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[bomberjet]

Remember when there was a football stadium and an arena 1 block over from this proposed hotel. 1000's of cars piling into the neighbourhood. And they're worried about a hotel in an industrial strip. Good times.

[zen-kz]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

Remember when there was a football stadium and an arena 1 block over from this proposed hotel. 1000's of cars piling into the neighbourhood. And they're worried about a hotel in an industrial strip. Good times.

I am wondering if the city should have measures to prevent NIMBYism, like to provide a right for neighbours to buy out the land with a fair market price if they want to keep things as is (and proceed if they are unwilling to do so)

[H2man]

Originally Posted by zen-kz

I am wondering if the city should have measures to prevent NIMBYism, like to provide a right for neighbours to buy out the land with a fair market price if they want to keep things as is (and proceed if they are unwilling to do so)

This would make my life lol.

But...is there such a thing as being a nimby about anti-nimby laws?

[trueviking]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

Nimby's also concerned about a 10 story proposal in Charleswood (4025 Roblin Boulevard) on a vacant lot, apparently those living in Charleswood feel that they should be immune from progress!

This one is a gem....the residents are all waxing poetic about their deer and rabbits and how Charleswood is nothing but idyllic pastoral scenes.

this is the intersection the multi-family building will go on.

[bomberjet]

For some reason I thought the Charleswood thing was down by Roblin and Grant. But in my head I was picturing Tuxedo and Grant.

The actual location is even more appropriate the the 2 I was thinking of.

What do the millionaires want, deer pasture?

[Wigglez]

Originally Posted by trueviking

This one is a gem....the residents are all waxing poetic about their deer and rabbits and how Charleswood is nothing but idyllic pastoral scenes.

this is the intersection the multi-family building will go on.

About... god... 17 years ago now... I was driving down that peaceful, idyllic freeway called the William R Clement Parkway. As I was observing the wildlife while driving 80kph someone in a serene truck passed me doing well over 100kph on icy roads. He slammed into the back of a scenic car and spun into another wistful truck. They eventually came to rest on the tranquil median.

A 10 story skyscraper casting shadows for thousands of meters in every direction will destroy this wonderful place. Disgusting that they think this is appropriate.

[Spocket]

I'm pretty sure that these guys think of it the same way we might think of Mount Doom or something. I always think, "Yeah, but you live in a city. Urban. Concrete and all that. If you want to live in the country, well, it's not like it's all that far."

But, with that said, I also think about whether this will affect their property values. I would agree that they have the right to block it if it's going to impact the value of their property.

[zalf]

When you buy an asset, you take the profits from its appreciation and you assume the risk that its value may decline.

I'm definitely opposed to the idea that society at large must take on the downside so that homeowners only get the upsides.

[pspeid]

Originally Posted by zalf

When you buy an asset, you take the profits from its appreciation and you assume the risk that its value may decline.

I'm definitely opposed to the idea that society at large must take on the downside so that homeowners only get the upsides.

IMO fear that a home's value "might" go down, by itself, shouldn't be justification for cancelling someone else's project. Can the homeowner demonstrate that this will actually be the case? Like this post suggest, who can tell what factors might cause a home to increase or decrease in value?

[esquire]

I'm fine with it being built as planned, but having seen a rendering on the CTV News website I can appreciate why some may not be so keen on it. It's a pretty hulking building relative to the surroundings.

https://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/charlesw...pace-1.5323373

[drew]

My money is on this getting Nimby'd down to 5 or 6 stories.

Wasn't there a similar height of building proposed in Whyte Ridge a few years back, and everyone kicked up a fuss. It ended up getting built, but not as tall as originally envisioned.

[esquire]

Seems like a smart strategy to propose something a bit taller than what you want so that you can whittle it down a bit and appease the neighbours.

[Gravity Wins]

I'm not a NIMBY, but I know that area pretty well. And it's true that there are a lot of deer to be seen around there, in the trees next to the parkway. There aren't many places in the city (or the world) where you can see deer running around peacefully within city limits. I think it's a unique feature that deserves some protection.

With so many empty parking lots and gaps along Portage, I'm not sure why we want to be chopping down bits of forest anyway.

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by Gravity Wins

I'm not a NIMBY, but I know that area pretty well. And it's true that there are a lot of deer to be seen around there, in the trees next to the parkway. There aren't many places in the city (or the world) where you can see deer running around peacefully within city limits. I think it's a unique feature that deserves some protection.

With so many empty parking lots and gaps along Portage, I'm not sure why we want to be chopping down bits of forest anyway.

Here's news for you, plenty of areas elsewhere in the city where deer roamed and not too long ago, areas are developed and it's called progress!

Hell in my area coyotes have made their return and its totally developed!

[3de14eec6a]

Originally Posted by Gravity Wins

There aren't many places in the city (or the world) where you can see deer running around peacefully within city limits.

I disagree with this. There are a lot of areas in this city where deer run about right next to houses. I have even seen deer just a few minutes walk from my place downtown.

Originally Posted by Gravity Wins

I think it's a unique feature that deserves some protection.

With so many empty parking lots and gaps along Portage, I'm not sure why we want to be chopping down bits of forest anyway.

Completely agree with these statements though.

[Kris22]

Originally Posted by Gravity Wins

I'm not a NIMBY, but I know that area pretty well. And it's true that there are a lot of deer to be seen around there, in the trees next to the parkway. There aren't many places in the city (or the world) where you can see deer running around peacefully within city limits. I think it's a unique feature that deserves some protection.

With so many empty parking lots and gaps along Portage, I'm not sure why we want to be chopping down bits of forest anyway.

Well the thing is, the river is a stone's throw away, which is a permanent deer corridor, and Assiniboine Forest/Park isn't far either. So there are 2 places right near by that deer run around peacefully. I live in St. Vital, more than three blocks from the red river, and I see deer all the time. And St. Vital is extremely built up compared to Charleswood. Go anywhere near the Seine river and you will see deer too. This whole deer argument is just a distraction from typical nimbyism IMO.

It's a mid-rise near a major intersection where people drive, what, 80 km/hr?

[Wigglez]

Originally Posted by Gravity Wins

I'm not a NIMBY, but I know that area pretty well. And it's true that there are a lot of deer to be seen around there, in the trees next to the parkway. There aren't many places in the city (or the world) where you can see deer running around peacefully within city limits. I think it's a unique feature that deserves some protection.

With so many empty parking lots and gaps along Portage, I'm not sure why we want to be chopping down bits of forest anyway.

I got some bad news for ya bud... you started that off by saying you're not a NIMBY then proceeded to explain how you're a NIMBY.

[Wigglez]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

Here's news for you, plenty of areas elsewhere in the city where deer roamed and not too long ago, areas are developed and it's called progress!

Hell in my area coyotes have made their return and its totally developed!

I saw 2 foxes chasing a deer while stuck in traffic on St. Mary's one morning. And this was half a city away and the Red River between this reportedly unique Charleswood situation.

I've lived here a long time and cant think of a part of this city where I haven't seen deer/coyotes/foxes/etc fairly frequently. I saw a Raccoon the size of a Bear rummaging through my trash cans a couple years back (I'm still trying to convince myself that it wasn't, in fact, a Bear... makes it easier to keep taking trash out back)

[Jeff]

walking on the trail along Sturgeon Creek west of Sturgeon Rd. looks like some action is happening on that old car dealership lot fronting Portage that has had a 10+ floor apartment block proposed on it for awhile now. gonna displace a lot of deer!!!

[Gravity Wins]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

Here's news for you, plenty of areas elsewhere in the city where deer roamed and not too long ago, areas are developed and it's called progress!

Hell in my area coyotes have made their return and its totally developed!

What does "progress" mean to you?

Is it progress to tell people who chose to live near the outskirts of town that the forest and wildlife you live next to needs to be built over? Because why, exactly? Do we lack space in Winnipeg or something?

Let's be clear about one thing - Winnipeg is not in the same situation as cities like Vancouver. We don't need to be densifying every part of the city because the downtown area is full of towers. Quite the opposite: we have tons of surface parking lots all around downtown, and we have at least a few inner-city neighbourhoods (Exchange, Osborne, West-Broadway, etc) which could benefit from a project of this size pumping life into the neighbourhood.