2019 CFL Season - Page 23

esquire · #**441** Posted **Jun 14, 2019, 1:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by HomeInMyShoes

And then the Raptors took over the collective consciousness of Canada.

Was there a basketball game yesterday?

Because of the early start time of the Riders/Ticats I was only able to watch about 5 minutes of yesterday's game but I did see the nasty Simoni Lawrence hit on Collaros. I am not normally one to defend the Roughriders but that was a terrible below the belt (above the collar?) shot. Totally inexcusable. I'd be livid if I were a Riders fan. Lawrence deserves a suspension for that.

HomeInMyShoes · #**442** Posted **Jun 14, 2019, 2:33 PM**

Yeah he does deserve a suspension. The commentators were pretty livid about it on the radio. Given Collaros' history of concussions though, you would have to think he was one or two big sacks away from being done for half a season. That kind of gamble is on management.

Last year we lived by the big defensive or special teams touchdown. Yesterday was karma day on that front losing by six giving up a punt return touchdown. Otherwise the defence was stellar, special teams had one bad one. Offence was challenged as usual, but I thought Fajardo and Harker (minus one interception) looked pretty competent.

VANRIDERFAN · #**443** Posted **Jun 14, 2019, 3:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

Was there a basketball game yesterday?

Because of the early start time of the Riders/Ticats I was only able to watch about 5 minutes of yesterday's game but I did see the nasty Simoni Lawrence hit on Collaros. I am not normally one to defend the Roughriders but that was a terrible below the belt (above the collar?) shot. Totally inexcusable. I'd be livid if I were a Riders fan. Lawrence deserves a suspension for that.

I was at the game and because of the downpour we just got to our seats when Zack was being escorted off the field. They didn't show the replay on the big screen but I saw it on twitter later that evening. It was bad, very bad. Lawrence had ample time to get out of the way.

Cody was fine for handoffs but he needed a quicker release cause the TiCats were bringing the heat all the time.

I was impressed with Harker's poise and decision making. Is there something there? That has always been the question as the back-ups show some brilliance but later fizzle out. I have my fingers crossed!

esquire · #**444** Posted **Jun 14, 2019, 4:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by VANRIDERFAN

I was impressed with Harker's poise and decision making. Is there something there? That has always been the question as the back-ups show some brilliance but later fizzle out. I have my fingers crossed!

Not unusual for backups to have initial success before fading a bit... the element of the unknown that they bring often works to their advantage at first.

VANRIDERFAN · #**445** Posted **Jun 14, 2019, 4:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

Not unusual for backups to have initial success before fading a bit... the element of the unknown that they bring often works to their advantage at first.

Oh I know. If selecting talent was easy everyone would be doing it.

HomeInMyShoes · #**446** Posted **Jun 14, 2019, 4:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

Not unusual for backups to have initial success before fading a bit... the element of the unknown that they bring often works to their advantage at first.

Completely agreed.

Andy6 · #**447** Posted **Jun 14, 2019, 5:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

Not unusual for backups to have initial success before fading a bit... the element of the unknown that they bring often works to their advantage at first.

Some of his throws have been all-pro throws, though. Maybe he’ll be a Mitchell Gale type who doesn’t quite make it, but to my untrained eye he looks like a future starter.

SaskScraper · #**448** Posted **Jun 14, 2019, 5:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by HomeInMyShoes

And then the Raptors took over the collective consciousness of Canada.

Well, another season, another injured quarterback. In better news the two other quarterbacks looked reasonable. Fajardo looked reasonable and while Harker had two picks, one was the hail mary where the receivers need to make a better play on the ball.

Better than I expected. It was definitely weird listening to the game last night with the new announcers, but I thought the play-by-play was pretty good. Certainly not a "I can't listen to this" moment.

June 2019 is going to go down being remembered as the Month where Ontario teams relied on opposing team players injures, or out-right injuring other team players to win a game... or an entire Basketball Championship.

In the Raptors case, America is just going to view Toronto as the city which mocked an injured opposing team player as he exited the court.
And the Rider season that ended three plays into first game because of unnecessary roughing by the TigerCats targeting a player know to have head injuries.

“(Collaros) is the same guy who keeps getting targeted by players and the league isn’t doing anything about it. It’s about time the league stepped in and did something about it. It’s bulls–t … We’re looking at our season without our starting quarterback hurt and no one is doing anything about it.”

https://leaderpost.com/sports/footba...ton-tiger-cats

The S'toon Goon · #**449** Posted **Jun 15, 2019, 3:07 AM**

The consensus seems to be the hit on Collaros by Simon Lawrence was pretty dirty. Now the 25 yard penalty is certainly steeper than what would have resulted last year, but I wonder if the league would ever consider adding a misconduct so to speak. If the refs are too hesitant to throw a player out of a game maybe add a 15 minute misconduct as an option. In yesterday's case this would certainly have benefited the riders much more than if Lawrence winds up getting suspended for the next week's game against Toronto.

VANRIDERFAN · #**450** Posted **Jun 17, 2019, 12:25 PM**

So some jackass from Vancouver's letter to the editor in today's Globe waxes somewhat elegantly about Toronto's sports teams championships and cannot wait for the Argonauts to win the Super Bowl.

Are Canadians that insecure that they cannot wait to denigrate national champions and pine endlessly for recognition from our southern behemoth?

In other CFL news, should Zach Collaros retire?

esquire · #**451** Posted **Jun 17, 2019, 1:07 PM**

^ Collaros is starting to get into Buck Pierce territory now. For those who don't remember, Pierce was a much loved QB but he was getting so banged up (the fact that the Bombers OL sucked when he was on the team didn't help) that people were worried that he might be maimed or worse out on the field given that stuff like this was happening on a regular basis:

• Video Link

I trust the docs to figure out what Collaros' next step should be, though.

Anyway, nice to see the Big Blue pull out a win in BC. Not a beauty of a game by any measure but definitely some promising signs all around.

elly63 · #**452** Posted **Jun 17, 2019, 1:27 PM**

I think this might be the more famous Pierce hit which led to this

Are you guys seeing the youtube video esquire posted? I can't, can we post videos anymore or am I not just seeing it.

esquire · #**453** Posted **Jun 17, 2019, 1:30 PM**

^ I don't remember who the OL coach was in 2011 but they couldn't protect the edge for shit that year

elly63 · #**454** Posted **Jun 17, 2019, 1:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

^ I don't remember who the OL coach was in 2011 but they couldn't protect the edge for shit that year

Can you see your video?

HomeInMyShoes · #**455** Posted **Jun 17, 2019, 1:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by VANRIDERFAN

In other CFL news, should Zach Collaros retire?

I was under the opinion that he shouldn't have been back last season. Even when he came back after the injury during the season last year he wasn't even close to the same player. Zach and the Riders are just rolling the dice. It isn't even going to take a major hit to put him out for more time and we're talking -about the rest of his life here, not just his football days.

No one wants that for a player.

esquire · #**456** Posted **Jun 17, 2019, 2:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by elly63

Can you see your video?

Depends which browser... Chrome works no problem. If I run into problems I just click the link... it's one of the things I've just learned to live with. The Forum Issues subforum might have some more insight.

elly63 · #**457** Posted **Jun 17, 2019, 2:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

Depends which browser... Chrome works no problem. If I run into problems I just click the link... it's one of the things I've just learned to live with. The Forum Issues subforum might have some more insight.

I can't see it in Chrome either, I am trying to figure out if it is me or the forum.

HomeInMyShoes · #**458** Posted **Jun 17, 2019, 2:48 PM**

I'm seeing equire's video post.

elly63 · #**459** Posted **Jun 17, 2019, 2:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by HomeInMyShoes

I'm seeing equire's video post.

Ok, thanks, I see the post but it has a big empty placeholder where the video should be.

elly63 · #**460** Posted **Jun 17, 2019, 3:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by HomeInMyShoes

Yeah he does deserve a suspension. The commentators were pretty livid about it on the radio. Given Collaros' history of concussions though, you would have to think he was one or two big sacks away from being done for half a season.

Ticats LB Simoni Lawrence suspended two games for hit on Riders QB Zach Collaros
3Down Staff June 17, 2019