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You don't know that it's for this site in particular. There are options that would make the affordable housing more practical.
Sounds good. I hope that the proposed tower gets built as is.
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From the base to the trunk to the tree’s canopy, the structure’s design creates opportunity out of the constraints posed by the MTA Ventilation Shaft Building.

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Don Peebles calls affordable housing “absurd” for 11th Avenue site
State rescinded request for proposals, pulling rug out from under developer
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"...The state has not specified how it will change the RFP, but community members have called for more affordable housing and Hochul recently added more residential space to a state plan for 10 towers around Penn Station. With so few state-owned development sites available in Manhattan, the governor, who is up for election this year, is facing pressure to include affordable housing at 418 11th Avenue."

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To developer Don Peebles, the state’s decision to halt plans for a West Side development felt like canceling the Super Bowl with his team leading at halftime.

The state has not specified how it will change the RFP, but community members have called for more affordable housing and Hochul recently added more residential space to a state plan for 10 towers around Penn Station. With so few state-owned development sites available in Manhattan, the governor, who is up for election this year, is facing pressure to include affordable housing at 418 11th Avenue.
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The RFP issued by the Cuomo administration allowed for commercial or mixed-use development. Proposals with apartments would need to make 30 percent of them affordable for individuals making an average of 80 percent of the area median income. But that was not the only factor deterring developers from including residential space.

Another was that property tax break 421a expires in June and political consensus on a replacement could be elusive. The last time it lapsed, developers largely stopped proposing new apartment buildings.

Moreover, a commercial building could be larger. A residential project would be limited to a floor area ratio of 12, although the site permits an overall FAR of 24. Hochul has proposed lifting the residential cap in the city, but previous attempts to do so have failed.
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The canceled RFP encouraged “hotel uses that are complementary” to the nearby Javits Convention Center, a sentiment that Peebles supports.

“Affordable housing is not the best use for that site — across the street from the Javits Center is absurd,” he said. “It would be squandering an opportunity to help Javits become more competitive.”
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Community Board 4, an advisory body of local volunteers, has made clear that it prefers residential construction on the site, which is between West 35th and West 36th streets.

“We were very pleased that this RFP was pulled back for reconsideration,” said its chairman, Jeffrey LeFrancois. “This site could be a huge boon for housing development that includes a wide band of income spectrum.”
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Brookfield, Related Companies, Rockrose Development Corp. and Tishman Speyer also reportedly toured the site, though it is not clear if they planned to submit proposals to the original RFP.


Everything I’ve been saying. What the author doesn’t realize though is that you can still build a tower of the same size with residential space, it would have to be mixed-use with no more than half residential, and 30% of the residential as affordable housing. Also, Hochul doesn’t have to try to shoehorn it onto this site when there is a much larger, less complicated site nearby, where she could probably get in at least one fully “affordable” tower.

The governor canceled the RFP because there was no affordable housing. It’s not likely she will issue a new one that doesn’t require it.
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So if she reissues a new RFP that requires affordable housing, we're basically guaranteed a lame building because it seems that it will be difficult to build on this site.
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So if she reissues a new RFP that requires affordable housing, we're basically guaranteed a lame building because it seems that it will be difficult to build on this site.
Who says the new RFP will only be for this site, or for this site at all? She could just as easily issue the RFP for the larger site alone, getting housing guaranteed, and putting this one up later. Or the RFP can cover both sites.
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Who says the new RFP will only be for this site, or for this site at all? She could just as easily issue the RFP for the larger site alone, getting housing guaranteed, and putting this one up later. Or the RFP can cover both sites.
OK. I thought that she was going to issue a new RFP for each individual site. We'll see. She'll probably sit on it until after the election.
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I wonder if the new RFP will be issued after the gubernatorial election. I hope that this gets built.

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Affirmation Tower hits roadblock

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February 24, 2022


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….. The team made its presentation to the Empire State Development Corporation last October in response to a request for proposals (RFP) with a commitment of 35% in contracts to people of color totaling more than a billion dollars. However, Craig Livingston, managing partner for Exact Capital Group, told the AmNews that the RFP was canceled.

“We heard that the RFP was pulled so that the governor could re-evaluate it in line with her priorities,” Livingston said. “And today we are still waiting for that to be clarified and articulated and for the RFP to be re-issued.”

Craig explains that when government agencies have a contract that they want to award, an RFP will be issued. Interested parties will respond to the RFP with their proposal and those proposals are evaluated by staff or members of the issuing agency. After that, there’s usually an interview of various teams and follow up questions. The project is then awarded to the group that was presenting a proposal that created the most public benefit for the citizens of the city or state.
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There are conversations about whether or not Affirmation Tower will build affordable housing in the Hudson Yards area, which the initial plans do not contain. Livingston feels it’s not appropriate for the site because it’s across the street from the Jacob Javits Center, which is one of the largest convention centers in the nation.

The team is not ruling out the possibility of adding a plan to build affordable housing for the project, however, Livingston believes that the characteristics of the Hudson Yards area makes it hard to envision.

“I think there’s some demand for affordable housing in every community in New York City across and the country, but we have to do it smartly in a way in which we can incorporate residential use appropriately,” he said.

What are the next steps? Livingston says the plan to build Affirmation Towers is far from over.
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Does that mean it will be cancelled???
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I like Livingston’s determination. I also like his fixation on the word “paradigm.”

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There is a sizable affordable component to the two towers going right next to Hudson Yards, one 695 ft, one 545 ft. This is a weak answer.
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There is a sizable affordable component to the two towers going right next to Hudson Yards, one 695 ft, one 545 ft. This is a weak answer.
What does that mean?
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Peebles seems really committed to this, so I’m not losing hope. It’s entirely possible that after the election, virtually the sane RFP will be issued.
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You just said “Peebles seems really committed to this..” twice.
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Peebles seems really committed to this, so I’m not losing hope. It’s entirely possible that after the election, virtually the sane RFP will be issued.
I think it will be re-issued and possibly resolved before the election. If Hochul is gonna get some affordable housing out of it, she’ll want the credit as well.
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I think it will be re-issued and possibly resolved before the election. If Hochul is gonna get some affordable housing out of it, she’ll want the credit as well.
Let’s hope. Maybe she’ll make a token AH component such that it doesn’t become an obstacle to building this site.
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