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Old Posted May 8, 2009, 11:54 PM
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Nice to see a crane uptown. Been a while. When's that last time there were two cranes at the same time in SJ?
Just last year, when Canaport LNG tank construction was in full swing.

If we're lucky Rocca will start the Harbourfront Residences within the next 6 weeks (which is when the Market Square one will disappear), so that we can get a photo of 3 cranes Uptown at the same time.
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Just last year, when Canaport LNG tank construction was in full swing.

If we're lucky Rocca will start the Harbourfront Residences within the next 6 weeks (which is when the Market Square one will disappear), so that we can get a photo of 3 cranes Uptown at the same time.
Maybe...just maybe the courthouse crane will be up soon.
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Old Posted May 11, 2009, 9:08 PM
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Fortuitously, I find out that Fortis Properties created a website for the Brunswick Square Shopping Center.

You guys are lucky to have a successful shopping center right in the core. Each time I have been there the place was decently crowded with a relatively low-vacancy rate compared to Highfield Square.
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Old Posted May 11, 2009, 9:33 PM
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Fortuitously, I find out that Fortis Properties created a website for the Brunswick Square Shopping Center.

You guys are lucky to have a successful shopping center right in the core. Each time I have been there the place was decently crowded with a relatively low-vacancy rate compared to Highfield Square.
I agree that Brunswick Square is quite healthy compared to Highfield Square. The problem with Highfield I think is that Crombie Properties is undecided re: what the future of that property will be. Tenants are only being offered short term (month by month) leases. Reputable chains therefore are fleeing and/or avoiding the place in droves. Highfield will remain on deathwatch until at least after it is decided where the new downtown arena will go.

Sorry to highjack the Saint John thread.
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Old Posted May 11, 2009, 11:26 PM
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Highfield Square is a deadmall. The real thing that retail nightmares are made of. They are dragging the Bay with them too, it could be quite healthy at Champlain though.
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Highfield Square is a deadmall. The real thing that retail nightmares are made of. They are dragging the Bay with them too, it could be quite healthy at Champlain though.
I like Champlain Place and stuff it has to offer but I also like downtown shopping experience, this is something Moncton clearly lags behind. I am not implying SJ is perfect in that regard but definitely better than Moncton.
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I like Champlain Place and stuff it has to offer but I also like downtown shopping experience, this is something Moncton clearly lags behind. I am not implying SJ is perfect in that regard but definitely better than Moncton.
You are correct, we don't have the urban & shopping feel in downtown Moncton. SJ have unique stores, art galleries, shops, etc... nothing can be said about that in downtown Moncton.

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Old Posted May 12, 2009, 2:49 AM
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The few times I have been to brunswick square, I have always felt it had a really cool feel. Especially the part with the 3 story open court.
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Old Posted May 12, 2009, 2:55 AM
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You are correct, we don't have the urban & shopping feel in downtown Moncton. SJ have unique stores, art galleries, shops, etc... in SJ, nothing can be said about that in downtown Moncton.
You are also right. In fact, I love both cities for completely opposite reasons.

That's partly the reason why I'm still interested to see what's happen in Saint John, Moncton cannot totally fulfill my urban addiction.
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You are also right. In fact, I love both cities for completely opposite reasons.

That's partly the reason why I'm still interested to see what's happen in Saint John, Moncton cannot totally fulfill my urban addiction.
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Have you noticed that the last nine posts in this thread are by Monctonians?

See Saint John, we appreciate you for what you are. I think New Brunswickers as a whole should embrace all three of our cities. We each have our own strengths. Metro Moncton may be (slightly) larger, but Saint John still has more of an urban feel.
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Have you noticed that the last nine posts in this thread are by Monctonians?

See Saint John, we appreciate you for what you are. I think New Brunswickers as a whole should embrace all three of our cities. We each have our own strengths. Metro Moncton may be (slightly) larger, but Saint John still has more of an urban feel.
I think everyone appreciates each other fundamentally, we just have a competitive streak whereby we want to see our own city prosper - and for some reason many people see it has a win-lose proposition where one city can only prosper at the expense of the other, instead of seeing mutual benefits for provincial growth and development.

In the mean time, I'm sure those of us in Saint John will be happy to continue to work at improving and growing the urban core which makes us so unique in New Brunswick. Feel free to visit Uptown any time, it's a great place to walk around and enjoy art galleries, boutique shops, treed boulevards and parks, historic architecture, fine food and a fresh pint on a patio.
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Peel Plaza gets support
Development Backing for motion doesn't mean council will approve projects in final decision

Published Tuesday May 12th, 2009
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SAINT JOHN - A new police station proposed for the city's centre received some support from common council Monday night.

Council unanimously supported a motion that stated its confidence in city staff's ability to deliver the entire Peel Plaza project, including a new parking garage and police headquarters, in a "timely and prudent" manner.

Although the motion doesn't necessarily mean council will approve the projects in a final decision, several politicians expressed support for the development leading up to the vote.

Councillor Carl Killen, who presented the motion, said he wanted council to move ahead with the project and turn its attention to other matters.

"This is a plaza; this is not simply an isolated development. It is in fact part of a larger design that seeks to transform a particular part of the city," Killen said.

"It seems to me that we are at a stage with this particular project that it's time to move on, get past it and move on to the next item, whatever that might prove to be so that we will have the energy for it."

Deputy Mayor Stephen Chase, who has expressed major concerns with the costs of the police station, supported the motion but he stressed his vote didn't prejudge the fate of the project.

Chase said current designs would make the police station too big and too expensive. He said he has privately told city staff they must urge private companies currently preparing bids for the Peel Plaza project to offer new designs that reduce the station's size.

"I've pressed staff that when we continue on with the process of this request for proposals, that there must be an opportunity for the project respondents to bring back ideas, innovative design ideas, possibilities to bring down the cost of the project and reduce its size," Chase said.

"I have confidence based on discussions that staff will do that, but I don't want to prejudge the final outcome."

Mayor Ivan Court, a staunch supporter of the Peel Plaza development, said city staff has already told council they will make sure project costs are as low as possible. Court said the city will save considerable money by building the police station in the proposed location, because the province is sharing costs for holding cells, parking spaces and green space.

"Everybody around the table wants to make sure we get good bang for our buck and we get a building that meets the needs of our police force and at the same time at the lowest possible cost for our taxpayers," Court said.

"If we don't build the police facility at Peel Plaza, that facility is going to cost us a lot more than it's going to cost right now. We have an opportunity to save money by working with the justice facility and the province of New Brunswick."

The Peel Plaza development is expected to cost $45 million, $28 million for a new police station and $17 million for a parking garage that would be located north of Union Street in the city's centre.

Chase has said he is willing to put the brakes on the police station, should the project prove to be too expensive for taxpayers.

And he is not alone in his position.

Coun. Joe Mott, who was absent from Monday night's vote, and Coun. Bill Farren, who did not speak on the matter, have also said they are willing to put the project on hold.

Council is waiting for a report from finance commissioner Greg Yeomans on the cost of this and other capital projects and the potential impact on the tax rate.

Already, Yeomans has warned city politicians the number of projects on the city's books could push the tax rate higher, something most council members don't want.

Regardless, some council members, including Mayor Court and Coun. Peter McGuire, have said it's too late to have second thoughts when so much money, time and effort have already been spent on the development.

Coun. Chris Titus said Monday night the council water committee, including Court, Chase and Titus, received firm assurances from provincial cabinet ministers during a recent meeting that the new justice building is moving ahead as planned.

Titus was adamant the city should continue with the current process of awaiting bids from private companies to build the new parking garage and police station.

"(The provincial ministers) say unanimously: make no mistake about it, the courthouse is going up on the YMCA-YWCA (site)," Titus. "I repeat, the courthouse is going up on the Y site. Therefore, it precludes us to continue down this (public-private partnership) process in conjunction with the police and the parking garage."
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Princess Street undergoes a major makeover

Published Tuesday May 12th, 2009
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Work on upgrading the water main and sanitary and storm sewers on Princess Street continues. Above, a worker connects a water valve to water pipes in front of O'Leary's. The west end of the street is getting new sidewalks, smoother paving and underground wiring. Princess, between Germain and Prince William, will be closed to through traffic until July 6.
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Old Posted May 12, 2009, 7:17 PM
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Derelict buildings issue raised once again

May 12, 2009 - 3:11 pm
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Saint John, N.B. - Councillor Peter McGuire continues the battle against derelict buildings in Saint John.

Last night McGuire proposed a motion which would allow the city to take possession of properties where derelict buildings stand.

But councillor Chris Titus has his doubts it will work.

"I don't think we can, I'm not saying we couldn't try to do it but I don't think you could do it in this province," Titus says.

The matter has been referred back to city staff for further study.

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Peel Plaza costs already exceed eight million

May 12, 2009 - 5:58 am
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SAINT JOHN - A nail hasn't been driven and the city of Saint John already has nearly eight-million dollars into the Peel Plaza project.

Last night council delivered an update on costs, which include 4.3-million in property acquisition and over two million in design.

The project would include a police station, parking garage and tunnel to the new provincial justice building in uptown Saint John.

Councillor Chris Titus says despite recent rumours, he's been told by members of cabinet that plans have not changed.

"Make no mistake about it, the courthouse is going up on the 'Y' site, therefore it makes sense for us to continue down this 3-P process in conjunction with the police and the parking garage," Titus says.

Some members of council have raised concerns over costs, and have suggested they may not support the final proposal.

But mayor Ivan Court says the time to build is now in conjunction with the province.
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Market Square crane sqwings into action



The crane is actually lifting steel now.
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The crane is actually lifting steel now.
I imagine the Hardman Group is focusing on higher density for the Coast Guard project but like I commented in your blog, this spot would have been ideal for something a bit taller.
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City's workforce jumps by 500 jobs

Saint John saw significant job growth in April, adding 500 jobs compared to the month before. According to Statistics Canada's monthly labour force survey, the city's unemployment rate fell slightly from 6.3 per cent in March to 6.1 per cent in April. Across New Brunswick, the unemployment rate declined from 9.5 per cent to 8.9 per cent during the same period, while the national rate was unchanged at eight per cent last month.
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Old Posted May 13, 2009, 11:29 AM
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I imagine the Hardman Group is focusing on higher density for the Coast Guard project but like I commented in your blog, this spot would have been ideal for something a bit taller.
I agree, there is no reason that something taller could not be in that location, or that it couldn't have had a bit more of an active streetscape than just the single office door that will be there.

Ah well, I still have high hopes for the Coast Guard site, if they just stick to their original vision and don't cut corners, it'll be a fantastic place.
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I noticed yesterday that there is a crane on the Lower West Side. Is that Blue Rock Court?
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can someone post a progress pic of Chateau Saint John? I haven't seen it since March.
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