Salt Lake MSA Development Thread

[SLCMoosy]

I tried searching but didn't come up with anything... does anyone know what's being developed off 106th South on the east side of the Jordan River?

[Stenar]

I was at Tony Caputo's yesterday and they had a sign there that said they were opening a Tony Caputo's Market and Deli in Holladay Village.

[jedikermit]

I was delivering things to schools in WVC today, and stopped by Fairbourne Station for a few minutes; the south-most part of that project has the exteriors completed; not sure what's happening on the inside.

They've also extended demolition west along 3500 South to about 3000 West; looks like they took out "The Mower Specialist" and an auto shop of some kind. They may have taken it even further west than that, but that's where I noticed it. The signage there just said something like "even more Fairbourne Station coming soon!"


Fairbourne Station by JediKermit, on Flickr

Fairbourne Station by JediKermit, on Flickr

Also took a pic of the park between Fairbourne Station and the WVC Library; it connects the TRAX Station, the condos and the library. I'd still like to see a new city hall, library, other civic junk developed there. I saw some signs about an upcoming festival or carnival or something, but it wasn't clear if it was going to be at this park or elsewhere.

Fairbourne Station by JediKermit, on Flickr

[Orlando]

This looks to be a step in the right direction. looking nice!

[Future Mayor]

Someone needs to tell Farmington Station and Farmington City that this is how a Transit Oriented Development is supposed to interact with transit.

I love how Fairbourne Station is coming along. It's been a long time since I've been out, I guess it's time to make a trip.

[SLC Projects]

Originally Posted by Future Mayor

Someone needs to tell Farmington Station and Farmington City that this is how a Transit Oriented Development is supposed to interact with transit.

And Vista Station AND Draper City AND Sandy City AND West Jordan.

Seems like Daybreak and Murray ( and West Valley ) are the only ones who gets it.

[ajiuO]

I noticed last week that a bunch of new framing have been put up in front of the old fun dome building... But now I has all been taken down... I noticed when it was up that the Angles did not match the existing roof line... I bet somebody screwed up.. Big time.

[AllOutOfBubbleGum]

Originally Posted by ajiuO

I noticed last week that a bunch of new framing have been put up in front of the old fun dome building... But now I has all been taken down... I noticed when it was up that the Angles did not match the existing roof line... I bet somebody screwed up.. Big time.

These kinds of hick-ups happen all the time. You just hope its not a big one. What you just described sounds like a big one.

Every project I have worked on when I did construction had hick-ups. But most were fixable or not that big of a deal. But, I saw projects that had big big mess ups and you were glad you weren't part of that cluster.

One project I was only on for a few days was way behind on its schedule. Turned out that someone miss read the elevation of the building and constructed the building 3 feet too high. No one noticed till the next batch of material came in and was not fitting the building properly. They had to tear down the extra 3 feet and it put them behind on a project they were already behind on. No one was happy on that job site, or at least the people I worked with were not happy.

[delts145]

Two Of The Nations Five Fastest Growing Cities Are Along The Wasatch Front.

"Utah had two of the top five: South Jordan, at No. 3, and Lehi, at No. 5."

Metro Salt Lake City's unparalleled suburban views. Below, typical view from West and South Jordan


By Jesse J. Holland - Associated Press

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...ties.html?pg=1

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[delts145]

This article is from the end of February, but I don't remember us ever posting it. Draper's thinking big, but who can blame them with everthing that's been happening in that area.

Okay, so I see where it was posted back at the end of February. Given that it's the type of discussion that's always hot ,I'll leave the article. That, and I love that huge pic. Anyway, I say there's a better than good chance that the point of the mountain will become an alternate urban core/CBD.

'Silicon Slopes': Draper shows off prison site development renderings

Okay, so this is what Draper wants to do with the confluence of one of the 3 to five fastest growing suburbs in the nation. Hey pretty ambitious, but this area keeps busting even the most positive prognostications.

Potential prison site redevelopment. Land-use diagram. Courtesy of Draper City.

Lisa Riley Roche

Read more at http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=2880...sWD5bWMMGMc.99

SALT LAKE CITY — Supporters of moving the Utah State Prison from Draper to free nearly 700 acres of prime real estate for development are counting on a picture being worth a thousand words.

Lobbyists for the city of Draper at the Capitol are sharing architectural renderings of what the site could look like should lawmakers agree that the aging prison should be relocated.

The renderings, which cost the city about $4,000, are intended to show Draper is thinking big when it comes to using the land at the south end of Salt Lake County, Draper City Councilman Jeff Stenquist said.

"The scale is huge. We're not looking at tract houses or strip malls," Stenquist said.

Instead, the city hopes to attract technology companies as well as high-rise residential housing and some retail outlets.

Read more at http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=2880...sWD5bWMMGMc.99


Potential prison site redevelopment. Land-use diagram. Courtesy of Draper City.

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[jedikermit]

^^^^^

That may be good economically...maybe...but aside from a few pockets like Daybreak, I don't see the majority of growth in northern Utah County and the southern part of Salt Lake County as being anything more than sprawl. Maybe classier sprawl than the 1970s, but otherwise not much different.

(this comment was referencing the first article Delts linked to, about SoJo and Lehi...not about "Silicon Slopes" on the prison site)

[StevenF]

Unless Utah goes through a growth boom much more than it has been with a lot with a lot more outside the state move ins I don't see the demand for this in draper. Unless Draper is willing to take this extremely slow and allow it to build 1 building at a time it will not even become 1/5 of this plan. Most cities like Draper are impatient and want things like this built as quick as possible. What you get fast isn't quality or a grand scale.

[delts145]

Jedi, I see where that prison site article actually was posted back at the end of February. I'm such a sucker for big pics. Oh well, it's interesting with all of the attention that the hyper growth in that area is getting again. Seems like we're in for another boom go around.

Originally Posted by StevenF

Unless Utah goes through a growth boom much more than it has been with a lot with a lot more outside the state move ins I don't see the demand for this in draper. Unless Draper is willing to take this extremely slow and allow it to build 1 building at a time it will not even become 1/5 of this plan. Most cities like Draper are impatient and want things like this built as quick as possible. What you get fast isn't quality or a grand scale.

Thing is, all those babies are coming from who? They're coming from young professional couples who are being given the opportunity to stay in Utah instead of having to move elsewhere. Taking that into account, a boom is a boom. I mean at what point can we all agree that the Wasatch Front is a legit boomtown? Some might say when we reach 3 million, maybe 4, or maybe 5 million. IMO, 5 million is not that far off in the future

The Wasatch Front is generating a significant native 30's professional still single, and also a large native senior population, who are demanding urban style choices like this. Look at the huge array of new options coming on line in Sugar House, Downtown, Murray, West Valley, Provo's recent flurry of activity or even Orem's huge Univ. Mall makeover. Developers wouldn't be putting these projects up if they weren't in demand. Interestingly, I also noticed where a lot of 3 bedroom/two bath units were going in at the new complexes around the No. Utah/So. Salt Lake Valley metro.

Sure, there will always be a healthy chunk of the population that is looking for the white picket fence. However, the altering mindset and enthusiasm of the urbanistas along the Wasatch Front is growing so quickly, we sometimes forget how dramatically we have changed our attitudes. What we only flirted with ten years ago as far as lifestyle habitat, has now become de rigeur.

[delts145]

Originally Posted by jedikermit

^^^^^

That may be good economically...maybe...but aside from a few pockets like Daybreak, I don't see the majority of growth in northern Utah County and the southern part of Salt Lake County as being anything more than sprawl. Maybe classier sprawl than the 1970s, but otherwise not much different.

(this comment was referencing the first article Delts linked to, about SoJo and Lehi...not about "Silicon Slopes" on the prison site)

I was wondering about this Jedi the other day. I agree that a lot of the activity in and around places like Lehi and Draper will continue to be classy housing sprawl. However, something I noticed and it also kind of frustrated me was that there are so many apartment complexes going up in that area that nobody seems to even take much notice. I mean it's rare to find a developer anymore, who even thinks it's necessary to push that many renderings. Seems like there are hundred's if not thousands of new apartment unit's going in with scarcely any hype what so ever. This seemed especially true around places like Thanksgiving Point.

[jedikermit]

^^^^

There are some, it's true. But the vast majority of them still aren't what I'd call "smart planning." There are clusters of them north of Thanksgiving Point, but not connected to transit, to grocery stores, to services...they're people piled on top of each other, but it's still just sprawl, with more cars, more people demanding services in places that don't have the infrastructure to provide them. And probably weren't ever intended to. And if you've ever been into those subdivisions/apartment complexes/condos, they're really quite miserable. In large part because they were poorly planned.

[AllOutOfBubbleGum]

I love historical things like this. Would be a fascinating exhibit to go to.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...-the-city.html

Frank Lloyd Wright Tried to Solve the City
Posted by Morgan Meis

Frank Lloyd Wright hated cities. He thought that they were cramped and crowded, stupidly designed, or, more often, built without any sense of design at all. He once wrote, “To look at the plan of a great City is to look at something like the cross-section of a fibrous tumor.” Wright was always looking for a way to cure the cancer of the city. For him, the central problem was that cities lacked essential elements like space, air, light, and silence. Looking at the congestion and overcrowding of New York City, he lamented, “The whole city is in agony.”

[Old&New]

Then Frank Lloyd Wright said: "Hey! I have an Idea! Let's suffocate the city even more by building suburbs for miles and miles around! If people want air, light, and silence, they'll have to plan a whole weekend getaway, rather than just a day-trip to the end of the trolley line."

[CofIKid]

Ground broken for large industrial park in WVC

Development » With tax incentives, the big industrial park, where ground was broken Thursday, could become home to 3,000 jobs.
By Mike Gorrell | The Salt Lake Tribune
First Published 4 hours ago • Updated 2 hours ago

West Valley City • This suburban city’s lightly developed northwest corner is about to be transformed, with ground broken Thursday for a 2.3 million-square-foot industrial park projected to create 3,000 jobs.

Freeport West, one of Utah’s largest owners of commercial real estate, plans to build large warehouses and distribution centers in a 130-acre project at 6755 W. 2100 South, directly west of Rocky Mountain Raceway.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/money/5...trial.html.csp

[jubguy3]

Originally Posted by CofIKid

Ground broken for large industrial park in WVC

Development » With tax incentives, the big industrial park, where ground was broken Thursday, could become home to 3,000 jobs.
By Mike Gorrell | The Salt Lake Tribune
First Published 4 hours ago • Updated 2 hours ago

West Valley City • This suburban city’s lightly developed northwest corner is about to be transformed, with ground broken Thursday for a 2.3 million-square-foot industrial park projected to create 3,000 jobs.

Freeport West, one of Utah’s largest owners of commercial real estate, plans to build large warehouses and distribution centers in a 130-acre project at 6755 W. 2100 South, directly west of Rocky Mountain Raceway.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/money/5...trial.html.csp

Every time I see this, I get kinda sad in that I don't want to stop TOD but I would like it within city limits to stimulate the city, not the suburbs. Why not spur downtown (sorry it soesnt have to do with the MSA)

On a similar idea, I really think slc needs to incorporate:

• West valley
• Westpointe (probably not)
• North salt lake
• South salt lake
• Murray (maybe), only to 59th?
• Holladay (maybe)
• Millcreek

And unincorporated grand view peak and anything current past bangerter. I still support keeping the characteristics of the suburbs that are positive, but why can't they benefit from being annexed in to SLC and enjoy capital city benefits?

[ryerop]

Originally Posted by CofIKid

Ground broken for large industrial park in WVC

Development » With tax incentives, the big industrial park, where ground was broken Thursday, could become home to 3,000 jobs.
By Mike Gorrell | The Salt Lake Tribune
First Published 4 hours ago • Updated 2 hours ago

West Valley City • This suburban city’s lightly developed northwest corner is about to be transformed, with ground broken Thursday for a 2.3 million-square-foot industrial park projected to create 3,000 jobs.

Freeport West, one of Utah’s largest owners of commercial real estate, plans to build large warehouses and distribution centers in a 130-acre project at 6755 W. 2100 South, directly west of Rocky Mountain Raceway.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/money/5...trial.html.csp

I saw this article and was going to post it, but you had beat me to it by a long shot. I think for what it is going to be it sounds like it could definitely help the area around West Valley to get something to hopefully help raise the whole area at least a little bit. I think out that way is good for storage and some of the other things mentioned in the article that they are hoping to attract to the new buildings. I'm glad at least according to the article they are planning on making these some nice buildings to help the area