Hwy 99 Fraser River Tunnel (George Massey Replacement) | Proposed

[mattropolis]

What a creepy website.


I don't think so Kenneth!

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by flipper316

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/george-massey-bridge-replacement-ian-black-bc-conservatives

Good lord, just build the damn tunnel and get it over with. This thing is turning into the F-35 of infrastructure. And the Sir John A Macdonald anything? That just reinforces the public's negative image of the BC Cons.

BC Conservative leader candidate proposes reviving 10-lane George Massey bridge project as the 'Sir John A. Macdonald Gateway'

As part of his pitch to become the new leader of the Conservative Party of British Columbia, Iain Black is calling for the cancellation of the BC NDP-led provincial government’s eight-lane George Massey Tunnel replacement project and the revival of the BC Liberals’ original plans to build a new 10-lane bridge project....

[Migrant_Coconut]

Doesn't he mean the "Joseph Trutch Memorial Freedom No-vax End The Woke Bridge?"

[RedArbutus]

What a joke.

[Repthe250]

This province is so mismanaged. Everything is used as political leverage. Nothing ever gets done on time, to its full potential, or even at all, at 100% fault of the government. Every. Single. Time.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by Repthe250

This province is so mismanaged. Everything is used as political leverage. Nothing ever gets done on time, to its full potential, or even at all, at 100% fault of the government. Every. Single. Time.

Ontario's government is thinking about blowing $60-100 billion on a highway tunnel, one which almost nobody thinks will solve congestion at all. Their current tram lines have been either under construction for a decade, stopped and restarted after each election, or finally finished just to be slower than a feeder bus.

These projects are funded by a budget that's almost 3x BC's... and also by the equalization money that goes out of this province's revenue, into federal spending, and then into their revenue. The only difference between us and them is that one province has both a larger tax base and Ottawa's favour.

[libtard]

Originally Posted by mattropolis

What a creepy website.


I don't think so Kenneth!

Nice try Kenneth!

[Repthe250]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Ontario's government is thinking about blowing $60-100 billion on a highway tunnel, one which almost nobody thinks will solve congestion at all. Their current tram lines have been either under construction for a decade, stopped and restarted after each election, or finally finished just to be slower than a feeder bus.

These projects are funded by a budget that's almost 3x BC's... and also by the equalization money that goes out of this province's revenue, into federal spending, and then into their revenue. The only difference between us and them is that one province has both a larger tax base and Ottawa's favour.

At least Ontario is putting ideas on the table, moving forward, progressing towards the future. BC is doing the complete and exact opposite. In every single way.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by Repthe250

At least Ontario is putting ideas on the table...

Literally what the bridge and the tunnel are. We already have the ideas. We don't have the money for them.

[Sheba]

At least we don't have this to deal with... Musk underground Las Vegas tunnels face scrutiny over safety, environmental concerns
Elon Musk's “Vegas Loop,” an underground transit system of private tunnels, is facing scrutiny from Nevada lawmakers after years of complaints about workplace safety and alleged violations

The Boring Company has been accused of breaking multiple safety and environmental rules. Between 2020 and 2026, 17 complaints were filed with the Nevada State Occupational Safety and Health Administration. Last year ProPublica reported the company was accused of nearly 800 environmental violations for its Las Vegas project.

[jollyburger]

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[flipper316]

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/george-massey-tunnel-new-replacement-potential-cost-increase

[whatnext]

From BIV today. Quite frankly this project shows off everything traditionally bad with the NDP and big infrastructure projects:

Rob Shaw: George Massey tunnel past 'point of no return' and past old price tag
Transportation minister cagey about $4.1B cost estimate, 2030 timeline for eight-lane tunnel
Rob Shaw
Feb 27, 2026 1:00 PM

The George Massey tunnel project will cost more to build and take longer to construct than the government originally promised.

Nobody, officially, is going to say that out loud. But the conclusion is inescapable after reading the provincial budget and listening to the transportation minister on the subject.

The official price tag on the project remains $4.15 billion, a figure set back in 2021 that nobody believes to be accurate anymore. Even the government.

“The tunnel project is in design, and the estimated cost of the project is being updated and reviewed as the design and contract negotiations progress,” read last week’s budget document.

It’s a bit cryptic. So allow me to translate that for you: the budget is blown....

Read more:
https://www.biv.com/news/rob-shaw-george...o-return-and-past-old-price-tag-11935097

[surrey]

Originally Posted by whatnext

From BIV today. Quite frankly this project shows off everything traditionally bad with the NDP and big infrastructure projects:

Rob Shaw: George Massey tunnel past 'point of no return' and past old price tag
Transportation minister cagey about $4.1B cost estimate, 2030 timeline for eight-lane tunnel
Rob Shaw
Feb 27, 2026 1:00 PM

The George Massey tunnel project will cost more to build and take longer to construct than the government originally promised.

Nobody, officially, is going to say that out loud. But the conclusion is inescapable after reading the provincial budget and listening to the transportation minister on the subject.

The official price tag on the project remains $4.15 billion, a figure set back in 2021 that nobody believes to be accurate anymore. Even the government.

“The tunnel project is in design, and the estimated cost of the project is being updated and reviewed as the design and contract negotiations progress,” read last week’s budget document.

It’s a bit cryptic. So allow me to translate that for you: the budget is blown....

Read more:
https://www.biv.com/news/rob-shaw-george...o-return-and-past-old-price-tag-11935097

The surrey langley skytrain had an original budget around 4 billion pre covid ....then it ballooned to 6 billion once construction started. This tunnel will be similar...it will end up costing 6 billion. I appreciate the fact that NDP invests in infrastructure but they are the worst money managers i've even seen. No cost controls whatsoever...if they stay in power for a long period they are going to bankrupt this province with their delusional policies.

[mcj]

Originally Posted by surrey

The surrey langley skytrain had an original budget around 4 billion pre covid ....then it ballooned to 6 billion once construction started. This tunnel will be similar...it will end up costing 6 billion. I appreciate the fact that NDP invests in infrastructure but they are the worst money managers i've even seen. No cost controls whatsoever...if they stay in power for a long period they are going to bankrupt this province with their delusional policies.

All of the other Provinces, mostly governed by conservatives, are also seeing similar budget inflation. We've been undergoing crazy inflation since Covid, none of this should be a surprise to anyone, yet somehow people like you expect them to stick to a pre-covid estimate

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by surrey

The surrey langley skytrain had an original budget around 4 billion pre covid ....then it ballooned to 6 billion once construction started. This tunnel will be similar...it will end up costing 6 billion. I appreciate the fact that NDP invests in infrastructure but they are the worst money managers i've even seen. No cost controls whatsoever...if they stay in power for a long period they are going to bankrupt this province with their delusional policies.

The Newton Community Centre was estimated to cost $100m in 2022 when it was announced, for completion in late 2024 or early 2025. There was even a groundbreaking ceremony. Then the new mayor chose to move the site, and change the design, and it will now cost an estimated $310.6m, although there was a warning last year that it was likely that it might cost more.

In Burnaby, five major projects are currently $281 million over their original estimated budget, based on documents provided by city staff to council earlier this year.

Changes, cost inflation and delays are increasing costs on projects everywhere, irrespective of what party controls the municipality, or province

[surrey]

Originally Posted by Changing City

The Newton Community Centre was estimated to cost $100m in 2022 when it was announced, for completion in late 2024 or early 2025. There was even a groundbreaking ceremony. Then the new mayor chose to move the site, and change the design, and it will now cost an estimated $310.6m, although there was a warning last year that it was likely that it might cost more.

In Burnaby, five major projects are currently $281 million over their original estimated budget, based on documents provided by city staff to council earlier this year.

Changes, cost inflation and delays are increasing costs on projects everywhere, irrespective of what party controls the municipality, or province

this project was ready to go in 2017.... NDP scrapped it.....here we are 9 years later and they are still on the assessment and design phase.....beyond ridiculous. It should have been built by now for 2-3 billion dollars....instead we have to wait until 2030+ and piss away billions extra in tax dollars. Other projects like surrey langley skytrain I will cut them some slack because that project is at least moving fast and they took the initiative to build the entire line all at once. This project however has been a complete disaster in mismanagement.

The surrey rec center for 100$ million was only phase one, total cost was going to be around 200$ million.. now it is 300 million.

[Ozabald]

Originally Posted by surrey

this project was ready to go in 2017.... NDP scrapped it.....here we are 9 years later and they are still on the assessment and design phase.....beyond ridiculous. It should have been built by now for 2-3 billion dollars....instead we have to wait until 2030+ and piss away billions extra in tax dollars. Other projects like surrey langley skytrain I will cut them some slack because that project is at least moving fast and they took the initiative to build the entire line all at once. This project however has been a complete disaster in mismanagement.

The surrey rec center for 100$ million was only phase one, total cost was going to be around 200$ million.. now it is 300 million.

Given the track record of the Massey tunnel replacement, the Canucks will likely win the Stanley Cup before a new tunnel or bridge is ever constructed.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by mcj

All of the other Provinces, mostly governed by conservatives, are also seeing similar budget inflation. We've been undergoing crazy inflation since Covid, none of this should be a surprise to anyone, yet somehow people like you expect them to stick to a pre-covid estimate

But Farnworth is playing footsie over timelines and previously Fleming, as the article says, was adamant the budget was set. Add to that the the bridge cancellation with attendant delays and it is a sorry record.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by surrey

this project was ready to go in 2017.... NDP scrapped it.....here we are 9 years later and they are still on the assessment and design phase.....beyond ridiculous. It should have been built by now for 2-3 billion dollars....instead we have to wait until 2030+ and piss away billions extra in tax dollars...

Think it's a North American thing. Toronto's Eglinton Line was supposed to be $4.6 billion and done by 2020; now it's 2026, the final price tag is $12.8 billion, and they're still waiting on another segment.