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Old Posted Jun 6, 2024, 10:12 PM
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Congestion pricing: $15 BILLION in transit improvements in jeopardy after Hochul halts Manhattan toll plan

By Ben Brachfeld
Posted on June 6, 2024


Gov. Kathy Hochul’s eleventh-hour decision to halt New York’s congestion pricing program put a big question mark on $15 billion in mass transit capital improvements the MTA planned to undertake over the next few years, many of which the agency says are urgently needed.


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Old Posted Jun 6, 2024, 11:25 PM
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Well the governor's tax plan collapsed already. Now the idea is to take a billion dollars from the general fund and figure out how to replace congestion pricing next year. I'm not sure this is gonna fly for a lot of reasons.

Non-zero chance she capitulates and just lets it go ahead this month.
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Old Posted Jun 6, 2024, 11:26 PM
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Congestion pricing: $15 BILLION in transit improvements in jeopardy after Hochul halts Manhattan toll plan

By Ben Brachfeld
Posted on June 6, 2024


Gov. Kathy Hochul’s eleventh-hour decision to halt New York’s congestion pricing program put a big question mark on $15 billion in mass transit capital improvements the MTA planned to undertake over the next few years, many of which the agency says are urgently needed.


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https://www.amny.com/transit/congest...s-in-jeopardy/
More given the process and $500M contract the MTA is going to have to pay out for the actual system itself that now will never be used.
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Christopher Street subway station to be renamed in honor of Stonewall

The Christopher Street-Sheridan Square subway station in Greenwich Village will be renamed in honor of the Stonewall National Monument. A bill sponsored by Sen. Brad Hoylman-Sigal and Assembly Member Deborah Glick passed the New York State Senate on Wednesday, directing the MTA to rename the station to “Christopher Street-Stonewall National Monument Station” to memorialize the site’s crucial role in launching the modern LGBTQIA+ rights movement.



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Old Posted Jun 8, 2024, 10:31 PM
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No doubt Europeans on a hit list tour. For the most part native NY graffiti writers have sensibly lost their nerve to relive the old days hitting subway steel. Probably cause they know the consequences of getting caught will be severe while foreign writers will just be put on a plane and banned from re-entry for 5 years or some other non-prosecution.
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^ definitely. that train even looks like non-local foreign style work.
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Old Posted Jun 9, 2024, 7:58 AM
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Congestion pricing: MTA left in the lurch after Hochul scraps toll plan, Albany fails on funding bill

By Robert Pozarycki
Posted on June 8, 2024

https://www.amny.com/news/congestion...ochul-funding/
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Old Posted Jun 10, 2024, 12:37 AM
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Congestion pricing: MTA left in the lurch after Hochul scraps toll plan, Albany fails on funding bill

By Robert Pozarycki
Posted on June 8, 2024

https://www.amny.com/news/congestion...ochul-funding/
Impossible to overstate how badly Hochul F'd this up.
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Hochul basically delivered the nightmare scenario I most feared under another you-know-who administration. I thought he would try and kill NYC by strangling CP. Instead it was Hochul. Unbelievable.

I don't think anyone knows how this will end. Legislature will not approve additional taxes. Hochul likely won't backtrack. I can't imagine the MTA will just shut down and be sold for scrap. So will the MTA board just move forward, ignoring Congestion Kathy? CP is enshrined in law.
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from what i saw at the gym that was the discussion on the ny1 news this morning. there are those saying it can be halted and those saying it cant. basically there are four levels of government that have to sign off and she is halting the dot from doing that supposedly.

so we wait to see what happens. of course if it doesn’t go into effect expect lawsuits.
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from what i saw at the gym that was the discussion on the ny1 news this morning. there are those saying it can be halted and those saying it cant. basically there are four levels of government that have to sign off and she is halting the dot from doing that supposedly.

so we wait to see what happens. of course if it doesn’t go into effect expect lawsuits.
The MTA board, while a creature created by the governor and beholden to that office, still has a legal fiduciary responsibility to implement the program because they can't just decide not to take revenue accounted for in its budget. NYDOT, likely illegally at her order, withholding its sign off is almost certain to end up in court.

She says she's not "canceling" the program just delaying it. Mostly because saying to are canceling something that the law says you shall implement isn't a thing you can do. Explaining the difference between a cancelation and an indefinite delay to a judge when the system is ready to go might be a bit uncomfortable.
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Hochul basically delivered the nightmare scenario I most feared under another you-know-who administration. I thought he would try and kill NYC by strangling CP. Instead it was Hochul. Unbelievable.

I don't think anyone knows how this will end. Legislature will not approve additional taxes. Hochul likely won't backtrack. I can't imagine the MTA will just shut down and be sold for scrap. So will the MTA board just move forward, ignoring Congestion Kathy? CP is enshrined in law.
There will be plenty of lawsuits if this doesn't go live on June 30. Many are questioning whether she even has the authority to unilaterally shut it down.
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Jesus, this idiot Gov. claimed she shut down CP based on complaints in a Midtown diner. A place where the eggs cost more than the CP fee.

Is there one person on earth who drives their car to a diner next to Grand Central? Who does that? Who are these people?

Maybe the politicians have such a warped sense of reality given they're driven everywhere? But how could someone be so stupid to think people are driving their personal cars to Midtown diners? The Grand Central parking alone costs like $60. Lincoln Tunnel is $14. Crosstown congestion is horrible. Who is doing this for eggs?
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Depends on how good those eggs are. It's amazing how hard it is to get fantastic eggs.
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What an idiot.
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Old Posted Jun 10, 2024, 6:56 PM
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Just dropping in as a non-New Yorker to say keep up the good fight pushing back on Hochul! It looks like you've got a good shot at making her back down. We're routing for you over in LA! New York can show other big cities the way of the future if this moves forward.
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Jesus, this idiot Gov. claimed she shut down CP based on complaints in a Midtown diner. A place where the eggs cost more than the CP fee.

Is there one person on earth who drives their car to a diner next to Grand Central? Who does that? Who are these people?
Has she ever actually lived in NYC? I know she supposedly has an apartment in Manhattan, but did she do that before or after becoming governor?




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Maybe the politicians have such a warped sense of reality given they're driven everywhere? But how could someone be so stupid to think people are driving their personal cars to Midtown diners? The Grand Central parking alone costs like $60. Lincoln Tunnel is $14. Crosstown congestion is horrible. Who is doing this for eggs?
It's also like 4 crosstown blocks from Times Square, one of the most congested intersections in the world.
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Another Staten Island ferry is up for auction! Pete Davidson had buyer's remorse with his ferry but this would be an interesting project.

https://www.silive.com/news/2024/05/...k-at-155k.html
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Old Posted Jun 11, 2024, 1:44 AM
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Another Staten Island ferry is up for auction! Pete Davidson had buyer's remorse with his ferry but this would be an interesting project.

https://www.silive.com/news/2024/05/...k-at-155k.html
yeah the latest is nobody bid on that one, so they’ll probably have to scrap it. pete’s ferry is sitting in a dock, but they say its still in the works to turn it into a comedy club and move it to miami in the winters (ps pete likes his weed, so, yeah).
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