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[Crisis]

The H&M Clothing debate currently ongoing in the Saskatoon Construction thread is another item that belongs here not there. I refrained from adding comments about H&M photoshopping real heads on to digitally created bodies because I didn't want to take things further of the rails in a freakin' construction discussion.

[Jimmy James]

Originally Posted by kgc087

It certainly does no such thing. It is globally recognized as one of the main fashion houses which sets trends, along with D & G, Versace and all of them. And it is DIRT CHEAP considering you are getting something that actually makes you look good rather than a 10 pack of oddly multicoloured sheets sewn into a teeshirt. I don't think it's about money b/c people in stoon waste money on clothes b/c all we have are boutiques, it's just about access and exposure to media and what's really out there.

Actually, it's Loblaw's Joe Fresh line that steals from H&M.

H&M would be great to have in Saskatoon, but I don't think Midtown could accommodate it without an expansion or major retrofit. As mentioned earlier, H&M usually operates multi-level stores (I was recently in the Eaton Centre store in Toronto, which is three levels) and take up 10,000 to 20,000 square feet. It would actually be better suited to a space outside the mall, such as the one American Apparel currently occupies on 21st street.

I think the appetite for better options when it comes to fashion is stronger in Saskatoon than many give the city credit for. Stores like Mexx and Guess wouldn't open up here if there weren't customers for their products. I agree with kgc087 - it's about access and exposure.

That said, access appears to be improving. Foot Locker and Carlton Cards opposite Sephora in Midtown will be closing down, making way for Melanie Lynn (obviously, a women's only store) and Town Shoes, while Spare Parts is opening in the former La Senza Girl store in between that has been empty for years (confirmed here: http://www.primarisreit.com/uploads/malls/38.pdf). Fairweather, Northern Reflections, Urban Behavior and the space where the Calendar Club is will all be open in the new year, and rumors are that two or three other stores will also be gone.

The rumors are that Aeropostale (which has been confirmed for Cornwall Centre in Regina), RW & Co., BCBG Max Azria, Forever 21 and Hollister will be coming to the mall. Those are completely unsubstantiated, but I've heard it now from a few different people who work in the mall or in real estate. Clearly, Midtown has indicated that they will be making major changes and are looking to bring in retailers such as these, so I have hope that we will see some cool retailers join Guess, Mexx and Sephora in the near future.

[Echoes]

Originally Posted by Jimmy James

That said, access appears to be improving. Foot Locker and Carlton Cards opposite Sephora in Midtown will be closing down, making way for Melanie Lynn (obviously, a women's only store) and Town Shoes, while Spare Parts is opening in the former La Senza Girl store in between that has been empty for years (confirmed here: http://www.primarisreit.com/uploads/malls/38.pdf). Fairweather, Northern Reflections, Urban Behavior and the space where the Calendar Club is will all be open in the new year, and rumors are that two or three other stores will also be gone.

Just to clarify, but you mean that they'll all be closing in the new year, right?

Thanks for the informative post, Jimmy James. Very exciting.

[khabibulin]

Bravo rrskylar, Riverman and Crisis for your brave comments. We live in such a politically correct world that any questionning of left wing thinking often gets one branded as a knuckle dragger. I think that there should be room for respectful, open debate on all topics.

People need to respect the opinion of others. You can disagree with opinions of others, but you must respect their right to express it (as long as it is not promoting hate or intolerance).

[BrannyMuffin]

Originally Posted by Echoes

Just to clarify, but you mean that they'll all be closing in the new year, right?

Thanks for the informative post, Jimmy James. Very exciting.

I think he meant the spaces will be open in the new year.

As for the comment that people in Saskatoon and Regina don't spend money on clothes...well, the argument doesn't even really make sense when you are comparing Zara and Carhartt. Aside from the fact that they serve two completely different purposes, the prices are actually pretty similar. Who says that a person can't work in an environment that requires clothing like Carhartt (and you're probably making pretty decent money if you do) and still dress nicely the rest of the time? People will spend money on clothes, they will not spend money on junk. I don't know about Saskatoon but The Bay in Regina just got a major overhaul with regard to their brands and I think you'd have a hard time finding "cheap brands". Of course you're not going to have the same selection as a larger store in a much larger city but that has nothing to do with the fact that people "don't like to spend money on clothes". Thinking about downtown Regina, outside of the Cornwall Centre you've got Havik, Zoes, Nico, Aria, Stella & Sway, Norwood, and more all selling clothes that most people certainly wouldn't classify as cheap (especially when you're comparing them to places like Zara) and they all seem to be doing okay.

Aside from that, when you're talking about Forever 21, H&M, Zara, etc., they are hardly "expensive".

[Cicero]

Originally Posted by kgc087

It certainly does no such thing. It is globally recognized as one of the main fashion houses which sets trends, along with D & G, Versace and all of them. And it is DIRT CHEAP considering you are getting something that actually makes you look good rather than a 10 pack of oddly multicoloured sheets sewn into a teeshirt. I don't think it's about money b/c people in stoon waste money on clothes b/c all we have are boutiques, it's just about access and exposure to media and what's really out there.

ew, no. H&M is usually about 4 - 6 months behind the pack, which is good enough for me because I only rarely splurge on Dior.

e: I should also mention that Zara does the same thing, blatantly. If you were being sarcastic, I clearly missed it.

Aside from that, when you're talking about Forever 21, H&M, Zara, etc., they are hardly "expensive".

They're pretty much dirty cheap considering what you're getting (nice cuts of the latest styles).

[vid]

Originally Posted by Riverman

Funny, I consider myself a conservative and I dislike NASCAR (it is an acronym) and I've never been in a Wal-Mart. You too are showing bias based on ignorant statements like that.

Canada's conservatives and liberals don't really have stereotypical interests, Walmart®™ (they no longer use the hyphen in their name) and NASCAR®™ were the only two things I could think of and I know they're more localized to the US. My point is, I've seen forums that focused on NASCAR®™ I'm kind of surprised you've never been in Walmart®™, though. You must be fairly well off to be able to afford to spend more than $34.95 on a GE®™ slow cooker. Congrats!

Originally Posted by Crisis

I would have thought the primary topic is construction. All a matter of perspective, I guess.

Development, not construction. Construction is simply looking at the structure being built. Most people on this forum are interested in the bigger picture, like how the city is being laid out, how various construction projects interact, what possibilities there might be for future construction and how the city can be improved. These are all ideas that tend to be more common among left-wing people than right-wing people, which makes members like Riverman an exception on this forum, so naturally he would be singled out. He's an "other". But he isn't at fault in this discussion. As far as I know, moderation isn't concerned about Riverman's behaviour.

I agree with Riverman that the Human Rights Museum thread should not have been shut down. I've told 1ajs that I disagree with his decision, but since contrary to the views of some here I am not him and I don't pull any of his strings, he has ignored my request. Ideally when a discussion gets heated, it will be locked for a couple days, perhaps the people who instigated the argument will be suspended for the same time period, and then once everyone has cooled down, the thread is re-opened and we get back to the original topic.

Originally Posted by khabibulin

Bravo rrskylar, Riverman and Crisis for your brave comments. We live in such a politically correct world that any questionning of left wing thinking often gets one branded as a knuckle dragger. I think that there should be room for respectful, open debate on all topics.

You've been branded that way because it reflects the way in which you question left wing thinking. You set yourself up to be thought of as stupid by asking silly questions and making stupid points. You're the right wing equivalent of a 15 year old who thinks Communism is a good idea.

Originally Posted by khabibulin

People need to respect the opinion of others. You can disagree with opinions of others, but you must respect their right to express it (as long as it is not promoting hate or intolerance).

Yes, and respecting the opinions of others does not include harassing people via PM to rub in their faces.

But if I recall correctly, you're only 15 or 16 or so? You'll mature eventually. I used to be just like you, but from the other side of the political spectrum.

[khabibulin]

[You've been branded that way because it reflects the way in which you question left wing thinking. You set yourself up to be thought of as stupid by asking silly questions and making stupid points. You're the right wing equivalent of a 15 year old who thinks Communism is a good idea.


Yes, and respecting the opinions of others does not include harassing people via PM to rub in their faces.

But if I recall correctly, you're only 15 or 16 or so? You'll mature eventually. I used to be just like you, but from the other side of the political spectrum.[/QUOTE]


I sent you one PM as part of another issue, reminding you that you once said no way Ford would be elected Mayor of TO. That is harassment?

So far you have said that I am a troll and make stupid points. Who is harassing who? Oh well, sticks and stones buddy

Wishing you well in Tbay. I enjoyed 4 fine years there.

[Riverman]

Originally Posted by vid

I'm kind of surprised you've never been in Walmart®™, though. You must be fairly well off to be able to afford to spend more than $34.95 on a GE®™ slow cooker. Congrats!

Why are you surprised? The "white whine" socialists complain of corporate greed all the time yet still go to Walmart. I find their business practices disgusting and therefore I don't patronize their stores. I walk the walk, unlike you I guess.

And yes, I am fairly well off. I got that way by working hard and saving my money.

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child - miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

[armorand93]

Hey guys,

I just got myself access to an Canon Rebel camera for the weekend! As such, would any forumers need photos from around Winnipeg? Later tonight, gonna go take some pics of CMHR, the SWRTC and possibly the hotel development at HSC, as those are the only projects I know under construction.

[vid]

Originally Posted by khabibulin

I sent you one PM as part of another issue, reminding you that you once said no way Ford would be elected Mayor of TO. That is harassment?

So far you have said that I am a troll and make stupid points. Who is harassing who? Oh well, sticks and stones buddy

I've lost friends because I have a habit of doing what I am about to do. But you're not my friend.

Originally Posted by vid

The common man took back the position of mayor. Toronto City Council will keep him in check. It will be about as effective as Harper has been for the past 4 years.

That is to say, not very effective.

Did you know that Rob Ford is a millionaire? How common of him!

Originally Posted by khabibulin

Nice to see that you are willing to discuss this like a man (not). Your comment was derogative and aimed to harm my reputation. I do not understand why. If you have an issue with me, why not send me a pm, rather than in a public posting....

(The above was then forwarded to moderation.)

Originally Posted by Riverman

Why are you surprised? The "white whine" socialists complain of corporate greed all the time yet still go to Walmart. I find their business practices disgusting and therefore I don't patronize their stores. I walk the walk, unlike you I guess.

And yes, I am fairly well off. I got that way by working hard and saving my money.

You don't earn minimum wage, though, do you? Even though Ontario has higher minimum wage and lower taxes than Manitoba I still don't have very much disposable income left after I pay my bills. And I am not socialist. I don't oppose Walmart because it is a profitable company. I oppose it because it undermines the principles of capitalism with regards to consumer choice. I believe that neither the government nor a massive corporation should be allowed to control the invisible hand. We have allowed both to happen. The difference between us is that you are in a situation where you can actually ignore that force. I can't. I was born into poverty and depression and am just stepping out of it. You've got decades of prosperity behind you. I'm the first person in my family since before I was born to get a full time job.

I disagree with many aspects of socialism and believe communism is impossible. You don't know this about me, so I forgive you if the comment below is indeed about me. I've been called much worse, and more directly than that too.

Originally Posted by Riverman

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child - miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

Is that directed at me? Should I take back what I said about you being a reasonable person?

[Riverman]

Originally Posted by vid

Is that directed at me? Should I take back what I said about you being a reasonable person?

The quote was not directed at you, no. It's just a cool quote.

I have two words for you vid: Confederation College.

[vid]

I have more than two words for you: My dad owes money on a student loan which under Ontario law disqualifies me from that and possibly OSAP as well, and I am one generation too far removed to get Indian Status. I'll have to pay for my education myself and I can barely save up enough money to deal with my nearly monthly emergencies, especially when my bank keeps holding my paycheques and charging me 16 dollars in fees for calling them and visiting their website.

I'll admit that getting the bank account at BMO was my mistake. I'm closing it next week. I just finished a ConCollege administrated employment programme but I'm looking at other courses, just have to figure out what I want. I'm interested in too many things and passionate about too few.

Originally Posted by Riverman

The quote was not directed at you, no. It's just a cool quote.

But it's not a cool quote. He just lists a bunch of insults towards a group of people that he thinks he disagrees with when he probably agrees with many of the same things the people he is calling liberal believe.

[Riverman]

Originally Posted by vid

But it's not a cool quote.

People have different opinions on things. Don't get too wound up about it.

[1ajs]

that flows both ways though and we all need to remember that

[vid]

Originally Posted by Riverman

People have different opinions on things. Don't get too wound up about it.

True. Some people enjoy eating feces during sex. As for me, I'm not German.

I'll let this be my offensive and disgusting statement of the day, a tradition usually held in the Midwest Coffee Talk thread. Good night!

[Riverman]

You really do have a problem, don't you?

I have another good quote: "If your life sucks, it's because you suck."

Why are you whining about paying for your own education? I paid for mine by taking lawn mowers, tillers and snow blowers out of the trash, fixing and selling them.

Nobody can help you but you.

[1ajs]

vids a live in care giver for his mother basicaly kinda hard to do much... she gets disability the system bascily traped him... hes tired of it. hes making change don't be hard on him just help push him in the right direction

[vid]

Originally Posted by Riverman

Nobody can help you but you.

I'll be sure to let all the people who have helped me in the past year know that.

[armorand93]

Originally Posted by vid

True. Some people enjoy eating feces during sex. As for me, I'm not German.

I'll let this be my offensive and disgusting statement of the day, a tradition usually held in the Midwest Coffee Talk thread. Good night!

If this is referring to Church of Fudge, you might have just made my day. LMAO