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Old Posted May 19, 2023, 4:39 PM
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So does that mean no conventions at all while under construction? If so, that's absolutely insane.
At least it'll relive some stress at AUS. The new convention center would open in the same year as the new center concourse if we ever get the damn south terminal out of there.

How many hotels are under construction? They all have convention space that will likely be booked solid from 2025-29.
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Old Posted May 19, 2023, 4:48 PM
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How many hotels are under construction? They all have convention space that will likely be booked solid from 2025-29.
They will definitely be booked solid, but all of the hotels in the city pipeline are medium to small (all less than 400 rooms, and most less than 200 rooms), and won't have space big enough for convention center groups. Even the Fairmont and the JW, our biggest boxes, can only handle a fraction of the space of the CC.
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Old Posted May 19, 2023, 4:43 PM
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So does that mean no conventions at all while under construction? If so, that's absolutely insane.
Yes that's what that means. They're exploring using alternate venues (like Moody Center, or Palmer Events Center, etc. as well as using the space at multiple hotels for a "campus" feel) but those are going to be heavy lifts, IMO, and rare.
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Old Posted May 19, 2023, 5:25 PM
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I wish they would just build a new convention center somewhere at or near the statesman site, and return the existing convention center land back to the street grid.
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Old Posted May 19, 2023, 7:38 PM
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Major Redevelopment and Expansion Plans for Austin Convention Center Moves Forward
May 19, 2023
AUSTIN, Texas – On Monday, May 22, 2023, the City of Austin will seek a qualified professional design and engineering firm through a Request For Qualifications (RFQ) solicitation to provide comprehensive design, architecture, and engineering services for the redevelopment and expansion of the Austin Convention Center.

Upon the release, the RFQ kicks off the design stage of the project and is the next step in the redevelopment and expansion of the Austin Convention Center. The project has been studied and planned for several years to meet the demand from larger conventions and meeting groups that desire to come to Austin. Currently, the Austin Convention Center has 376,000 square feet of rentable space. The expansion and redevelopment target is to nearly double the amount of rentable space allowing the Center to remain competitive in the marketplace.

“This is an important day for the City of Austin. Releasing the RFQ for the design is the first of many steps, but is a vital one for our city’s future. An expanded convention center has been a topic of conversation for years and, as we continue to become a focal point in the world, we have to accommodate a large number of events,” said Kirk Watson, Mayor City of Austin. “With an inadequate convention center, we lose out to competitors and, consequently miss out on millions of dollars for our Austin community. With a bigger convention center, the economic impact to our city is estimated to jump to over $750 million annually, from the current $468 million. A larger facility also means more travelers to Austin and jobs in the Austin hospitality industry.”

“To give the community, visitors, and attendees the true authentic Austin experience, we want the new Austin Convention Center to be an iconic, innovative, and symbolic meeting location,” said Trisha Tatro, Director Austin Convention Center Department (ACCD). “Along with providing more rentable space, we want a signature design that will provide state-of-the-art technologies and be an industry-leading facility that is ready to exceed future clients’ needs.”

The current project timeline estimates that building closure, demolition, and construction activities will begin in 2025 with the new, larger facility reopening in 2029. The estimated project cost for the Austin Convention Center redevelopment and expansion is $1.6 billion and is fully funded from the Austin Convention Center’s allocation from the municipal Hotel Occupancy Tax (HOT) and Austin Convention Center revenues.

To minimize the impact on customers and the community, a one-phase building concept and approach model will be used for the construction project. In using a vertical approach to deliver a larger more efficient facility, the goal of the redevelopment of the Austin Convention Center is to transform the southeast corner of downtown into a community-centric destination for attendees and the community.

“Austin is blessed to have one of the liveliest urban cores in any American city that isn’t on a coast, but our convention center is outdated, undersized, and a barrier in the southeastern corner of Downtown,” said Zohaib Qadri, Austin City Council Member - District 9. “The vision to transform this space into a community-centric destination for visitors and residents alike while also re-stitching the grid is an exciting prospect for many reasons, not least of which is the fact that it could lead to new opportunities for a lot more affordable housing in the heart of District 9.”

Building within the same footprint, the project will integrate the exterior of the building into the fabric of the surrounding Palm District. It will reopen street grids, attracting visitors and locals alike to this iconic new structure in downtown Austin, and add an estimated additional $282 million of economic impact.

“We’re so pleased to support the Austin Convention Center and the City of Austin as they move forward with the redesign project,” said Michele Flores, SXSW Chief Logistics Officer. “While we’re excited about the prospect of reimagining SXSW for a few years, we look forward to returning to the new convention center in 2029 for an improved SXSW experience.”

“Austin is the 11th largest city in the U.S., but currently, we have the 59th largest Convention Center,” said Tom Noonan, President and CEO of Visit Austin. “In the last few years, we’ve seen roughly 50% of our Convention Center leads lost due to the lack of space or availability, so we know the demand for a new center is there. This new center will allow us to be more competitive within the state and with our major national competitors.”

“When downtown is filled with conventions, we see that impact across the entire city, in restaurants, live music venues, retail shops, and more. But, it doesn’t stop there. Hotel Occupancy Tax also supports our cultural arts programs, including music and historic preservation, so those will see a benefit from this redevelopment, as well,” said Noonan.

“Over the past decade, this project has been evaluated through many studies, including one from the University of Texas. All of the studies supported an expansion,” said Mayor Watson. “This is a big win for the City of Austin and its residents since this project is being funded by visitors who stay in hotels, and the funding is not coming out of our residents’ property taxes.”

The Austin Convention Center is located at 500 E. Cesar Chavez Street, Austin, TX 78701. More information about the history, timeline, and links to the studies of the redevelopment of the Austin Convention Center can be found here.
https://www.austinconventioncenter.c...-center-moves/
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Old Posted May 19, 2023, 9:24 PM
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With a 2025 construction start, when do you think we'll see the first renderings of the new center?
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Looks like item 12 of the next council meeting is finally back to that "tourism improvement district" idea.

https://www.austintexas.gov/departme...230720-reg.htm

looks like it's no longer funding homeless services ( I believe state law was changed to no longer make that an option.

Interestingly they plan to allocate the funds somewhat differently while the CC is closed.
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Is the train still going to run, how would one get south of the convention center from the train? What streets are closing and where is the construction staging going to be? Inquiring minds want to know......

BTW - 2025 start date seems pretty darn quick, as if they already have seen the designs and picked the winners. spooky.
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BTW - 2025 start date seems pretty darn quick, as if they already have seen the designs and picked the winners. spooky.

Honestly construction can't start soon enough. Should have started yesterday IMO but that still leaves some time for logistics to get sorted out.
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“The vision to transform this space into a community-centric destination for visitors and residents alike while also re-stitching the grid is an exciting prospect for many reasons, not least of which is the fact that it could lead to new opportunities for a lot more affordable housing in the heart of District 9.”

Building within the same footprint, the project will integrate the exterior of the building into the fabric of the surrounding Palm District. It will reopen street grids, attracting visitors and locals alike to this iconic new structure in downtown Austin...
Can't wait to see how they pull off this trick.

A new, larger CC, built within existing footprint, and reconnects the street grid. ... ummm ok. I'll believe it when I see it.
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I would assume that a good chunk will be under ground, some may be above in higher levels, plus they could connect the grid and still have a section built over the street.
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Old Posted Jul 13, 2023, 3:45 PM
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I would assume that a good chunk will be under ground, some may be above in higher levels, plus they could connect the grid and still have a section built over the street.
This is the general plan as I understand it. Sink the new exhibit halls below street level, connect the grid and offer more open space and retail on surface level, and then build up a few floors, connecting the building again on levels 2+.

Everything I've seen has also incorporated additional towers on the site, all of which are unrelated to the CC itself but which might house city of Austin offices, etc. The collapse of DT office space demand, though, might change these plans in a major way. either way there are currently no concrete plans to look at yet. Hopefully they'll release this RFQ ASAP so we can see the expectations up close.
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Old Posted Jul 27, 2023, 11:11 PM
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I would assume that a good chunk will be under ground, some may be above in higher levels, plus they could connect the grid and still have a section built over the street.
Isn't the whole selling point of top tier convention centers contiguous space?

Certainly not advocating for mowing down more city blocks, but this plan seems more like a nod to developers adding units than an actual convention center, at least as their selling it...

Maybe I'm wrong and people prefer a new layout with aircraft carrier style elevators to get mass people and their gear to the different floors.

I guess I'll just wait until plans are released.
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My biggest hope with this is that they follow through on the reports concepts for a semi public park on the roof. If we could get something akin to Salesforce park in SF, that section of downtown would be such a hub of activity during the day with park goers and tourists.

If they put in a lawn for events, I could see it being the top spot for activations during sxsw and cool concert series. Hell if big enough they could do a smaller version of Blues on the Green downtown.
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Yeah, that's what I was about to ask - if there are any plans. I couldn't find any but I know we have some pretty amazing sleuths on here for that stuff.
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Old Posted Jul 13, 2023, 3:52 PM
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I would re-read the UT report if you want a preview of what’s to come.
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Item 27 for the next council meeting is a 65M design/engineering contract for the expansion. Item 28 is 1.2B for construction.


Also includes a bunch of resources, including a phasing proof of concept I'm not sure we've seen before.

https://www.austintexas.gov/departme...231019-reg.htm
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Item 27 for the next council meeting is a 65M design/engineering contract for the expansion. Item 28 is 1.2B for construction.


Also includes a bunch of resources, including a phasing proof of concept I'm not sure we've seen before.

https://www.austintexas.gov/departme...231019-reg.htm
Neither the convention center nor light rail plans seem to acknowledge the existence of the chilled water main in 3rd Street below the convention center. I also think they got the BOH and prefunction assignment backwards in Phase II. The active areas should face Brush Square and the Downtown Station, not a dead zone.
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This was approved by Council last night:

Authorize negotiation and execution of a contract for preconstruction and construction services for the Austin Convention Center Redevelopment project with JE Dunn/Turner, a joint venture, in an amount not to exceed $1,200,000,000. [Note: This contract will be awarded in compliance with City Code Chapter 2-9A (Minority Owned and Women Owned Business Enterprise Procurement Program) by meeting the goals with 10.30% MBE and 2.38% WBE participation].
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Neither the convention center nor light rail plans seem to acknowledge the existence of the chilled water main in 3rd Street below the convention center. I also think they got the BOH and prefunction assignment backwards in Phase II. The active areas should face Brush Square and the Downtown Station, not a dead zone.
Who could ever have foretold that there would be a water line buried deep below 3rd Street?
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