Metro Vancouver Road Infrastructure Discussion

[trofirhen]

Added this for interest and comparison to other cities; Vancouver's ranking for traffic congestion. News article, then ranking. Perhaps an indication of future traffic infrastructure needs.
"Will increased transit development mitigate this" is perhaps a timely question here.


https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vanc...323d1-93793493

https://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/traffic...untry=CA,MX,US

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

Added this for interest and comparison to other cities; Vancouver's ranking for traffic congestion. News article, then ranking. Perhaps an indication of future traffic infrastructure needs.
"Will increased transit development mitigate this" is perhaps a timely question here.


https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vanc...323d1-93793493

https://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/traffic...untry=CA,MX,US

See previous years comments. TomTom's methodology is widely discredited - (another comment here). Note that 'Data' is for a wider area, not the city.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Yeah, anybody thinking that we're more backed up than Manhattan, L.A. or Toronto really needs to get out more.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Yeah, anybody thinking that we're more backed up than Manhattan, L.A. or Toronto really needs to get out more.

They also have insane amounts of lanes and highways everywhere.

[libtard]

This winter weather really did a number on highway 1. I’ve never seen so many pot holes on a HIGHWAY before. And our solution is to patch that single hole, not resurface large sections of highway. The condition of our highways is shameful

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by libtard

This winter weather really did a number on highway 1. I’ve never seen so many pot holes on a HIGHWAY before. And our solution is to patch that single hole, not resurface large sections of highway. The condition of our highways is shameful

I do not have a car and only drove in Vancouver many years ago, but IMO you are totally right on with that. European highways - in the EU, anyway, - are normally built solidly and well signed and signalled.
Even Prague ( metro pop'n:: 2.6+ million) has a relatively small central freeway but it is very well designed as shown.
the tunnel by car:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFFW1_kF5K8
here the freeway ring of Prague
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QroqJQnnR2U
One thing to remark in the second video is the fluidity with which the freeway takes in random stop lights and street entrances.
That might be particularly suited to Vancouver with its geographically restrained and low lane-space road system.
But, yes, referring back, I remember thinking the same thing way back, when driving in Vancouver. Repairs are only temporary.
Does anybody wish to see a better maintained road and highway system? Drive to Seattle. It might be an education in itself.
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To round this post out, I am inserting a clip about the Autoroute 86 in Paris.
This the outer ring, or second beltway of the metro Paris region(11 million +//-), as in Toronto metro (7 million +//-) and other large cities.
It is impressive, with doubled deck tunnels and advanced design. Built and owned by VINCI Corp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO_jr-zewYc

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

Does anybody wish to see a better maintained road and highway system? Drive to Seattle. It might be an education in itself.

I think Seattle has as bad, or maybe a worse problem with road repairs.

[scottN]

Originally Posted by Changing City

I think Seattle has as bad, or maybe a worse problem with road repairs.

I read somewhere that in Edmonton the potholes are so bad that the university started a resereach lab dedicated to potholes.

[SpongeG]

yes they are pretty bad in Edmonton. We are pretty spoiled in the lower mainland.

[libtard]

Originally Posted by Changing City

I think Seattle has as bad, or maybe a worse problem with road repairs.

Not even close. I’ve never seen a pothole on a HIGHWAY in Seattle

[Dengler Avenue]

Oh come on... Wanna see good highways? Come over to Ontario and drive on our 400-series freeways. Even in winter, as well.

[Klazu]

Originally Posted by libtard

This winter weather really did a number on highway 1. I’ve never seen so many pot holes on a HIGHWAY before. And our solution is to patch that single hole, not resurface large sections of highway. The condition of our highways is shameful

Also the entire four-lane section of Highway 99 through Squamish is full of potholes. Easily 50+ bad potholes within just few kilometres.

[s211]

Originally Posted by scottN

I read somewhere that in Edmonton the potholes are so bad that the university started a resereach lab dedicated to potholes.

Edmonton also apparently used a bad asphalt recipe for a couple of decades, so their roads are crumbling. Going from memory, I think they removed fly ash from the mix and the roads aren't lasting. This could all be an urban myth but something in my mind tells me not.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by libtard

Not even close. I’ve never seen a pothole on a HIGHWAY in Seattle

The I5 is awful throughout most of Washington state.

[cornholio]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

I do not have a car and only drove in Vancouver many years ago, but IMO you are totally right on with that. European highways - in the EU, anyway, - are normally built solidly and well signed and signalled.
Even Prague ( metro pop'n:: 2.6+ million) has a relatively small central freeway but it is very well designed as shown.
the tunnel by car:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFFW1_kF5K8
here the freeway ring of Prague
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QroqJQnnR2U
One thing to remark in the second video is the fluidity with which the freeway takes in random stop lights and street entrances.
That might be particularly suited to Vancouver with its geographically restrained and low lane-space road system.
But, yes, referring back, I remember thinking the same thing way back, when driving in Vancouver. Repairs are only temporary.
Does anybody wish to see a better maintained road and highway system? Drive to Seattle. It might be an education in itself.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
To round this post out, I am inserting a clip about the Autoroute 86 in Paris.
This the outer ring, or second beltway of the metro Paris region(11 million +//-), as in Toronto metro (7 million +//-) and other large cities.
It is impressive, with doubled deck tunnels and advanced design. Built and owned by VINCI Corp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO_jr-zewYc

I live in the Prague region and the infrustructure is fantastic and they keep building more. One thing that helps is integrated smart lights all over the city. They are all optimized to work together to get traffic and people amd everything moving as efficiently as possible. Also at night intersections with lights go into a flashing yellow mode so you dont get red lights with no traffic at say 2 am. Streets with lights have signs that go in effect when the lights are off or flashing. Be it a stop sign or yield sign or a main street sign.

Anyways about highways in europe they are concrete and the designs are complex. Highways in BC are just asphalt poured over top of some gravel. That's why it falls apart.
https://youtu.be/l6HQNiq9MHU

The layers are also quite complex and have technologically advanced over the decades. I the video they dont show all the layers bellow.

[CanSpice]

Originally Posted by libtard

Not even close. I’ve never seen a pothole on a HIGHWAY in Seattle

Huh, yeah, there's never been a pothole on I-5.

[flipper316]

Originally Posted by Changing City

I think Seattle has as bad, or maybe a worse problem with road repairs.

At least they have proper cats eyes and lane markings.

[flipper316]

Originally Posted by cornholio

I live in the Prague region and the infrustructure is fantastic and they keep building more. One thing that helps is integrated smart lights all over the city. They are all optimized to work together to get traffic and people amd everything moving as efficiently as possible. Also at night intersections with lights go into a flashing yellow mode so you dont get red lights with no traffic at say 2 am. Streets with lights have signs that go in effect when the lights are off or flashing. Be it a stop sign or yield sign or a main street sign.

Anyways about highways in europe they are concrete and the designs are complex. Highways in BC are just asphalt poured over top of some gravel. That's why it falls apart.
https://youtu.be/l6HQNiq9MHU

The layers are also quite complex and have technologically advanced over the decades. I the video they dont show all the layers bellow.

Wish we had smart lights here. But of course here everything is geared to create as much stress and delays as mush as possible for car drivers .

[libtard]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

The I5 is awful throughout most of Washington state.

This is an outright lie. I-5 through Whatcom county is very smooth. Like you literally notice it as soon as you cross the border. And there isn’t a patch work of small piece-meal resurfacing. Large sections are resurfaced at once, making true chance of potholes occurring much less likely. I-5 is bad through Washington state lol what a lie

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by libtard

This is an outright lie. I-5 through Whatcom county is very smooth. Like you literally notice it as soon as you cross the border. And there isn’t a patch work of small piece-meal resurfacing. Large sections are resurfaced at once, making true chance of potholes occurring much less likely. I-5 is bad through Washington state lol what a lie

I just did a round trip to southern California along the I5 primarily.

WA is the worst, by far. Van-Seattle is arguably worse that Seattle-Portland, but but are bad. Within the city of Seattle is awful.

BC (highway 99) and Oregon are both good, California is great, especially the long stretch from Northern to Southern Cali.

So ya, go do that drive and stop making excuses.