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the urban politician · #**44241** Posted **Mar 13, 2019, 2:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by moorhosj

Not sure if this is best here or the politics thread.

Lots of information from Crain's.

^ The new building code requires a sprinkler system in 4 or more unit buildings.

What a great way to save money!

Busy Bee · #**44242** Posted **Mar 13, 2019, 2:51 PM**

And a great way to encourage developers to build a 3 unit building when the lot could support 4+.

A solution in search of a problem as the saying goes.

OrdoSeclorum · #**44243** Posted **Mar 13, 2019, 3:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Busy Bee

And a great way to encourage developers to build a 3 unit building when the lot could support 4+.

A solution in search of a problem as the saying goes.

I don't know what I think about this yet. But this... "To encourage continued development, buildings with sprinkler systems are allowed greater height, floor count and floor area per construction type, according to the release."

...might do the opposite? Someone who might have the right to build a four unit building may now be able to build six? It might push/allow for more density?

Busy Bee · #**44244** Posted **Mar 13, 2019, 3:36 PM**

Ahh, I guess I should have read it... We'll see how this plays out.

west-town-brad · #**44245** Posted **Mar 13, 2019, 4:03 PM**

zoning change sign was going up today next to the AM 1980 building and the Margie's Candy rehab. I think it's a new 4 level apartment building on a pretty tiny vacant lot backing up to the L.

LouisVanDerWright · #**44246** Posted **Mar 13, 2019, 4:08 PM**

Most other cities already require sprinklers in multi units. This doesn't affect existing buildings, just new construction and will be more than made up for by the savings of being able to use Pex and PVC instead of copper and cast iron.

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Originally Posted by moorhosj

Not sure if this is best here or the politics thread.

Lots of information from Crain's.

"The last major revision to the building code was in 1949"

What. The. Fuck.

This quote alone is all you need to see how goddamn corrupt this city is. How does the 4th or 5th largest urban economy in the world rely on a building code that hasn't changed since the end of WWII? Only when the powers that be want to use archaic code to benefit themselves.

Case in point: Rahm is a reformer...

LouisVanDerWright · #**44247** Posted **Mar 13, 2019, 4:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by west-town-brad

zoning change sign was going up today next to the AM 1980 building and the Margie's Candy rehab. I think it's a new 4 level apartment building on a pretty tiny vacant lot backing up to the L.

LaSpata will demand it be 90% affordable housing I'm sure...

west-town-brad · #**44248** Posted **Mar 13, 2019, 4:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright

LaSpata will demand it be 90% affordable housing I'm sure...

perhaps, but when do the new aldercreatures get sworn in? April/May?

Procco Joe can pay back a lot of favors in 2 months!

west-town-brad · #**44249** Posted **Mar 13, 2019, 4:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by west-town-brad

perhaps, but when do the new aldercreatures get sworn in? April/May?

Procco Joe can pay back a lot of favors in 2 months!

anyway, it's this thing: http://www.kifdev.com/1966-north-milwaukee

Vlajos · #**44250** Posted **Mar 13, 2019, 5:02 PM**

https://www.chicagotribune.com/class...324-story.html

Ramirez Rosa, Marie Hadden, and Byron Sigcho can all look forward to reductions in rental units in their wards with their insane advocacy for rent control. Gentrification will only be more powerful and push out more people.

k1052 · #**44251** Posted **Mar 13, 2019, 6:20 PM**

If the city is really going to revise code then how about allowing those 4 and 5 over 1s that are going up everywhere west of the Mississippi.

Skyguy_7 · #**44252** Posted **Mar 13, 2019, 7:09 PM**

In today's less-exciting news, A 12,000 sq ft office building, Chick-Fil-A and a landscaped parking lot are coming to the Northeast corner of Fullerton and Damen, on the Vienna Beef property. Restaurant will be on the southeast corner of the lot in question. Much akin to the McDonalds-big box property nearby.

Steely Dan · #**44253** Posted **Mar 13, 2019, 7:14 PM**

^ i want to be upset by that, but the elston corridor up to diversey is a completely suburbanized lost cause at this point anyway.

nomarandlee · #**44254** Posted **Mar 13, 2019, 7:30 PM**

^^ Are we talking about the lots just north or south of Elston? If talking about south of Elston that's really too bad. Thought it would make a very good location for a pocket park there.

.....The West side of Elston I have absolutely no issue being an auto-center retail hellscape. It makes sense give proximity to the Kennedy and UP-NW train embankment. It would be nice to see the east side of Elston eventually turn into a continuous walkable mixed-use neighborhood continuation along the north bank however.

the urban politician · #**44255** Posted **Mar 13, 2019, 7:30 PM**

^ It's almost better if we allow some auto oriented development in a few defined areas and corridors as a "release valve" so that we can focus on making the rest of the city as urban as possible

marothisu · #**44256** Posted **Mar 13, 2019, 11:42 PM**

There is a zoning application to renovate 1100 W Fulton Market (Fulton Market & Aberdeen) into retail and office with a new 5 story addition on the small surface lot to the west of the building. This is a block from Google.

By the way, I think TUP was talking about it but yes there's demand. Not only did a company looking to expand their office space big time have to turn down Fulton Market because there was no office space available ASAP for their size, but another company ServiceNow has just leased 2 floors (48,000 sq ft) at 1201 W Lake (https://www.chicagobusiness.com/comm...-fulton-market). Demand is definitely there.

Current: https://www.google.com/maps/place/11...!4d-87.6547591

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LouisVanDerWright · #**44257** Posted **Mar 14, 2019, 12:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by marothisu

There is a zoning application to renovate 1100 W Fulton Market (Fulton Market & Aberdeen) into retail and office with a new 5 story addition on the small surface lot to the west of the building. This is a block from Google.

By the way, I think TUP was talking about it but yes there's demand. Not only did a company looking to expand their office space big time have to turn down Fulton Market because there was no office space available ASAP for their size, but another company ServiceNow has just leased 2 floors (48,000 sq ft) at 1201 W Lake (https://www.chicagobusiness.com/comm...-fulton-market). Demand is definitely there.

Who wasn't able to find space?

marothisu · #**44258** Posted **Mar 14, 2019, 12:10 AM**

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Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright

Who wasn't able to find space?

Upwork which is based in Mountain View, CA. This is from January 30th. They are going to go near OPO at 525 W Van Buren and leasing nearly 70,000 sq ft. Based on my calculations, they are probably going to be adding another 400-500+ people in Chicago. Current office is 224 N Desplaines.

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/comm...est-loop-lease

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Fulton Market didn't have the immediately available space for Upwork to grow, according to Gilpin, which sent the company looking elsewhere.

"Union Station is one of the fastest-growing areas in the West Loop and a key transportation hub," Gilpin's statement said. "Our team is excited to be part of its revitalization and tech expansion, while remaining centrally adjacent to the river and central loop."

Steely Dan · #**44259** Posted **Mar 14, 2019, 2:22 PM**

* moderator note *

all discussion of the new One Central mega-development over the IC tracks has been moved to the highrise thread: https://forum.skyscraperpage.com/sho...26#post8505426

chicagodeckerdude · #**44260** Posted **Mar 14, 2019, 4:26 PM**

Who's gonna start a thread for the "One Central" mega development proposal in the south loop next to soldier field?