadwork attention is because it's been so long since upgrades were made. It took decades just to get the CPT to run through the corridor set aside for it several decades ago.
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