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Old Posted Mar 16, 2018, 4:33 AM
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I live on the 3rd floor of a building overlooking the rears of houses along Robinson. I feel like I intrude on their privacy (and they also intrude on ours lol) way more than the folks that live above us. We're practically in line with their windows!

Meanwhile, the houses on Wesanford are hardly taller than the 3rd floor of Television City, which means that balconies will overlook the roofs and yards. If at that point you're so deeply concerned with your privacy, do yourself (and the environment) a favour and head on down to your local garden centre and ask the attendant to help you select a tree to give you some privacy from your pesky new condo-dwelling neighbours
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2018, 5:34 AM
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I live on 6 in a building in downtown Burlington. What I can see of back yards is minimal due to the trees. What I actually care to see is less than minimal. Mostly I appreciate the often stunning sunsets from my balcony along with the occasional lightning show from thunder storms that roll through in the spring and summer.

Yet when the a$$holes who live on the surface in one particular SFH hold all-night summer parties -- with 4AM bongo playing mind you -- I'd be the one intruding by looking down upon them from on high, according to planning staff opinion (an opinion shared here too, especially among the "Little" people).
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2018, 7:21 AM
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Th city has in house OMB lawyers.
Lamb will have the best OMB lawyers and consultants money can buy. It will be no contest.
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2018, 12:07 PM
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Use the link here to send an email to council all at once.
A group of 100 or so people have hijacked the process, and have pounded Councillor Farr's email inbox with their unfounded 'fears'.

https://raisethehammer.org/council
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2018, 2:04 PM
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The city's report is so stupid it drools. Just going to pluck out one thing: "overintensification." Please. Really? What does that even mean?

As pointed out previously by, I believe, LRTfan et al, there are clusters of apartment towers very close, and Vranich's development is a block away.

Besides, the George ST tower and the two buildings at 150ish Main ST nearly abut--talk about intensification at that corner, so this report is preposterous and I will definitely be emailing our wise leaders.
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2018, 3:02 PM
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Yeah the city planners are a joke. I'll be emailing councilors.

Also I agree with Lamb on podiums. Not needed.
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2018, 3:04 PM
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Lamb will have the best OMB lawyers and consultants money can buy. It will be no contest.
I'm not sure about that. As far as I've heard, the tale that developers always win at the OMB was made up by neighbourhood associations and municipalities piggybacked on it to lobby for reforms to the system. In fact, the municipality wins (or 'won') something like 60% of the time. And many of those cases where the developer won was because of cases like ward boundaries in Hamilton, where council took up a patently unreasonable position knowing full well it was likely to lose at the OMB, for the sake of political optics. The fact is that the city has very good planners and experts and there is (was) already an underlying trend toward deference to municipal decision-making. That makes the developer's task pretty difficult no matter how nice a suit their lawyer is wearing.
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2018, 6:48 PM
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the whole 'fits in with the neighbouring buildings' is a load of nonsense. If that was our guideline for development then nothing would ever get built. Literally nothing.

A cul-de-sac of 2.5 storey homes with 3 car garages doesn't fit with the farmland next door.
The Pigott Building didn't fit with all the low rise buildings in the city when it was built.
The steel mills and their 30 storey smokestacks didn't fit with a grassy harbour shore.
City Hall as a modern, space-age looking building didn't fit in the old Victorian downtown
Hambly House in Westdale didn't fit one bit amongst the modest brick bungalows next door

The list is endless....this is how cities grow. How on earth Hamilton ended up with an anti-business, anti-common sense city hall is beyond me, considering we've been one of the most depressed cities in Canada for decades. We need to start growing again. We're 4 decades behind.
Hear, hear!

And to add to your list, Landmark Place never fit for height or location away from the existing cluster of downtown towers. Nor does it fit now. (I can't wait to see some towers spring up around it to hide it a little.)

New, fresh, or simply different proposals never 'fit', nor should they. So subjective. This is what makes cities vibrant, eclectic, and exciting--it's a mosaic, a patch-quilt of architectural visions and styles that complement and make up a city's whole. Lamb's towers would actually help the shitty commie blocks fit in better.
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2018, 7:12 PM
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Personally I'd like to see more blocks like the lister block/william thomas block - where all the buildings that fringe the block are like 4-6 stories, and the buildings in the middle of the block are really high - unobtrusive but still beautiful looking at the same time. King william and james is a beautiful example imo.
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2018, 8:42 PM
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I'm not sure about that. As far as I've heard, the tale that developers always win at the OMB was made up by neighbourhood associations and municipalities piggybacked on it to lobby for reforms to the system. In fact, the municipality wins (or 'won') something like 60% of the time. And many of those cases where the developer won was because of cases like ward boundaries in Hamilton, where council took up a patently unreasonable position knowing full well it was likely to lose at the OMB, for the sake of political optics. The fact is that the city has very good planners and experts and there is (was) already an underlying trend toward deference to municipal decision-making. That makes the developer's task pretty difficult no matter how nice a suit their lawyer is wearing.
Tell Burlington that.
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the whole 'fits in with the neighbouring buildings' is a load of nonsense. If that was our guideline for development then nothing would ever get built. Literally nothing.

A cul-de-sac of 2.5 storey homes with 3 car garages doesn't fit with the farmland next door.
The Pigott Building didn't fit with all the low rise buildings in the city when it was built.
The steel mills and their 30 storey smokestacks didn't fit with a grassy harbour shore.
City Hall as a modern, space-age looking building didn't fit in the old Victorian downtown
Hambly House in Westdale didn't fit one bit amongst the modest brick bungalows next door

The list is endless....this is how cities grow. How on earth Hamilton ended up with an anti-business, anti-common sense city hall is beyond me, considering we've been one of the most depressed cities in Canada for decades. We need to start growing again. We're 4 decades behind.

OMG, loved this comment, absoluetly so true
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2018, 2:19 AM
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It's imperative that folks take 3 mins to email council. They are being swamped by the opponents. Can't have them only hearing one side.
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2018, 5:33 PM
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Use the link here to send an email to council all at once.
A group of 100 or so people have hijacked the process, and have pounded Councillor Farr's email inbox with their unfounded 'fears'.

https://raisethehammer.org/council
Thanks, this was useful. I've emailed the mayor and councillors letting them know that I think the condos would look great in downtown Hamilton and that I don't think they are too tall.
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2018, 5:26 PM
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City will fight the Television City condo towers
The province has forced everyone's hand, says Brad Lamb, by phasing out the Ontario Municipal Board

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilt...ture-1.4584119

It will be Brad Lamb versus Hamilton city council this year as the two square off at the Ontario Municipal Board (OMB) over the planned Television City condo towers.

Council's planning committee voted Tuesday to oppose Lamb's project at the OMB. The high-profile Toronto developer wants to build two condo towers — one 30 storeys, one 40 — at the CHCH headquarters in downtown Hamilton.

The towers will be incompatible with the rest of the Durand neighbourhood, says the motion from Jason Farr, Ward 2 councillor. And on neighbouring sidewalks they'll block the sun.

Tuesday's decision isn't a surprise for either side.

Lamb and city planners have been working well together, Lamb said last week. But the province is phasing out the OMB in favour of the Local Planning Appeals Tribunal, which considered to be less developer friendly. The deadline to appeal to the OMB is April 3, so Lamb wanted to meet that deadline.

He filed the appeal last Thursday, before city councillors could even vote on the project. City planners were already recommending denying the rezoning. Among their issues: with the elevation of the property at 163 Jackson St. W., the buildings would be taller than the Niagara escarpment.

A half dozen Durand residents spoke against the project Tuesday, citing issues with sun shadow, parking and incompatibility with the neighbourhood.

City council has to ratify the decision on March 28.
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2018, 3:58 PM
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Looks like Television City has brought back some Raise the Hammer activity

http://raisethehammer.org/article/34...l_growing_city

Television City Development Part of a Successful, Growing City

I honestly never expected that someone would propose such a fantastic urban housing project in our core in my lifetime. But I really never expected that it would be my city administration that would turn it down.

By Jason Leach
Published March 20, 2018

never thought I would have either the opportunity or the need to do this, but I need to state my support for the new housing project proposed in our downtown core on the CHCH site.

First of all, we need more housing in this city. Period. It gets tiring to read local development news and see City Hall constantly opposing or trying to shorten new urban development projects. Urban cities either grow or stagnate.

We have sprawled across the countryside for decades and are already paying a steep price for the poor planning: high taxes, way too many kilometres of roads we can't afford to maintain, and a hollowed-out central city.

As a taxpayer living in one of the highest-taxed cities in Ontario, I want many more $300 million, 600-unit investments in my downtown core. I welcome more resident ratepayers sharing the cost of running this city without having to build miles of new suburban roads.

More housing will also help our affordability problems. Anyone who complains about affordability can't in clear conscience turn down an additional supply of homes. And that's what these are: homes for people who want to live in our city.

Perhaps the most important fact of all surrounding new investment in our core can be found by looking at the older high-rises that were built during the last building boom downtown in the 1970s. Every building is full of residents, most have waiting lists, and the prices to purchase or rent are much cheaper than detached or semi-detached street level housing in Hamilton.

Reverse the Decline
I have looked through the letters of opposition to this project (very few considering over a thousand notices went out) and of the ten letters that had a mailing address on them, six are from very nice condo buildings nearby - Bentley Place, Village Hill and Core Lofts. Three are from home owners and one is from a renter.

It's frustrating to see people who already have homes in our city trying to prevent other people from moving in. This is one of the biggest problems underway in Hamilton today: people who already own their nice luxury condo or Victorian home trying to block others from moving into their neighbourhood.

Hamilton's lower city population is 25,000 people fewer today than it was in 1971. I purchased my home in the downtown core with the belief that City Hall wanted to reverse that decline and revitalize the core.

I have long hoped that we would add a hundred thousand people to the core, not keep it depressed and with a shrunken population. I would have invested elsewhere had I known my civic administration is happy with the the economically stagnant status quo.

Cities Grow Over Time
In the vibrant downtown of a major city, there is no such thing as "over-intensification" of a site. This concept is a peculiar Hamilton thing because we reflexively oppose anything more dense than single-family sprawl neighbourhoods.

The neighbourhood around this development is already full of high-rise buildings. The staff report conveniently omits the fact that one block from Television City there is a 28-storey and a soon-to-be-finished 32-storey building.

Why are a few homes on Wesanford taking precedent over the existing tall-building character of the neighbourhood? This would be like the ten-storey building on Rymal near Upper Wentworth now taking precedent every time a new home is proposed in that part of the city.

Here's the thing: cities grow larger over time. The idea of a new building needing to match the buildings next door is a recipe for stagnation. Consider the following:

The Pigott Building, Hamilton's first skyscraper, was far taller than anything else around it when it was built.

When City Hall was built, it was like a spaceship plopped into an old Victorian downtown. Now it's a protected heritage landmark.

The famous Hambly House on Longwood Road North doesn't match the old brick bungalows that surround it on all sides.

The Red Hill Valley Parkway certainly didn't match the trees and river surrounding it.


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Old Posted Mar 21, 2018, 5:34 PM
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Personally this is one of the times where I don't oppose this kind of development. The entire area is already cast in shadow.. it's not like you are trying to prevent this from happening like in other places..

Let's hope lamb manages to get this through. This whole area is kinda run down looking, so it's dumb to say you can't build it because it doesn't match the development around it - one should lead by innovation, not not build innovation because everything around it is crap. Those apartments built in the 80s suck, as does most of the architecture that was built in the 80s.
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clearly the DNA didn't do much research before freaking out on this project.... some stats here on this project showing Lamb can build pretty significant sized buildings and still adhere to the escarpment limit. Although personally I hope he goes through the OMB process. It'll be an easy win.

http://www.raisethehammer.org/articl...ty_development
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2018, 2:55 AM
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clearly the DNA didn't do much research before freaking out on this project.... some stats here on this project showing Lamb can build pretty significant sized buildings and still adhere to the escarpment limit. Although personally I hope he goes through the OMB process. It'll be an easy win.

http://www.raisethehammer.org/articl...ty_development
What the city should do is allow the 40 storey building, and ask the other one to be lowered to the escarpment's 28 storeys.
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I support Television City as planned. The area desperately needs some retail. I have to walk to John Street from Bay just to get to a Big Bee after hours for milk or anything. And that's a downtown major city?

The towers look magnificient. Nothing says more about Hamilton's turn-a-round than a project like this in the core. Let this be a signal that you are doing more than just fancy slogans and EcDev videos. "Unstoppable" we'll you just have to prove that, not just say it.

Let Brad Lamb build Television City. It is long past due that we have a new tallest tower for our skyline and promotion shots. Even CHCH shows the skyline. Let's build on the excitement and have more Television City type buildings.

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Old Posted Mar 29, 2018, 12:39 PM
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for those who missed it, council voted to reject this project yesterday.

Because Hamilton is such a sizzling boomtown with a top world economy and massive growth problems we can't keep up with..... last election I voted purely for LRT. Next election I'm voting purely for council/mayor with business vision and leadership, not pandering to whiny NIMBYs who live in detached half-million dollar homes and want to prevent any unsightly high-rise dwellers from cluttering up their precious hood.
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