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Lol. Who pukes in a trash can these days. Have you seen the streets?

The last time I puked in public (2011) I had the decency to use a trash can, so I guess it's just a personal preference. If it hadn't been there it would have been all over a train platform.
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The office tower does have setbacks. This project is incredible.

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Looks about 1,200' for the two taller ones and 900' for the smaller.
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Well, first a permit would have to be granted to erect the platform and only then could the actual construction begin.
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The office tower looks like a Foster. I think I’ve seen a Foster office tower that consists of tube-like structures like this tower will have.


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Looks about 1,200' for the two taller ones and 900' for the smaller.
Those renderings do look about those heights. But who knows when those renderings were made. Even the graphic we've seen shows a different make up. But what's moving through approvals now is what's below, which is all we have to go on until something changes...







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The office tower looks like a Foster. I think I’ve seen a Foster office tower that consists of tube-like structures like this tower will have.

Looks more Beekman to me. It's the first thing I thought of when I saw it. It could be Foster, Foster designed 50 for Related. So I could see it being Foster as well, though it doesn't look like any of Foster's New York work.



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Focusing more on just the casino, and everything that entails, this is really the only location in Midtown where you could build this type of resort.

It would breath so much new life into the railyards, drawing even more people from all over.


















I would add a simple water feature at both ends on 11th Avenue, along the retail. If you look closely, you can also see how the loading access on 11th Ave is hidden.







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Looks more Beekman to me. It's the first thing I thought of when I saw it. It could be Foster, Foster designed 50 for Related. So I could see it being Foster as well, though it doesn't look like any of Foster's New York work.
The tube-looking structures remind me of Foster’s condo tower by the UN, and the setbacks look a bit like those on 50 HY except there are a few more.

There’s a Foster office building somewhere overseas with more pronounced blue glass tubes on the exterior than the UN condo has.

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Looks like a giant grain silo in white like that.
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That casino tower needs to be 1600ft plus. A real signature tower. As it stands the best views would be blocked even on the upper floors.
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The tunnel "box" beneath a portion of the site is being constructed now. It will run beneath the office tower. Another look at what's being done in regards to that and the platform...































































33rd Street, as it slopes down towards the river and the High Line. The plan is to level it.








This is where the school/office tower will rise.



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That casino tower needs to be 1600ft plus. A real signature tower. As it stands the best views would be blocked even on the upper floors.
Yea, I'm hoping and assuming these renderings are nothing final / just concepts.

Even the 1360+ envelope would be good, but I don't see that here.




Designs are top notch though and if 175 and 350 Park get built (+ whatever other giants in Midtown + 2WTC) it will more than make up for it.

Quantity of supertalls is also impressive, as is height.
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So, if they don't get the casino bid, will the tallest tower be shortened because they won't need the large base?
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That casino tower needs to be 1600ft plus. A real signature tower. As it stands the best views would be blocked even on the upper floors.
No, the whole Casino needs to go somewhere else. Gambling is a disease and should not be encouraged or rewarded.
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Related and Amtrak should also double track the Empire Tunnel as part of this project as well.
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That casino tower needs to be 1600ft plus. A real signature tower. As it stands the best views would be blocked even on the upper floors.
Certainly given the 12 billion dollars they want to spend. According to Related's statements, we should have expected a spectacular tower that we don't see in these renderings. Furthermore the office tower is very disappointing. Let's hope for some changes...
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So, if they don't get the casino bid, will the tallest tower be shortened because they won't need the large base?
if they dont get the casino bid none of it will get built.
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