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Old Posted Dec 19, 2015, 12:33 PM
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Those videos and graphics were made a while ago and don't represent the now confirmed interchange designs which I posted above, The Steveston interchange will be especially interesting.
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Exciting stuff! Between this, the Champlain bridge, and the Gordie Howe Bridge, Canada is going to have 3 mega bridges under construction all at once!
     
     
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^ That's awesome. I'd love to get out to Newfoundland one summer and go for a cruise. I'd love to see 138 in Quebec extended along the north shore to Labrador in order to get there. Maybe one day.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 20, 2015, 9:16 PM
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I have made an interchange in SimCity 4 inspired by the 400 / 401 junction in Toronto.

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Location: https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.7169943,-79.5163695,16.63z

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Old Posted Dec 27, 2015, 4:39 PM
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Some new photos of the Hwy 407/412 interchange in Durham Region:

Some new photos of the 412 approaching the 407 interchange in Durham Region:

Pre-advanced signage for both the Hwy 7 and 407 interchanges:

http://www.asphaltplanet.ca/ON/hwy_410-427_images/412_dv_7-5_north_c_Dec15_lg.jpg
http://www.asphaltplanet.ca/ON/hwy_410-427_images/412_dv_7-5_north_c_Dec15_24x16.jpg

Advanced signage for the Hwy 7 interchange:

http://www.asphaltplanet.ca/ON/hwy_410-427_images/412_dv_8-5_north_Dec15_lg.jpg
http://www.asphaltplanet.ca/ON/hwy_410-427_images/412_dv_8-5_north_Dec15_24x16.jpg

Turn-off signage for the Hwy 7 interchange with an advanced sign for the Hwy 407 interchange. The 412 ends at the Hwy 407 interchange.

http://www.asphaltplanet.ca/ON/hwy_410-427_images/412_dv_9_north_Dec15_lg.jpg
http://www.asphaltplanet.ca/ON/hwy_410-427_images/412_dv_9_north_Dec15_24x16.jpg

Signage at the end of the 412:

http://www.asphaltplanet.ca/ON/hwy_410-427_images/412_dv_10_north_Dec15_lg.jpg
http://www.asphaltplanet.ca/ON/hwy_410-427_images/412_dv_10_north_Dec15_24x16.jpg

View of the three level interchange between the 412 and the 407:

http://www.asphaltplanet.ca/ON/hwy_410-427_images/412_structure_10_nw-three-level_Dec15_lg.jpg
http://www.asphaltplanet.ca/ON/hwy_410-427_images/412_structure_10_nw-three-level_Dec15_24x16.jpg

View looking westerly along the 407 from the 412 off-ramp:

http://www.asphaltplanet.ca/ON/hwy_407-4.../407_cl_112_west_WB-offramp_Dec15_lg.jpg
http://www.asphaltplanet.ca/ON/hwy_407-4...7_cl_112_west_WB-offramp_Dec15_24x16.jpg

Easterly view along the 407 from the 412 off-ramp:

http://www.asphaltplanet.ca/ON/hwy_407-4.../407_cl_112_east_WB-offramp_Dec15_lg.jpg
http://www.asphaltplanet.ca/ON/hwy_407-4...7_cl_112_east_WB-offramp_Dec15_24x16.jpg
     
     
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Just for fun, today I invented a fictive Road sign with variable speed limits.
What do you think of the idea and the design of the road sign itself ?

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I still think that the Massey Tunnel replacement bridge is completely overboard. For far less money, I think they could have upgraded the 91 to full 6 lane freeway, and replaced the 4 lane Massey tunnel with a 4 lane drawbridge across the Fraser.

Really, taking the Massey tunnel only has 2 advantages:

1) you're going to Delta - which is sort of hemmed-in growthwise by the agricultural land reserve.
2) you're going from Vancouver/Richmond to the ferry terminal at Tsawassen.

If you're traveling to south Surrey, White Rock or the border crossing, the 91 via the Alex Fraser bridge is not a detour.
     
     
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Just for fun, today I invented a fictive Road sign with variable speed limits.
What do you think of the idea and the design of the road sign itself ?

Not a bad idea. The only problem I see is that these signs lead to possible interpretation by the drivers making it much harder for them to get ticketed. For example, would a very light drizzle be considered under the 120 km/h or 100 km/h category?
And is the third speed limit only valid when it's blowing snow outside or does it include light snow as well?

Otherwise, the sign and illustrations is very well done.

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Old Posted Dec 30, 2015, 3:33 AM
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I still think that the Massey Tunnel replacement bridge is completely overboard. For far less money, I think they could have upgraded the 91 to full 6 lane freeway, and replaced the 4 lane Massey tunnel with a 4 lane drawbridge across the Fraser.

Really, taking the Massey tunnel only has 2 advantages:

1) you're going to Delta - which is sort of hemmed-in growthwise by the agricultural land reserve.
2) you're going from Vancouver/Richmond to the ferry terminal at Tsawassen.

If you're traveling to south Surrey, White Rock or the border crossing, the 91 via the Alex Fraser bridge is not a detour.
The fact that you propose replacing a 4 lane tunnel with a 4 lane drawbridge takes any credibility away from this post.

I don't think anywhere in the world this day and age is going to build a free flow highway with a drawbridge across a river with high rates of marine traffic...

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The fact that you propose replacing a 4 lane tunnel with a 4 lane drawbridge takes any credibility away from this post.

I don't think anywhere in the world this day and age is going to build a free flow highway with a drawbridge across a river with high rates of marine traffic...

Haha!! When I also read that `draw-bridge` bit I cracked up - x 1 million. Most hilarious thing that I have ever read on SSP in 12 years. Concurrently, this image came to my mind:

     
     
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wow these are incredible.
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The Alex Fraser Bridge is already jammed at rush hour and #91 is not a freeway.
     
     
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The fact that you propose replacing a 4 lane tunnel with a 4 lane drawbridge takes any credibility away from this post.

I don't think anywhere in the world this day and age is going to build a free flow highway with a drawbridge across a river with high rates of marine traffic...

No, what's not credible is shoving 10 lanes of traffic onto Oak Street. I don't know what we're building a 10 lane bridge for. We know the road can't be expanded on the northern end - at least not past Richmond, so this bridge replacement is just an exercise in moving the bottleneck somewhere else.

We might as well cut the freeway back to Steveston Highway and spend that $3.5 billion turning the 91 to a full freeway and redirecting most of the traffic over the Alex Fraser. The only population the Massey Tunnel replacement bridge serves is people who live in Ladner and ferry traffic. Most people will take the free Alex Fraser over the tolled white eleph...I mean Massey Tunnel replacement, anyway.
     
     
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No, what's not credible is shoving 10 lanes of traffic onto Oak Street. I don't know what we're building a 10 lane bridge for. We know the road can't be expanded on the northern end - at least not past Richmond, so this bridge replacement is just an exercise in moving the bottleneck somewhere else.

We might as well cut the freeway back to Steveston Highway and spend that $3.5 billion turning the 91 to a full freeway and redirecting most of the traffic over the Alex Fraser. The only population the Massey Tunnel replacement bridge serves is people who live in Ladner and ferry traffic. Most people will take the free Alex Fraser over the tolled white eleph...I mean Massey Tunnel replacement, anyway.
Look. You have obviously not read the engineering reports. Ya obviously have no clue on transportation and logistics. And ya are embarrassing BC with your loony-left enviro idiocy. The same loony-left enviro ilk that inhabits the inner city core of Van City proper.

Quite obvious that ya are both trolling and concern trolling. Another trolling clown, SFUVancouver, pulled the same stunt a few weeks back. Have zero tolerance for that crap after 12 years on here.

If ya push it any further, I will report ya to the Site Admin, Kevin in Texas. He has previously advised me to do so with trolling clowns akin to yourself. Seriously.

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Look. You have obviously not read the engineering reports. Ya obviously have no clue on transportation and logistics.
You would be surprised...

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And ya are embarrassing BC with your loony-left enviro idiocy. The same loony-left enviro ilk that inhabits the inner city core of Van City proper.
So opposing a bridge on cost grounds makes me a "loony [sic]-left idiot"?

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Quite obvious that ya are both trolling and concern trolling. Another trolling clown, SFUVancouver, pulled the same stunt a few weeks back. Have zero tolerance for that crap after 12 years on here.

If ya push it any further, I will report ya to the Site Admin, Kevin in Texas. He has previously advised me to do so with trolling clowns akin to yourself. Seriously.
Well, what are you waiting for? Ring the alarm!
     
     
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You would be surprised...



So opposing a bridge on cost grounds makes me a "loony [sic]-left idiot"?



Well, what are you waiting for? Ring the alarm!
Zero tolerance for that trolling & concern trolling crap. Ya are now reported! Good for ya! Enjoy the repercussions. I never fool around.
     
     
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Hey Stingray,

First off, I will say that I have always appreciated your posts on this forum. You have good, largely unbiased insight into topics such as provincial and federal politics, LNG, and several other industries around BC and Canada. I also appreciate your insight into the current provincial government's point of view on road building. For example, you've posted a number of studies and schematics that I had never seen before, such as the one prepared by Delcan, which essentially has been followed to-the-letter for over a decade now.

On the urban front, I have enjoyed the insight provided by SFUVancouver over the years, including for many years prior to my becoming a member on this forum. I believe that there are few others, SSP/SSC-wide, with a better understanding of modern city-building and the general urban theme prevelent here. Of course, I don't agree with all of his opinions, but I think he is the furthest thing from a "troll" on a website like this.

I have to admit, I was surprised to see him say that, which leads me to believe it was something you said. Personally, I've found some of your posts the last couple weeks a bit odd. You're writing style seems to have developed a sort of hickish accent (for lack of a better word) that comes across as extremely condescending. Especially given that you're typing, not speaking. IIRC, you've always written "normally", so it feels like you're doing it intentionally to incite some sort of reaction. Not saying that you're trying to, just that it seems like it.

Same thing goes for hipster duck - while I agree that the drawbridge idea is silly, I would never characterize him as a troll. His posts to date prove that. You've been giving the impression over the last few weeks that anyone who doesn't agree with you (or the BC government's position) is a "loony-left enviro nut" or a troll. Step back, they just see things differently from you. Take a cue from Metro-One. He was very critical of the drawbridge post. But he wasn't looking for him to be kicked off the site for it.

Feel free to contact Kevin from Texas, the local Van moderators, even Dylan Leblanc or Mike K about SFUVancouver and hipster duck. I suspect you won't be receiving the response you expect when you do.

Anyways, like I said, I appreciate everything that you've contributed to forum. Just giving you a friendly kick in the butt because your posts of late have been a little bit much.
     
     
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Hey Stingray,

First off, I will say that I have always appreciated your posts on this forum. You have good, largely unbiased insight into topics such as provincial and federal politics, LNG, and several other industries around BC and Canada. I also appreciate your insight into the current provincial government's point of view on road building. For example, you've posted a number of studies and schematics that I had never seen before, such as the one prepared by Delcan, which essentially has been followed to-the-letter for over a decade now.

On the urban front, I have enjoyed the insight provided by SFUVancouver over the years, including for many years prior to my becoming a member on this forum. I believe that there are few others, SSP/SSC-wide, with a better understanding of modern city-building and the general urban theme prevelent here. Of course, I don't agree with all of his opinions, but I think he is the furthest thing from a "troll" on a website like this.

I have to admit, I was surprised to see him say that, which leads me to believe it was something you said. Personally, I've found some of your posts the last couple weeks a bit odd. You're writing style seems to have developed a sort of hickish accent (for lack of a better word) that comes across as extremely condescending. Especially given that you're typing, not speaking. IIRC, you've always written "normally", so it feels like you're doing it intentionally to incite some sort of reaction. Not saying that you're trying to, just that it seems like it.

Same thing goes for hipster duck - while I agree that the drawbridge idea is silly, I would never characterize him as a troll. His posts to date prove that. You've been giving the impression over the last few weeks that anyone who doesn't agree with you (or the BC government's position) is a "loony-left enviro nut" or a troll. Step back, they just see things differently from you. Take a cue from Metro-One. He was very critical of the drawbridge post. But he wasn't looking for him to be kicked off the site for it.

Feel free to contact Kevin from Texas, the local Van moderators, even Dylan Leblanc or Mike K about SFUVancouver and hipster duck. I suspect you won't be receiving the response you expect when you do.

Anyways, like I said, I appreciate everything that you've contributed to forum. Just giving you a friendly kick in the butt because your posts of late have been a little bit much.
Well, let me put it this way. After 12 years, I now see too much trolling and concern trolling by some BC posters recently. And I have even received an apology about SFUVancouver's previous conduct from the site admin several days back (Not upon my instigation). And Hippy Duck is def concern trolling here as well. Have not seen this conduct in my previous 12 years on here. If these troll and concern trolls begin to take over - simply put, they are flakes - then this site is not worth it anymore for me personally. End of story.

PS. Yep. Just cannot do it in terms of reporting Hippy Duck. Am not the narc type.

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