ATLANTA | Development Thread V

[ATL_J]

Originally Posted by delarosa

I'd share a similar concern, though wonder if the increased space doesn't at least partially offset some of the existing congestion (assuming some of it as public/pay space). Seems as though, on a busy night, most people around there have driven and those blocks end up being a mess as people are indecisive and erratic as they seek parking, turn in and out of the surface lot right next to the Highland-Elizabeth intersection, and the streets end up a lot more congested. I do cycle there, but imo it's a little hazardous.

Does seem like it will net more cars in the area, but wonder if the facility and some reconfiguration (like say reducing street parking on Elizabeth, removal of the parking at the intersection, etc) wouldn't possibly make it a little less congested. Likely wishful thinking, but...

I've lived in the area for quite some time and I'm often out in that area and I've never particularly had a problem with the congestion. Yes, it does get crowded, but I wouldn't say to a point where it becomes a problem. Any healthy area where a lot of desirable restaurants and residences are located should have a certain level of congestion I would think.

Currently I feel those places serve the neighborhood well and people driving into the area often park along the neighborhood roads as I feel it should be. It increases foot traffic and adds to the vibrancy of the neighborhood. Building a huge deck in an already crowded area with massive amount of parking spaces is encouraging people to drive to the heart of the area instead of say parking along N. Highland or Austin.

Part of Atlanta's traffic problems are we build to accommodate the car, which I feel this deck is doing. It is clearly catering to the car. I understand the need to have some parking, but we should be building to encourage other forms of transportation such as walking, the future bike trails and transit along the Beltline, and the MARTA station about half a mile away. If parking is difficult then other forms of transportation become very appealing.

[trainiac]

Originally Posted by ATL_J

Trainiac,

What was the reaction of the plan by the neighbors at the meeting?

What are you opinions?

Hah! I'm all for it -- and I lived through the entire 20+ acre Mead Plant transformation adjacent to this property. Yes: cars, cars, cars came up a lot but I walk there so not a big issue for me. The most vocal complaints are folks that bought high-floor units in IPV that face east as it would change their view. Hopefully the defeat of that lawsuit about the "Twelve" building will moot this point.

My biggest worry is the future of Dad's Garage and Victory Sandwich: two places that I think really define what I like about this hood. Yeah, we're gonna be the Royal Beltline Neighborhood for the first couple of years

[shivtim]

Just posted a ginormous photo tour of Peachtree Street, if any Atlanta forumers are interested:

*removed link*

[simms3_redux]

Originally Posted by shivtim

Just posted a ginormous photo tour of Peachtree Street, if any Atlanta forumers are interested:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=199459

I appreciate the effort (that must have taken forever to edit and post all those pics!), but to be very honest...it's wayyyy too many pictures. People's computers are going to go into meltdown and nobody is going to go past the first few because you started your thread with street/surface parking pictures and you don't get to anything interesting until about 50-100 pics in. Too much. Pick your favorite shots and be sure to include lots of people shots or comments are going to trend negative. Don't show pictures of ugly govt buildings, streets, broken/empty sidewalks, or surface parking.

[ChadK]

Originally Posted by ATL_J

If parking is difficult then other forms of transportation become very appealing.

I'm all for the deck. It's well hidden and will serve as parking for not only the new building, but for the other establishments on Highland. If it were say Skyhouse 3 that would be another matter.

I don't think we should encourage public transportation by making parking insufferable. The reality is that not everyone is going to get on a train, streetcar, bike or walk... they just won't come. The businesses in the area shouldn't suffer because of that.

[shivtim]

Originally Posted by simms3_redux

I appreciate the effort (that must have taken forever to edit and post all those pics!), but to be very honest...it's wayyyy too many pictures. People's computers are going to go into meltdown and nobody is going to go past the first few because you started your thread with street/surface parking pictures and you don't get to anything interesting until about 50-100 pics in. Too much. Pick your favorite shots and be sure to include lots of people shots or comments are going to trend negative. Don't show pictures of ugly govt buildings, streets, broken/empty sidewalks, or surface parking.

Thanks for the feedback, but my intention was to document ALL of Peachtree Street. They're not supposed to be good pictures, the point was just to show everything. I know it will have a limited audience. It's more for my own enjoyment. I've done other photo threads where I only select my favorite shots. I think the thread shows the street for how it really is - some parts of Peachtree deserve negative feedback, because there are no pedestrians or the buildings present blank streetwalls. No selective editing here.

Would it be useful to post a new thread with just 30 of my faves? I'm not even sure if that is allowed by forum rules. Probably nobody would care.

[simms3_redux]

Originally Posted by aajn1983

Originally Posted by mhays

Yes, long planned and finally back. The current wave is all in the 24-story range and shorter, so this will (actually might *) be the first fairly tall one in this wave. About 360 units and 260 parking spaces. Small site only a little bit larger than the tower floorplates. Part of a growing residential/hotel cluster just east of the main Retail Core.

* Phase 1 of the Insignia Condos at 5th & Battery was also leaked/rumored to be starting around this month at the same 40-story, 440' height. This would be the first condo in a long time, made possible by in-house financing and not preselling, meaning they can get 2014/5 prices rather than 2012 prices, or inactivity.

This is product planned/going up in Seattle (en masse). Obviously they are a little more advanced over there as they don't require more than 1 space per unit and buildings are built to the street.

[eddie21]

"Would it be useful to post a new thread with just 30 of my faves? I'm not even sure if that is allowed by forum rules. Probably nobody would care."

I love your dedication but the thread is way too big. My computer crashed and had to restore itself. Looking forward to your edited thread in the future though.

[L41A]

Originally Posted by shivtim

Thanks for the feedback, but my intention was to document ALL of Peachtree Street. They're not supposed to be good pictures, the point was just to show everything. I know it will have a limited audience. It's more for my own enjoyment. I've done other photo threads where I only select my favorite shots. I think the thread shows the street for how it really is - some parts of Peachtree deserve negative feedback, because there are no pedestrians or the buildings present blank streetwalls. No selective editing here.

Would it be useful to post a new thread with just 30 of my faves? I'm not even sure if that is allowed by forum rules. Probably nobody would care.

I enjoyed your thread. Actually Peachtree Street ends at Brookwood (aka SoBuck) where it becomes Peachtree Road. Peachtree Street is mainly in Downtown and Midtown. When the corridor gets into Brookwood, it becomes state-maintained roadway and not city-maintained thus the name change from Street to Road.

I still enjoyed the thread, but I also have to "third" what two others have said. It is waaaay big. It may have been better to put it in thirds - Peachtree Street Downtown, Peachtree Street Midtown, and Peachtree Road or maybe just actually Peachtree Street which is only Downtown and Midtown.

[cityenthusiast]

Originally Posted by ATL_J

I've lived in the area for quite some time and I'm often out in that area and I've never particularly had a problem with the congestion. Yes, it does get crowded, but I wouldn't say to a point where it becomes a problem. Any healthy area where a lot of desirable restaurants and residences are located should have a certain level of congestion I would think.

Currently I feel those places serve the neighborhood well and people driving into the area often park along the neighborhood roads as I feel it should be. It increases foot traffic and adds to the vibrancy of the neighborhood. Building a huge deck in an already crowded area with massive amount of parking spaces is encouraging people to drive to the heart of the area instead of say parking along N. Highland or Austin.

Part of Atlanta's traffic problems are we build to accommodate the car, which I feel this deck is doing. It is clearly catering to the car. I understand the need to have some parking, but we should be building to encourage other forms of transportation such as walking, the future bike trails and transit along the Beltline, and the MARTA station about half a mile away. If parking is difficult then other forms of transportation become very appealing.

Well said sir I completely agree with you on that one unfortunately atlanta will continue to accomodate the car more than any other form of transportation. Even though where 30 years behind and the way to really make Atlanta grow would be to increase the transportation options.

[shivtim]

Thanks guys, I've seen the light and taken your advice and made a much more condensed thread of just the urban areas of Peachtree Street in downtown and midtown, with re-sized pictures.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=199468

[simms3_redux]

Originally Posted by shivtim

Thanks guys, I've seen the light and taken your advice and made a much more condensed thread of just the urban areas of Peachtree Street in downtown and midtown, with re-sized pictures.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=199468

Thanks for listening. I think your thread accurately depicts and positively highlights Atlanta. Thanks for focusing on the people, too, rather than "dead" scenes.

[AtlantaMustang]

Small Construction Update: (sorry for some of the picture quality)

77 12th:
Finally some vertical progress, yay




Skyhouse:
On floor 17 of 23


92 West Paces Ferry:
So far they are only working on the southern half of the what I thought the site was. I don't know the plan for the site so I can't be sure if this is the only portion that something will be built on or not.


235 Pharr Road:

[AtlantaMustang]

Oh, and there's now a tower crane up at the site for the new parking deck beside the capitol, and there's groundwork/prep/whatever on the multi-family building that will go up on the corner of North Highland and the Beltline.

[shivtim]

Thanks for the photo update, AtlantaMustang!

[Student]

Originally Posted by AtlantaMustang

Small Construction Update: (sorry for some of the picture quality)

77 12th:
Finally some vertical progress, yay

Is it normal for a highrise to rise at such a slow pace? Will the construction speed up after the parking deck portion is completed?

[bigstick]

Originally Posted by Student

Is it normal for a highrise to rise at such a slow pace? Will the construction speed up after the parking deck portion is completed?

Yes, but this has seemed abnormally slow,
especially compared to Skyhouse..

[Zanarkand A East]

Not a big deal, perhaps, but I noticed that the Olympic Torch on Capitol Avenue on the way to Turner Field is being painted. I would have snapped a photo, but I was on the Connector to I-20 East ramp. They really need to relocate the torch and gateway to Centennial Olympic Park and light it up. The entrance on COP Drive at International would be perfect.

[hamster]

I also noticed some construction yesterday north of the Georgia State MARTA station on Piedmont Ave.

This is probably a new sand volleyball complex site for Georgia State

http://www.georgiastatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=12700&ATCLID=205421739

[hamster]

Originally Posted by hamster

I also noticed some construction yesterday north of the Georgia State MARTA station on Piedmont Ave.

This is probably a new sand volleyball complex site for Georgia State

http://www.georgiastatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=12700&ATCLID=205421739

Looks like GSU already posted some pics of the groundbreaking on April 30th

see link