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Old Posted Feb 4, 2018, 9:01 PM
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I was unaware but One Bloor East has the fastest elevator in a North American residential building. A Kone Jump Lift elevator. Also they didn't do what many developers have done to attract certain investors. The building actually has 4's doesn't skip the 40's and actually has a 13th floor. It's about time we moved away from ridiculous superstitions.
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2018, 10:18 PM
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Meh....Settle down Nancy! Yeah....so this is happening lol.

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My comment wasn’t even negative. I was defending coldrsx from someone else commenting on the mega volume of updates from Edmonton. You need better reading comprehension skills.

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I was unaware but One Bloor East has the fastest elevator in a North American residential building. A Kone Jump Lift elevator. Also they didn't do what many developers have done to attract certain investors. The building actually has 4's doesn't skip the 40's and actually has a 13th floor. It's about time we moved away from ridiculous superstitions.
I'm glad this thing has some more sense in its room numbering....it's crazy how many buildings in the world follow the imperative that "4 is bad! 13 is unlucky!" with respects to labelling floors and units. That's wild that the elevator is what it is. What's the speed, I'm thinking of what it could be compared to the CN towers elevator (22 mph I think, maybe kph).
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2018, 11:35 PM
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I was unaware but One Bloor East has the fastest elevator in a North American residential building. A Kone Jump Lift elevator. Also they didn't do what many developers have done to attract certain investors. The building actually has 4's doesn't skip the 40's and actually has a 13th floor. It's about time we moved away from ridiculous superstitions.
Where to start. No one skips the 40s. There are numerous developers that don't skip numbers ending in fours. Only those that skip 4s skip 13s as well. (Because it would look even worse to skip the 4s but not the 13s) The 13th floor superstition was rarely used for decades before developers dropping 4s for Asian investors resurrected it to make their decision appear less focused on one particular foreign culture.
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2018, 11:42 PM
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I'm glad this thing has some more sense in its room numbering....it's crazy how many buildings in the world follow the imperative that "4 is bad! 13 is unlucky!" with respects to labelling floors and units. That's wild that the elevator is what it is. What's the speed, I'm thinking of what it could be compared to the CN towers elevator (22 mph I think, maybe kph).
More speed means fewer elevators and Toronto developers love fewer elevators. I think you'll find Toronto has a lot of fast elevators.

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Old Posted Feb 4, 2018, 11:45 PM
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I'm more aware of the elevator issues that plague the city now. Apparently there's a good demand for those who repair elevators and unsurprisingly for something like repairs on heating and AC systems in buildings.
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2018, 3:58 AM
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Where to start. No one skips the 40s. There are numerous developers that don't skip numbers ending in fours. Only those that skip 4s skip 13s as well. (Because it would look even worse to skip the 4s but not the 13s) The 13th floor superstition was rarely used for decades before developers dropping 4s for Asian investors resurrected it to make their decision appear less focused on one particular foreign culture.

Really? That's funny my hotel in Vegas did. Does Vegas count as a somewhere? Palms place Hotel no 40's skips from 39 -50.
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2018, 5:07 AM
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What's funny is that you think some hotel in Vegas skipping floors is of relevance. What an obscure, random factoid to formulate a generalization of high rise floor numbering in Toronto.

Any office tower after 1970 and any condo after 1980 is far more likely to have a 13th floor than without. Afterall, I've gone through hundreds and hundreds of assessment rolls to get the number of units for all the towers.

I don't remember seeing one but, there still could be one out there. It will take you time to find one. Find me a post 2000 build without a 13th floor but has all the 4s and than you can laugh.

Otherwise, I don't think you are making a good impression of yourself. Cool. You went to Vegas.
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2018, 2:43 PM
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What's funny is that you think some hotel in Vegas skipping floors is of relevance.

What's also funny is you don't see it as relevant even though you said "No one skips the 40s" which simply isn't true. Sorry if you find facts irrelevant. You and Trump would get along just great I bet.

Curious Whipper, do you wake up in the morning some days and decide I'm going to go on SP and spread my old man grumpiness all over. lol I'm going to ignore you again since it seems you are only capable of not trolling for more then a few days at a time. Just because you you don't agree with somebody's opinion doesn't mean you can make up your own facts. Life doesn't work that way,



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Old Posted Feb 5, 2018, 3:28 PM
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You don't even realize how foolish you are looking right now continuing with this absurdity. It should have been abundantly clear I wasn't speaking about what happens around the world. Obviously, I don't have a clue what goes on in the hundreds of thousands of elevators around the world.

Also, you're so focused on the 40s that you haven't even noticed the elevator or set of elevators skips 4 to 21. Here is where your entire theory that those floors were skipped by superstition rather than being serviced by another set of elevators you didn't have access to falls apart. There are 24th and 34th floor call buttons.

I'm guessing 40 to 49 are exclusive floors (maybe condos) for which you weren't invited. 50 and 51 are maybe a high priced club which everyone can access. Common sense rarely lets me down. I wonder how close I am.



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Old Posted Feb 5, 2018, 5:03 PM
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I never saw this posted but it's interesting hearing the description of the tower around the 8 minute mark. It looks like it was a packed house at Roy Thompson Hall for this event. I had no idea there would be a pool on top of the tower at 1005 ft for the penthouse suits. Also the little details like the number of suits (416) Toronto's area code. Also these elevators will again introduce a new fastest for residential. With A.I technology they will travel at speeds of 1600ft per minute.

Sam Mizrahi introduces THE ONE Residences by Mizrahi Developments

Sam Mizrahi of Mizrahi Developments unveils THE ONE Residences - Toronto's Super Structure which will become Canada's tallest building. This presentation took place at Roy Thomson Hall. This is the complete presentation.
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2018, 8:47 PM
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I'm more aware of the elevator issues that plague the city now. Apparently there's a good demand for those who repair elevators and unsurprisingly for something like repairs on heating and AC systems in buildings.
Unfortunately, I've heard horror stories about this union. There's hundreds of new elevators put in operation every year just in Toronto. I'm guessing it isn't much more than 10 well paid full time jobs every year. The tech I know was in charge of 100 elevators in an office complex and they kept him busy for the whole year.

That's the thing with these faster, larger elevators. One goes down and suddenly you only have 5 for a building with 800 suites.
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The struggles are well-documented in the the newer Condo buildings downtown. Ice condos is the landing ground for a ton of recent graduates looking for their first rental downtown (not to mention a ton of weekend Airbnb'ers who probably put a fair amount of strain on the elevators). I've probably been there 30+ times and never has every elevator been working.
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I wonder if The One's elevators will see less wear and tear since they are supposed to learn the habits of the residents. Or if the new technology will be riddled with breakdowns.
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Old Posted Feb 6, 2018, 3:55 PM
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I wonder if The One's elevators will see less wear and tear since they are supposed to learn the habits of the residents. Or if the new technology will be riddled with breakdowns.
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It will save on wear and tear but, i've been stuck in elevators several times. Each time, the mechanical systems were sound and the elevator was back in service minutes after I was out. It wasn't a breakdown in the safety sensor net either but, it was the cause of it. Changes in air pressure within the shafts caused the elevator doors to not fully seal and tripped the sensors. The tech told me a door propped open somewhere in the building could have caused the increase in pressure.

All that said, a heavily regulated inspection schedule possibly programmed into the elevator systems is probably the cause for all the downed elevators in new condos. That's not going to change with The One's programming. That can only change from within the union.
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I wonder if The One's elevators will see less wear and tear since they are supposed to learn the habits of the residents. Or if the new technology will be riddled with breakdowns.
New elevator technology is pretty good. Our new destination dispatch system has only had a few minor glitches and has performed well.

Problems with elevators in condominium buildings are symptomatic of the common issues with condos, mainly lower quality construction, lower quality equipment and lack of proper commissioning of building systems. With the new code that was just introduced it should improve for elevators. But for anyone who's involved in their condo complex I highly recommend contracting an elevator consultant such as KJA to review the execution of the elevator contract. Because unless you've got an elevator guy on your condo board, no one in your building is going to have the first clue what's entailed in that contract or whether the contract's performance specs are being met.
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New elevator technology is pretty good. Our new destination dispatch system has only had a few minor glitches and has performed well.
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If you go to the 11:25 min mark they talk about the elevators for The One. It's pretty interesting.

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