SAN FRANCISCO | Projects: Under Construction, Approved, and Proposed - Page 210

timbad · #**4181** Posted **Dec 4, 2012, 7:16 AM**

was walking beyond (west of) 10th and Market - which has its own thread anyway - once the sun came out this weekend, and here is a quick update on the projects I wandered past (sorry, I am too lazy at the moment to look up street numbers), from east to west:

first, the small one on the corner of Market, Franklin and Page:

and the one next to the LGBT Center near Octavia Blvd, from a couple angles:

not too much to see yet at the one next door to the SF Mint and Safeway:

kitty corner from there, on the corner of Dolores, the Whole Foods project is rising above street level:

the gas station on the south side corner of 15th is fenced off, but I didn't notice evidence of activity there:

kitty corner from there, corner of 15th on the north side, former site of the Thai place, is also fenced but as far as I could tell, inactive:

this is across from Café Flore, at Noe:

viewguysf · #**4182** Posted **Dec 4, 2012, 3:07 PM**

Thanks for the Upper Market update timbad! Amazing changes are indeed coming to my extended 'hood (I live on the top of Market Street); it will certainly feel more lively, lived in and crowed at times.

fflint · #**4183** Posted **Dec 5, 2012, 12:03 AM**

This site is already being excavated. It looks like they started right up next to the motel. It's pretty deep already and I saw some big trucks coming up out of the hole the other day. You can see the action a lot better from the 15th Street side.

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Originally Posted by timbad

kitty corner from there, corner of 15th on the north side, former site of the Thai place, is also fenced but as far as I could tell, inactive:

CyberEric · #**4184** Posted **Dec 5, 2012, 2:41 AM**

Wow, lots going on around Upper Market, had no idea about some of these.
Remind me, what was in the spot across from Cafe Flore?

Jerry of San Fran · #**4185** Posted **Dec 5, 2012, 4:38 AM**

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Originally Posted by CyberEric

Wow, lots going on around Upper Market, had no idea about some of these.
Remind me, what was in the spot across from Cafe Flore?

CyberEric - there used to be a church on the corner of Noe/16th/Market Streets. It is believed an arsonist burned it. It then remained a hole in the ground for over 25 years.

timbad · #**4186** Posted **Dec 5, 2012, 5:38 AM**

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Originally Posted by Jerry of San Fran

CyberEric - there used to be a church on the corner of Noe/16th/Market Streets. It is believed an arsonist burned it. It then remained a hole in the ground for over 25 years.

thanks for the reminder on the history, Jerry! is that where, in its hole incarnation, the Peace mural was visible?

there is also still a vacant lot (well, it might have Xmas trees on it at the moment) at the same intersection as the two sites on 15th St, on the corner of Sanchez. I forget if anything is in the works for that. I have to say, whoever owns it keeps it in nice condition - as nice as empty can be, that is.

now we just need to get rid of those gas stations at Castro and Market! I know there is a proposal for the one on the north side, but man, does that other one, where the F-line turns around, need to not be there!

info about some of the projects was helpfully collected in this article earlier this year

timbad · #**4187** Posted **Dec 5, 2012, 6:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by fflint

This site is already being excavated. ... You can see the action a lot better from the 15th Street side.

thanks fflint!

timbad · #**4188** Posted **Dec 5, 2012, 7:37 AM**

333 Fremont is no longer the most impressive hole in the City. we could call this the Iceberg Building - I swear they must have built more floors underground than there will be above. but it has now reached the surface, finally:

also a quick look at Rincon Green's front yard in progress. the look of the building itself doesn't excite me at all (are they done with the exterior? is that it?), but I'm more hopeful about its setting (and I do think that archway into the interior is kinda cool):

CyberEric · #**4189** Posted **Dec 5, 2012, 7:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jerry of San Fran

CyberEric - there used to be a church on the corner of Noe/16th/Market Streets. It is believed an arsonist burned it. It then remained a hole in the ground for over 25 years.

Thanks Jerry, now I remember the empty lot there (haven't been here 25 years to remember the church

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fflint · #**4190** Posted **Dec 5, 2012, 9:07 PM**

Okay guys, check out the interactive rendering porn on the Transbay website: http://transbaycenter.org/interactive

Amazing!

Grantenfuego · #**4191** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 1:42 AM**

I love that funicular type thing in mission square going to the park on top. I really hope that gets built.

hruski · #**4192** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 1:58 AM**

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Originally Posted by Grantenfuego

I love that funicular type thing in mission square going to the park on top. I really hope that gets built.

Really?
It seems completely impractical to me. It can transport, what, about 8 people at a time to the top of the park? Just use escalators/elevators. Or maybe even stairs (gasp!) like they do on the high-line in NYC.

Grantenfuego · #**4193** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 2:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by hruski

Really?
It seems completely impractical to me. It can transport, what, about 8 people at a time to the top of the park? Just use escalators/elevators. Or maybe even stairs (gasp!) like they do on the high-line in NYC.

There needs to be an elevator for wheelchair users and people with mobility issues somewhere. Why not make it a unique one with a bit of a view? Depending on the cost, of course. If it makes sense, go for it.

hruski · #**4194** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 8:35 AM**

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Originally Posted by Grantenfuego

There needs to be an elevator for wheelchair users and people with mobility issues somewhere. Why not make it a unique one with a bit of a view? Depending on the cost, of course. If it makes sense, go for it.

Because it's bound to be more expensive, less space-efficient, and slower than any other kind of elevator. You can make a glass elevator that goes straight up and down if you want a view.

fflint · #**4195** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 9:00 AM**

The funicular is just one of the ways to get up to the park. It's not like there aren't any other ways.

hruski · #**4196** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 9:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by fflint

The funicular is just one of the ways to get up to the park. It's not like there aren't any other ways.

If I'm not mistaken, the funicular is the only way to get directly to the top of the park from Mission Square.

fflint · #**4197** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 9:12 AM**

Directly? Sure.

Do you think there will be huge crowds seeking entrance to the park from that corner who won't actually enter the transit center? I'm not getting the critique.

San Frangelino · #**4198** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 6:23 PM**

The Bay Lights –1,000 out of 25,000 lights are installed!

Check out video of the lights being tested HERE!

tech12 · #**4199** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 8:22 PM**

Sweet! I hope they keep it up permanently, rather than just two years.

CyberEric · #**4200** Posted **Dec 7, 2012, 5:38 PM**

The Bay Bridge Lights are amazing already! I really hope they stay, one of the coolest projects going right now.