Metro Vancouver Road Infrastructure Discussion

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

What is this obsession with having City Square connected with the station?

Do you expect a tiny little underground pathway all the way? Or are your plans more grand?

Given a blank cheque, a fantasy PATH network would connect to City Square, City Hall, OV Station, VGH and all the basements in-between, as with downtown Singapore's MRT network. We obviously lack the demand and budget for such right now, but some of the forum appears to want at least a mission statement.

Me, I'd be happy with a second entrance on the NW.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by officedweller

It was diverted around Ladner to calm traffic within Ladner. The old highway now 17A divided neighbourhoods.

Was the east half of Ladner there before 17A was? Because if not, then Delta's outrage about the Massey Bridge just became somewhat ironic.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by aberdeen5698

As far as I'm concerned when I'm driving from the ferry into Vancouver it's just plain dumb to divert so far east in order to access the tunnel - so I always take 17A anyway.

I do too.

[officedweller]

If driving on Monday Oct 7th avoid the Burrard Bridge area:

Vancouver's Burrard Bridge will be targeted next week in Extinction Rebellion's international climate protests
https://www.straight.com/news/130940...ion-rebellions


Protesters planning to shut down Burrard Bridge on Monday for climate protest
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/burr...limate-protest

[officedweller]

Pic by me
- traffic backed up across Granville Bridge due to the Burrard Bridge protests

[Klazu]

Oh, the protesters eventually showed up? I read that it was dead empty in the morning when it was raining. Now, who on Earth would want to protest in the rain?!

[flipper316]

https://www.delta-optimist.com/news/...oad-1.23967593

[Dengler Avenue]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Pic by me
- traffic backed up across Granville Bridge due to the Burrard Bridge protests

Are you trying to show the irony that a climate-change protest ended up causing more CO2 to be emitted?

[flipper316]

https://www.delta-optimist.com/news/...nue-1.23966387

[Dengler Avenue]

Originally Posted by flipper316

https://www.delta-optimist.com/news/...oad-1.23967593

I’m surprised that Highway 99 parallels Ladner Trunk Road for quite a bit yet that the latter sees so much traffic still. Time to complete that RIRO (White Rock direction) at 80th Street?

[whatnext]

I wonder how many tonnes of GHG were released by all those idling cars? Or how many ambulances were delayed getting to St.Paul’s?

[Dengler Avenue]

Originally Posted by whatnext

I wonder how many tonnes of GHG were released by all those idling cars? Or how many ambulances were delayed getting to St.Paul’s?

hence my question in #4395

[officedweller]

Apparently they let ambulances through the blockade.

[s211]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Apparently they let ambulances through the blockade.

Were they electric?

[s211]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Are you trying to show the irony that a climate-change protest ended up causing more CO2 to be emitted?

Apparently the ends justify the means?

[Dengler Avenue]

Originally Posted by s211

Apparently the ends justify the means?

Woah exposing hypocrisy now, huh?

Is it just me, or has this thread all of a sudden been politically(?) charged? We are supposed to be talking about roads.

But yea, back to Ladner Trunk Road. Perhaps time for a new (well-spaced) exit from Highway 99 somewhere between SFPR and Matthews Exchange?

[tovan]

Originally Posted by Firebrand

If you want to widen Hwy 91 to three lanes each way, that also means you have to widen the 91 Connector for continuity reasons, which is a non-starter when you have New West refusing to widen the Queensborough.

Why?

1 lane would exit to 91 Connector to N.West and 2 lanes would continue through to Delta, which is the existing condition EB. Hwy 91 already widens to 3 lanes running parallel with Westminster Hwy shortly after the S-Curve.

WB, you have an existing condition where 1 lane from 91 Connector and 2 from Delta/AFB merge into 2 lanes just before Westminster Hwy. If 91 is widened to 3 lanes each direction, the only difference would be the continuation of the Westminster Hwy on-ramp as a 3rd lane instead of merging back into 2 lanes.

[go_leafs_go02]

Posted in the Surrey Rapid Transit thread, but likely relevant to the Road Infrastructure thread as well:

Here's something interesting I've gleaned...

It looks like Fraser Highway from Highway 15 (176 Street) east to Highway 13 (264 Street) is being uploaded by the Province (via the Langley Bypass) and will be known again formally as Highway 1A as of January 1, 2020.

I wonder if it's rapid transit related (SkyTrain) and perhaps will get Fraser Highway widened through Langley?

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/dr..._bc_201907.pdf

Go to page 79 as written within the PDF.

[fredinno]

Originally Posted by go_leafs_go02

Here's something interesting I've gleaned...

It looks like Fraser Highway from Highway 15 (176 Street) east to Highway 13 (264 Street) is being uploaded by the Province (via the Langley Bypass) and will be known again formally as Highway 1A as of January 1, 2020.

I wonder if it's rapid transit related (SkyTrain) and perhaps will get Fraser Highway widened through Langley?

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/dr..._bc_201907.pdf

Go to page 79 as written within the PDF.

<copied from SOF RT thread>

Strange. Really Strange. The only thing I could think of that makes any sense for 1A to be brought back from the dead is because Pautello is a provincial project now- but that's clearly not the case. I guess it'd make some sense that they want to avoid attracting more traffic in NEFC and New West.

1A doesn't really need to be widened for Skytrain as there's already infill space for new lanes from HWY 15 to Langley Bypass. LRT would have needed more space, and there's no reason to extend the revived 1A all the way to Aldergrove.

Maybe it's related to truck traffic in South-Central Langley- but unless there's plans to turn the Salmon River Uplands into a industrial park, there's not much to service on that section. That'd require a ALR and Metro Vancouver RGS amendment though. That's the only thing I can think of that makes sense.

Strange. Very Strange.



Also, side note, nobody seems have any real clue where HWY 7 starts or ends. Perhaps the reason the signage for most of the old highways remain is BECAUSE the old secondary highway network is "technically" still there. There's no 'Metro Vancouver/TransLink Highway' designation, so they just keep the old highways in limbo territory where they can pretend the old highways simultaneously exist and not exist. Quantum Highways. (Except for HWY 10 from HWY 1 to Albion Ferry, for obvious reasons)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:B...mbia_Highway_7

Another side note: I find it hilarious HWY 99A still technically exists as the 2 segments where 99 and 99A used to connect. It's not like that for 7A/Hastings, and they removed that for 1A on Georgia.

[go_leafs_go02]

Originally Posted by fredinno

<copied from SOF RT thread>

Strange. Really Strange. The only thing I could think of that makes any sense for 1A to be brought back from the dead is because Pautello is a provincial project now- but that's clearly not the case. I guess it'd make some sense that they want to avoid attracting more traffic in NEFC and New West.

1A doesn't really need to be widened for Skytrain as there's already infill space for new lanes from HWY 15 to Langley Bypass. LRT would have needed more space, and there's no reason to extend the revived 1A all the way to Aldergrove.

Maybe it's related to truck traffic in South-Central Langley- but unless there's plans to turn the Salmon River Uplands into a industrial park, there's not much to service on that section. That'd require a ALR and Metro Vancouver RGS amendment though. That's the only thing I can think of that makes sense.

Strange. Very Strange.



Also, side note, nobody seems have any real clue where HWY 7 starts or ends. Perhaps the reason the signage for most of the old highways remain is BECAUSE the old secondary highway network is "technically" still there. There's no 'Metro Vancouver/TransLink Highway' designation, so they just keep the old highways in limbo territory where they can pretend the old highways simultaneously exist and not exist. Quantum Highways. (Except for HWY 10 from HWY 1 to Albion Ferry, for obvious reasons)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:B...mbia_Highway_7

Another side note: I find it hilarious HWY 99A still technically exists as the 2 segments where 99 and 99A used to connect. It's not like that for 7A/Hastings, and they removed that for 1A on Georgia.

Yeah, I'm confused by it too. I even heard some rumblings a number of years ago that the MOTI was maybe even going to transfer down Highway 10 through Surrey and Langley and in addition, perhaps were looking at taking over 16 Avenue from Highway 99 east to Abbotsford.

Both of those items make more sense to me than uploading this bit of Fraser Highway, especially the part primarily in Surrey.