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View Poll Results: Which of the designs would you like to see become the new Lansdowne 'Front Lawn'?
Option A: "One Park, Four Landscapes" 12 11.88%
Option B: "Win Place Show" 23 22.77%
Option C: "A Force of Nature" 14 13.86%
Option D: "All Roads Lead to Aberdeen" 16 15.84%
Option E: "The Canal Park in Ottawa" 18 17.82%
None of the above. Please keep my ashphalt. 18 17.82%
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From City of Ottawa Website: http://ottawa.ca/en/city-hall/planning-a...g-ottawa/lansdowne-park-official-opening


Lansdowne Park - Official Opening

Come reflect on Lansdowne’s rich history as a place of community and celebration at the official park opening. Please join us on August 16 for an old-fashioned carnival and picnic in the park.


The day will feature events and activities for the entire family, and provide an opportunity to explore the heritage, modern amenities and natural beauty of one of Ottawa’s signature attractions.

Lansdowne Park Official Opening

Saturday, August 16, 2014

11 a.m. to 3 p.m.
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Do you happen to know what the gaps in the veil are?
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My guess is that the prefab components for that spot didn't fit correctly and so they have to wait to manufacture new ones. The gaps weren't in the renders.
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My guess is that the prefab components for that spot didn't fit correctly and so they have to wait to manufacture new ones. The gaps weren't in the renders.
They better fix em, that looks awful with the big holes in it.
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They better fix em, that looks awful with the big holes in it.
You can see the cold, hard concrete through the cracks in the warm, soft wood. It looks very busy. Will the veil be outfitted with some kind of membrane to dampen the visibility of inner structure? Or will the inner structure always be visible through the cracks? It hurts my eyes.

From the looks of it, attending an event on the south side during rain means you're getting wet, whether you're in the stands (no roof) or at the concessions (no watertight walls)
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You can see the cold, hard concrete through the cracks in the warm, soft wood. It looks very busy. Will the veil be outfitted with some kind of membrane to dampen the visibility of inner structure? Or will the inner structure always be visible through the cracks? It hurts my eyes.

From the looks of it, attending an event on the south side during rain means you're getting wet, whether you're in the stands (no roof) or at the concessions (no watertight walls)
Lets hope thats not the case, because if it is, then South side sucks!

My beef at the moment, is with their plans to sell tickets only for the South side for Fury games. Its very amateur-ish, highschool-ish, to have fans sitting only on one side of the pitch. I understand they want to make it seem like the stands are full if its on TV, but for those at the game, you're looking at the empty North stands, which is a bummer. Why not just sell tickets to both North and South stands, but only for the bottom half of the stands? I am hoping that if they start getting 10,000 fans out for Fury games, that they go this route and open up the North stands too.
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I understand they want to make it seem like the stands are full if its on TV, but for those at the game, you're looking at the empty North stands, which is a bummer.
Staring at an bland reminder of boring 1960s architecture is a bummer? There are some on this thread who would take exception to that.
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Why not open both north and south stands but only sell every second seat (ie. keep empty seat between each person). That would also give plenty of elbow room for spectators.

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Lets hope thats not the case, because if it is, then South side sucks!

My beef at the moment, is with their plans to sell tickets only for the South side for Fury games. Its very amateur-ish, highschool-ish, to have fans sitting only on one side of the pitch. I understand they want to make it seem like the stands are full if its on TV, but for those at the game, you're looking at the empty North stands, which is a bummer. Why not just sell tickets to both North and South stands, but only for the bottom half of the stands? I am hoping that if they start getting 10,000 fans out for Fury games, that they go this route and open up the North stands too.
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Why not open both north and south stands but only sell every second seat (ie. keep empty seat between each person). That would also give plenty of elbow room for spectators.
Never heard of that idea, but it doesn't sound like a half-bad idea. I suppose the people in the top of the stadium could complain that there are better seats available, but if everyone knows how it works going in...
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Why not open both north and south stands but only sell every second seat (ie. keep empty seat between each person). That would also give plenty of elbow room for spectators.
If you were a group of 4 people sitting together, you'd be quite spread out. It would also make it hard to share a bag of popcorn.

The reality is this stadium is far bigger than needed for the NASL. So no matter what, using this stadium is going to have its challenges. But the other stadia in the city aren't any better for this venture, so it is what we have to work with.
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I think the reason they only open half the stands for small events is cost. That way they only have to clean up half the stadium, instead of all of it.
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I think the reason they only open half the stands for small events is cost. That way they only have to clean up half the stadium, instead of all of it.
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You can see the cold, hard concrete through the cracks in the warm, soft wood. It looks very busy. Will the veil be outfitted with some kind of membrane to dampen the visibility of inner structure? Or will the inner structure always be visible through the cracks? It hurts my eyes.

From the looks of it, attending an event on the south side during rain means you're getting wet, whether you're in the stands (no roof) or at the concessions (no watertight walls)
Wait, I thought you were against spending money on anything that played a purely aesthetic function (based on your previous comments regarding the veil). So, how it looks isn't the issue.
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Wait, I thought you were against spending money on anything that played a purely aesthetic function (based on your previous comments regarding the veil). So, how it looks isn't the issue.
Pointing out that the veil: a) served no functional purpose and yet b) was expensive was my way of pointing out a certain contradiction in the whole development. Everything I am hearing on this forum suggests that this needed to be a frugal cost effective project. No unwarranted expenses. Good enough is good enough. So why bother with the veil at all? It's just weird how "form" was important looking in one direction, but not the other. If you're gonna go cheap, then go cheap all the way. And/or vice versa. I just can't seem to make sense of any if it.
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I just can't seem to make sense of any if it.
Clearly.
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I'm kinda agreeing with Fatty here... the veil does look cheap. Perhaps they still need to add a varnish/finish to it and fill in those gaps that have been previously pointed out, but if it's to remain mostly as it is right now, I dont think the job was a success.
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I think they should have used wider slats or slightly angled them for more of a louvred effect (plus dirt, rain and snow would just drip or slide off). I find the veil too transparent it does an inadequate job of screening the inner structure.
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I think they should have used wider slats or slightly angled them for more of a louvred effect (plus dirt, rain and snow would just drip or slide off). I find the veil too transparent it does an inadequate job of screening the inner structure.
Agreed.

I also find that the vertical wood beams do not work well with the horozontal pieces. Looks choppy and incomplete. The visible concrete structure that is all too visible behind the wood further adds to the chaos. Maybe the final product will bear some resemblance to the renders, but as it stands now the whole thing is beginning to look like a dog's breakfast. There's something just "off" about it, and I'm glad to hear from others who have made the same observations.
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I'm kinda agreeing with Fatty here... the veil does look cheap. Perhaps they still need to add a varnish/finish to it and fill in those gaps that have been previously pointed out, but if it's to remain mostly as it is right now, I dont think the job was a success.
I thought from the start that they were going to varnish it, but I don't think that is the case. I think they want the wood to get weathered over time.

Also, looking at it straight-on from North-to-South the front of the veil looks a bit uneven in some spots (ie, it's not a smooth continuous curve) - mostly at the joints. Hopefully they will fine-tune the adjustments before opening so the structure looks more polished.

Although I do agree about the gaps between the slats of the veil, I don't think there should be any surprises about that. The renderings have never indicated that a membrane of some sort would be included to block the elements. With that said, I would assume that to be a post-launch addition if they felt it was necessary.
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