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Old Posted Mar 20, 2010, 10:49 PM
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An arena is the thing that the city needs. Garrett Coliseum is too far from downtown to have any impact, and I don't hear about anyone ever using it. A multi use facility is a must, but it can't be some small measly building, it needs to be something that can host basketball and arena football, something that compete with cities that it is competing with for tourist dollars.

Chattanooga has McKenzie Arena at UTC, which is good facility and pretty close to downtown.
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2010, 11:42 PM
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An arena is the thing that the city needs. Garrett Coliseum is too far from downtown to have any impact, and I don't hear about anyone ever using it. A multi use facility is a must, but it can't be some small measly building, it needs to be something that can host basketball and arena football, something that compete with cities that it is competing with for tourist dollars.

Chattanooga has McKenzie Arena at UTC, which is good facility and pretty close to downtown.
Totally agree. If it's going to be built downtown, don't half-...uhh...step it.
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This needs to be a one and done multi purpose building, that seats at least 20k !

Please Montgomery, don't half ass this .

This could lead way to major concerts, professional sports, college championships, etc .
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2010, 2:09 AM
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This needs to be a one and done multi purpose building, that seats at least 20k !

Please Montgomery, don't half ass this .

This could lead way to major concerts, professional sports, college championships, etc .
Yes, and it must be downtown. The mayor talked about the sports event that had such a great time here that they want to double the size of the event next year. But that's because they enjoyed the venue being downtown.


BTW, if the state wants to waste $30M to "upgrade" the Garrett Coliseum, go ahead. But the coliseum offers nothing but a run-down neighborhood and no hotel rooms.
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I mean, I'd like to see Garrett upgraded, cause I think the architecture is just really cool. Take it, I've never seen it in person...

Anyways, I agree with you. Unless the "upgrade" was part of a greater improvement to the entire area around the coliseum, that money needs to be invested in a new arena. OR, they could invest that money into a new state house, and let the city deal with the area business.
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Montgomery's leaders don't have to look far to see potential, just look what the Superdome [New Orleans] & the Georgia Dome did for those respective cities in the 80's and 90's .
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I've been in Jacksonville this weekend for the NCAA tourney, and what they have is the type of thing we really need in Montgomery. It's a 15,000 seat arena with only a 3 sided upper level, broken down so it can be cut in half to serve as a traditional concert hall, or use the whole thing as an arena concert venue...

It's also right by the baseball stadium, so it has all the bars, eateries, and whatnot to have a tremendous atmosphere for different events.




this is the "theatre" end.
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BTW, if the state wants to waste $30M to "upgrade" the Garrett Coliseum, go ahead. But the coliseum offers nothing but a run-down neighborhood and no hotel rooms.
As a proud resident of Capitol Heights I must take issue with your characterization of the neighborhood. We have a charming neighborhood.
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I'm with you on that one ^^^

My parents reside on one of the streets that backs up to Bonnie Crest, & they wouldn't trade it for anything out East or in Prattville.

That's the equivalent of a suburbanite calling Old Cloverdale run down.
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Capitol Heights it's charms... but the Coliseum isn't in Capitol Heights. It's in Chisolm.
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Capitol Heights it's charms... but the Coliseum isn't in Capitol Heights. It's in Chisolm.
I still think it's in a good "location" and renovations of it should be done. It's a great venue for certain types of events IMO.

Montgomery needs the Arena downtown, BAD. The Court SQ location doesn't seem like enough room, & how would parking be addressed?
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As a proud resident of Capitol Heights I must take issue with your characterization of the neighborhood. We have a charming neighborhood.
I was referring to Chisolm. Plain and simple.

Capitol Heights never came into my mind.
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I'm with you on that one ^^^

My parents reside on one of the streets that backs up to Bonnie Crest, & they wouldn't trade it for anything out East or in Prattville.

That's the equivalent of a suburbanite calling Old Cloverdale run down.
Naw, don't even try to compare Old Cloverdale to Chisolm my friend.
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Capitol Heights it's charms... but the Coliseum isn't in Capitol Heights. It's in Chisolm.
Exactly. That's all I was sayin'. Thanks thoraudio.
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I still think it's in a good "location" and renovations of it should be done. It's a great venue for certain types of events IMO.

Montgomery needs the Arena downtown, BAD. The Court SQ location doesn't seem like enough room, & how would parking be addressed?
Those have always been my original arguments against putting an arena there. But there's always a way, I guess. If you really want to know how, let's ask thoraudio...
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Naw, don't even try to compare Old Cloverdale to Chisolm my friend.
Thank you! ;-)
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A Nice Arena

I agree with the earlier post that we should follow the Jacksonville Fla model and build a nice 15,000 multi-purpose arena. It would be great i think it should be where the fans can park for the Biscuits games a couple of blocks away. I would also love to see a nice 40,000 seat stadium to replace Cramton Bowl it would sit next too the arena. You could then host the Super 6 Football Championships. and all other Football games possibly get that Papa John's Bowl Game etc.
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I agree with the earlier post that we should follow the Jacksonville Fla model and build a nice 15,000 multi-purpose arena. It would be great i think it should be where the fans can park for the Biscuits games a couple of blocks away. I would also love to see a nice 40,000 seat stadium to replace Cramton Bowl it would sit next too the arena. You could then host the Super 6 Football Championships. and all other Football games possibly get that Papa John's Bowl Game etc.

lol, I'd be happy just to get the Blue-Gray game renewed.
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Here are some pics from the Montgomery Advertiser from a couple of weeks ago, when they were announcing the new businesses for the Alley.



































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House OKs funds for Garrett Coliseum

By Sebastian Kitchen • [email protected] • March 24, 2010

The Alabama House of Representatives helped move the goal of an improved Garrett Coliseum a step closer to reality on Tuesday.

The House unanimously approved a bill that would direct $800,000 a year to the board that oversees the state facility to help renovate and update the coliseum.

"There's a lot of events they could bring in if they had adequate facilities over there," said state Rep. Jay Love, a Republican with the facility in his district.

Love and Rep. John Knight, a Montgomery Democrat who sponsored the legislation, agreed that an improved coliseum would help attract events that could bring more people to the region. Love said that in turn would help bring revenue to the city and county.

Knight said studies have shown the state and the area are losing money because the coliseum has not been able to attract national rodeos and other activities.

He said the legislation guarantees the flow of money to the coliseum.
Knight said the money could be used for a $30 million bond issue to improve the facility. The $800,000 would help secure the necessary pledged revenue to go to the bond market, he said.

The decisions about the future of the facility are left up to the Alabama Agricultural Center Board and that panel has until 2014 to assemble a plan, Knight said. He added that the agreement would be voided if a plan is not enacted by 2014.

Knight said the city and county could add more funding and find private investors.

He said the area needs a multipurpose facility.

"It's the right thing to do," Knight said.

Love graduated from high school in the facility, which has hosted graduations, concerts, rodeos and a variety of other events.

When it was built, Garrett Coliseum was considered a Montgomery marvel, a showcase for the city. But that was more than half a century ago, and the coliseum has had little work done on it since the first activity took place there in 1951.

"That place is falling apart," Love said. "They've got to do something."
Coliseum manager Bill Johnson has worked at the coliseum for about 20 years, and has said for years that there is much that needs to be redone there to keep the facility viable.

He has said that the coliseum's transformer is the building's original one, and that if it fails it would take about 16 weeks for it to be repaired. Estimates show that it could cost more than $75,000 to replace, and that figure doesn't include the wiring, also original, throughout the building that would need to be replaced.

He said the concession stands are not adequate and the bathroom facilities need to be upgraded, and the building's exterior deteriorated drainage system is the source of Johnson's frustration every time it rains.

"We have a roof now that is on a 20-year guarantee that is probably 26 years old," he said in a Montgomery Advertiser story last week. "There are a lot of water problems and leakage. It is still very safe, but it can be renovated and be a showplace again."

Love said he has seen plans that show facilities for horse shows at the coliseum. He said those bring in a "tremendous amount of revenue."
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