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Originally Posted by Nouvellecosse
It's absolutely true that in car-dominated areas there is usually a greater risk from car-related injuries than from the crime in many more urban areas. The "Oh the Urbanity!" channel discussed this fairly recently and even showed actual stats. It isn't just two equal risks with one that some people are more familiar with and another that other people recognize. It's that one - crime - is a widely recognized risk that basically everyone is aware of to some degree with some placing greater emphasis on it than others, while the other - car dominance - is a risk that some don't even realize exists. There are probably many people who think that settings with wide, straight, multi-lane streets are actually safer to drive on since the infrastructure is specifically designed for the efficient flow of cars. Yet in reality, it's statistically more dangerous because of the higher speeds, false sense of security, complacency, and the much higher number of vehicle miles driven.
I get that most things can be viewed from more than one side or perspective, but I hate false equivalences where people try to pretend that everything is perfectly symmetrical when few things are.
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The only thing this video proves is that American driving, whether urban or suburban, is more dangerous than other western countries but specifically Canada. And of course they are only looking at violent crime. A burglary or someone stealing your car isn't a violent crime.
There's more to the story than just the stats. For example California suburbs have some wide roads with speed limits up to 55 MPH in some places. Then you have LA with a weird mix of urban-suburban. Yet California as a state was closer to Canadian provinces, yet the rural Southern states are at the top of the list with Mississippi leading the way. Is MS known for fast growing typical American suburbs? Nope.
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Originally Posted by SIGSEGV
Texas has a motor vehicle death rate of 15/100K in 2023. Dallas, the most shooty large Texas city, had a murder rate of 19/100k last year. For most people who aren't part of gangs or get into fights over dumb shit, they probably are significantly more likely to die from driving than from being shot.
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You're just looking at murder rate which is the ultimate crime but not the only one people consider when they leave the city. You can add people who don't drive at certain times of the day are less likely to be in a fatal accident too. What are we going to do next? Say people who drive to work are dumb because statistically it is safer to fly a helicopter so they should save up for one?