Western Expresso - Page 234

Biff · #**4661** Posted **Oct 15, 2021, 5:43 PM**

alot!

Jeff · #**4662** Posted **Oct 15, 2021, 6:20 PM**

aww the good old days!

esquire · #**4663** Posted **Oct 15, 2021, 6:26 PM**

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alot!

If I can't have quality I'll just go for quantity

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aww the good old days!

Hey look, it's another OG... love your insta pics and memes!

drew · #**4664** Posted **Oct 15, 2021, 6:26 PM**

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Biff · #**4665** Posted **Oct 15, 2021, 6:38 PM**

Yeah, but the having to wait 30 seconds between posts had me anxious. I blocked off my calendar at work so I could get those posts in.

1ajs · #**4666** Posted **Oct 15, 2021, 6:57 PM**

dam time flys 16yrs picked up a camera cause of this place

Kinguni · #**4667** Posted **Oct 15, 2021, 8:57 PM**

Over 13 years and over 1100 posts somehow, and I mostly lurk.

Jeff · #**4668** Posted **Oct 15, 2021, 10:14 PM**

i remember the great post number reset. we kept our date of joining but lost years of post count

Bdog · #**4669** Posted **Oct 15, 2021, 11:46 PM**

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I just realized that I have been a member of this forum for 20 years this month... it's amazing how time flies.

Shout out to all my fellow SSP old-timers with a decade or more here under their belts!

20 years, what a milestone. I started lurking around the time you joined and finally signed up a few years later. What a difference it is today from the doldrums of the early 2000s, where the humphry inn and Credit Union central were huge deals

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esquire · #**4670** Posted **Oct 16, 2021, 3:28 PM**

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20 years, what a milestone. I started lurking around the time you joined and finally signed up a few years later. What a difference it is today from the doldrums of the early 2000s, where the humphry inn and Credit Union central were huge deals

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Haha, who could forget. The 90s and 00s were really, really slow... there was a time when I wondered if we'd ever see a tower crane again in this town.

peg · #**4671** Posted **Oct 25, 2021, 8:49 PM**

I thought I would share that Lilzebra passed away on the 22nd of October.

https://www.tributearchive.com/obitu...-jaworski/wall

RIP James, fellow SSP former and transit advocate

esquire · #**4672** Posted **Oct 25, 2021, 8:54 PM**

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I thought I would share that Lilzebra passed away on the 22nd of October.

https://www.tributearchive.com/obitu...-jaworski/wall

RIP James, fellow SSP former and transit advocate

I was keeping my eyes open for his obituary in the newspaper but I must have missed it. Thanks for posting this.

Rest in Peace, James.

bomberjet · #**4673** Posted **Oct 25, 2021, 8:55 PM**

Ah.. Condolences to the family.

So young. He had talked about his health troubles recently.

cllew · #**4674** Posted **Oct 26, 2021, 1:54 AM**

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I was keeping my eyes open for his obituary in the newspaper but I must have missed it. Thanks for posting this.

Rest in Peace, James.

I don't think the obituary has been published yet. It looks like that was a notice on Cropo's web site and a full notice is coming soon.

Does anyone know if he is he the same James (Jim) Jaworski that owned the Kenaston Wine Market?

esquire · #**4675** Posted **Oct 28, 2021, 4:46 PM**

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Winnipeg may consider 2031 Pan Am Games bid

10:54 AM CDT Thursday, Oct. 28, 2021

Winnipeg could soon consider a bid to host the 2031 Pan American Games.

Coun. Brian Mayes will raise a new motion Thursday, which calls for the city to “explore a potential Winnipeg bid” to host the games that year, in collaboration with Economic Development Winnipeg and Tourism Winnipeg. The motion notes the federal and provincial governments could be involved in an actual bid.

Since the games attract about 6,000 elite athletes and 100,000 visitors, they would help Winnipeg’s service, hospitality and tourism industries recover from the major economic hit of COVID-19, the motion argues.

The idea is expected to be referred to the executive policy committee for consideration.

Interesting, but the games are wayyyy more expensive than they used to be. The 1999 Pan Am Games in Winnipeg cost $129 million while the 2015 PAG in Toronto cost $2.57 billion (!!!). I'm not sure if that is precisely an apples to apples comparison but it does give you an idea as to magnitude. Even if we did it with typical Winnipeg frugality, there is probably no way it would happen for under a billion dollars.

We'd probably need some new facilities or at least some serious upgrades to existing ones (i.e., not just a coat of paint). Maybe a new competition pool on the U of M campus to replace Joyce Fromson Pool and succeed Pan Am Pool as the premier FINA pool in Manitoba, and a new track and field stadium given that University Stadium (next to IG Field) is a dump.

esquire · #**4676** Posted **Oct 28, 2021, 4:48 PM**

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Does anyone know if he is he the same James (Jim) Jaworski that owned the Kenaston Wine Market?

Not the same guy.

Biff · #**4677** Posted **Oct 28, 2021, 5:31 PM**

Funny... as soon as you said possible Pan Am bid, the first thing I thought of was a new coat of paint on our world class 1960's facilities.

esquire · #**4678** Posted **Oct 28, 2021, 6:05 PM**

I would think PASO would laugh our bid out of the room unless we committed to building a new:

-Track and Field stadium - guessing probably around $50 to 75 million for a Moncton-style facility with capability of expansion through temporary seating? Although the problem is a facility like that is mostly useless since football uses IG Field and soccer won't want to use a track stadium... unless it's converted after the games to soccer use only.

-Competition pool - Toronto's 2015 competition pool cost $205 million

-Velodrome - Toronto's 2015 velodrome cost $63 million

Everything else you could probably get by with existing and/or upgraded facilities. But still, those three new facilities would cost close to a third of a billion dollars. Suddenly a new coat of paint on Pan Am Pool is looking pretty good...

DavefromSt.Vital · #**4679** Posted **Oct 28, 2021, 8:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

Interesting, but the games are wayyyy more expensive than they used to be. The 1999 Pan Am Games in Winnipeg cost $129 million while the 2015 PAG in Toronto cost $2.57 billion (!!!). I'm not sure if that is precisely an apples to apples comparison but it does give you an idea as to magnitude. Even if we did it with typical Winnipeg frugality, there is probably no way it would happen for under a billion dollars.

We'd probably need some new facilities or at least some serious upgrades to existing ones (i.e., not just a coat of paint). Maybe a new competition pool on the U of M campus to replace Joyce Fromson Pool and succeed Pan Am Pool as the premier FINA pool in Manitoba, and a new track and field stadium given that University Stadium (next to IG Field) is a dump.

The 2015 Pan-Am Games in Toronto were ridiculous. The idea was that Toronto could prove that they could host the Olympics by at least doing a smaller multi-sport competition. It didn't work and the budget ballooned so far out of sight it was bad. They had everything from Pan-Am only HOV lanes on the 401 out to Ajax to a tiny baseball stadium, to Pan-Am HOV lanes on the DVP, to promising an Eglinton LRT and a renovated Union Station. The last two are still under construction even though they started years before the games. It was badly mismanaged.

DavefromSt.Vital · #**4680** Posted **Oct 28, 2021, 8:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

I would think PASO would laugh our bid out of the room unless we committed to building a new:

-Track and Field stadium - guessing probably around $50 to 75 million for a Moncton-style facility with capability of expansion through temporary seating? Although the problem is a facility like that is mostly useless since football uses IG Field and soccer won't want to use a track stadium... unless it's converted after the games to soccer use only.

-Competition pool - Toronto's 2015 competition pool cost $205 million

-Velodrome - Toronto's 2015 velodrome cost $63 million

Everything else you could probably get by with existing and/or upgraded facilities. But still, those three new facilities would cost close to a third of a billion dollars. Suddenly a new coat of paint on Pan Am Pool is looking pretty good...

I would think a lot would depend on what happens with Hamilton's ever-dysfunctional city council. They were gifted the 2026 Commonwealth Games, but dithered enough that they appear to have run out of time. Last I checked, they were hoping for the 2030 Commonwealth Games. Just a hunch, I doubt the Feds would fund different games in different cities in 2030 and 2031.

If dysfunction in Hamilton continues then Winnipeg definitely has a shot at funding in 2031. One complicating factor is that there is a fairly well-connected private group working to rebuild most of the public facilities in downtown Hamilton (what used to Copps Coliseum, the convention centre, Eaton's, etc.) I would have thought they would have tried to leverage some public funding through a Commonwealth Games bid, but apparently not at the moment.