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Old Posted Mar 20, 2012, 11:05 PM
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12th Street will be closed this weekend for the installation of a tower crane for 77 12th St.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2012, 3:25 AM
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^^^Awesome. They have had 2 tower crane bases in the ground now for a couple of weeks, so it's about time.

Also, Skyhouse is literally round the clock construction. I can really visibly see it now from my condo - they are 3-4 floors up and the lights are on and the crane is still moving around. I think that potentially the capital partners (UBS, Novare, and others) are wanting to be the first to market. Maybe they think that Atlanta's multifamily market, especially in Midtown, is going to be competitive and overbuilt. That may be true - rumors are that the Atlantic is going to go rental, and any day now we will hear that rumor most likely verified. Novare has also been on record stating that they will deliver in January 2013. Whatever the case may be, Batson-Cook is probably going to benefit from a huge early delivery bonus. Literally 24/7 construction.

77 12th is wayyyy behind. Their leasing center isn't even open, and keep in mind they secured equity and their construction loan before Skyhouse, and their project had long before been announced. When the shit hits the fan and the multifamily market does cool down, Novare will be in a good position. Early stabilization and then sale of property hopefully (in their perspective) before the market cools.

And to think Buckhead Atlanta hasn't gotten the dirt moving yet on their rental towers and Hines' Dresden Rd project hasn't broken ground either. It's Atlanta so you know with the local cycles there are going to be some real winners and some real losers, but no "in the middle" scenarios. With all the multifamily projects in the city we should start a bracket.
     
     
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Any news on the Coca-Cola reno ?
     
     
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I just started working World of Coca~Cola. I'll ask around.
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^^^Awesome. They have had 2 tower crane bases in the ground now for a couple of weeks, so it's about time.

Also, Skyhouse is literally round the clock construction. I can really visibly see it now from my condo - they are 3-4 floors up and the lights are on and the crane is still moving around. I think that potentially the capital partners (UBS, Novare, and others) are wanting to be the first to market. Maybe they think that Atlanta's multifamily market, especially in Midtown, is going to be competitive and overbuilt. That may be true - rumors are that the Atlantic is going to go rental, and any day now we will hear that rumor most likely verified. Novare has also been on record stating that they will deliver in January 2013. Whatever the case may be, Batson-Cook is probably going to benefit from a huge early delivery bonus. Literally 24/7 construction.

77 12th is wayyyy behind. Their leasing center isn't even open, and keep in mind they secured equity and their construction loan before Skyhouse, and their project had long before been announced. When the shit hits the fan and the multifamily market does cool down, Novare will be in a good position. Early stabilization and then sale of property hopefully (in their perspective) before the market cools.

And to think Buckhead Atlanta hasn't gotten the dirt moving yet on their rental towers and Hines' Dresden Rd project hasn't broken ground either. It's Atlanta so you know with the local cycles there are going to be some real winners and some real losers, but no "in the middle" scenarios. With all the multifamily projects in the city we should start a bracket.
what is the definition of a multifamily project? is it anything special, other than just being a multi unit apartment/condo building?
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2012, 4:11 AM
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Depends who you ask and where. Here in Atlanta 99% of the time it is going to mean rentals. Condos and rentals are completely different in every way, as you can imagine. In Atlanta condos are condos and multifamily, apartments and rentals are all the same thing.

As you can also imagine due to the nature of the Atlanta market and the macro-condo market overall, nobody is putting up new condos or doing conversions here in Atlanta at this time. All the towers and mid-rises you see planned or going up are multifamily, aka rentals, so I joked that we should have a bracket. A lot of the major players each have something going on in intown Atlanta at this point and some are slow to start and some are going to deliver early, so assuming there is potentially a multifamily bubble, we should start a bracket.

The players are Novare/UBS, Daniel/Northwestern Mutual, Cousins/Gables, Hines, Daniel/Metlife, North American Properties, whoever closed on the Atlantic, the current owner of Mezzo, Coro Realty Advisors, Oliver MacMillan, AMLI, Westbridge Partners, and of course there are others.

You can look at timing, product, submarket, pricing, amenities, or any other factors.

Who's going to be a winner and who's not? Once more projects get further under way there should seriously be a bracket and we should track all the way to sale upon stabilization. It could be a basic analysis of what to do and how to do it, and what not to do and why/how not to do it.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2012, 5:12 AM
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Finally...a retail opening at 935 Marietta

     
     
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2012, 8:15 PM
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The 3rd Tower Crane in Midtown and the 1st of 2 for 77 12th St is now up and running!!!!!!!!!!

http://oxblue.com/open/brasfieldgorrie/7712thstreet

I wanted to be firts to officially report again
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2012, 12:25 AM
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Any news on the Coca-Cola reno ?
should be done by 2020 /s
coke tends to move slow and purchasing coca-cola didnt help
     
     
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The Tyler Perry studio on Krog Street is under contract. The developer is moving forward with a 100+ multifamily units.
     
     
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The Tyler Perry studio on Krog Street is under contract. The developer is moving forward with a 100+ multifamily units.
This is going to be a tower?
     
     
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The Tyler Perry studio on Krog Street is under contract. The developer is moving forward with a 100+ multifamily units.
Do you have a link?
     
     
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This is going to be a tower?
No its not a tower
     
     
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A couple more updates.

Avalon in Alpharetta is planning on moving forward quick. The project is planned on being completed in 2013. They have kept most of the retailers who signed on in the beggining but North American has added some huge names in the mix. JCT Kitchen, APPLE, Barcelona Wine Bar, Anthropologie, and Free People.

At the intersection of the Beltline and Highland Ave, there is a lot of activity going on. The Beltline construction and the corner site is being graded currently. Two phases of townhomes.
     
     
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The 2nd crane at 77 12th is up: )
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2012, 1:28 AM
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Depends who you ask and where. Here in Atlanta 99% of the time it is going to mean rentals. Condos and rentals are completely different in every way, as you can imagine. In Atlanta condos are condos and multifamily, apartments and rentals are all the same thing.

As you can also imagine due to the nature of the Atlanta market and the macro-condo market overall, nobody is putting up new condos or doing conversions here in Atlanta at this time. All the towers and mid-rises you see planned or going up are multifamily, aka rentals, so I joked that we should have a bracket. A lot of the major players each have something going on in intown Atlanta at this point and some are slow to start and some are going to deliver early, so assuming there is potentially a multifamily bubble, we should start a bracket.

The players are Novare/UBS, Daniel/Northwestern Mutual, Cousins/Gables, Hines, Daniel/Metlife, North American Properties, whoever closed on the Atlantic, the current owner of Mezzo, Coro Realty Advisors, Oliver MacMillan, AMLI, Westbridge Partners, and of course there are others.

You can look at timing, product, submarket, pricing, amenities, or any other factors.

Who's going to be a winner and who's not? Once more projects get further under way there should seriously be a bracket and we should track all the way to sale upon stabilization. It could be a basic analysis of what to do and how to do it, and what not to do and why/how not to do it.
Hey Simms,

Have you heard any updates recently about what's going on with the space across from White Provision @ 14th and Howell Mill? It was supposed to be Westbridge doing mixed-use ("luxury" rental and retail), but a little birdie (i.e., another developer) told me that fell through. Supposedly Westbridge floated the idea to the Atlanta Business Chronicle just to see if any investors would bite. So last I heard, some other party bought the land and are now sitting on it.

There's also a patch of land between JCT and the Goat Farm off of Huff that's been razed recently. Rumors are that there's a different developer sitting on that plot and waiting to build multi-family. Any idea who that is?

The Westside certainly needs more infill. As long as the apartments are done decently, I'm happy to see more density.

(P.S. I too heard from a different source that the Atlantic will be going all rental. Seems like the smart thing to do, and it will help the ATL condo market out immensely.)
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2012, 11:11 AM
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Hey Simms,

Have you heard any updates recently about what's going on with the space across from White Provision @ 14th and Howell Mill? It was supposed to be Westbridge doing mixed-use ("luxury" rental and retail), but a little birdie (i.e., another developer) told me that fell through. Supposedly Westbridge floated the idea to the Atlanta Business Chronicle just to see if any investors would bite. So last I heard, some other party bought the land and are now sitting on it.

There's also a patch of land between JCT and the Goat Farm off of Huff that's been razed recently. Rumors are that there's a different developer sitting on that plot and waiting to build multi-family. Any idea who that is?

The Westside certainly needs more infill. As long as the apartments are done decently, I'm happy to see more density.

(P.S. I too heard from a different source that the Atlantic will be going all rental. Seems like the smart thing to do, and it will help the ATL condo market out immensely.)
Haven't heard anything.
     
     
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Hey Simms,

Have you heard any updates recently about what's going on with the space across from White Provision @ 14th and Howell Mill? It was supposed to be Westbridge doing mixed-use ("luxury" rental and retail), but a little birdie (i.e., another developer) told me that fell through. Supposedly Westbridge floated the idea to the Atlanta Business Chronicle just to see if any investors would bite. So last I heard, some other party bought the land and are now sitting on it.

There's also a patch of land between JCT and the Goat Farm off of Huff that's been razed recently. Rumors are that there's a different developer sitting on that plot and waiting to build multi-family. Any idea who that is?

The Westside certainly needs more infill. As long as the apartments are done decently, I'm happy to see more density.

(P.S. I too heard from a different source that the Atlantic will be going all rental. Seems like the smart thing to do, and it will help the ATL condo market out immensely.)
As far as I have "heard", it has not fell through. They have financing and great retailers signed up for the building. I wish they would release the renderings.... It looks GREAT. Reminds me of 935m. Right on the street and blends really well in with the old White Provisions building. The added streetscape and trees will really help the block. This area needs some more greenspace/trees.
     
     
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