[Saint John] Port Development

[PSJ harbour]

Originally Posted by cdnguys

Feb 10th is showing 3 ships in including the larger NYK. Be interesting to see if sched holds

I would say the schedule changes 15 times from now and Feb 10th! lots of delays due to North Atlantic weather. Also the cranes, usually they can’t work in any more than 35knots. There are alarms that will kick in and stop the crane at certain speeds of wind. It’s so difficult to land the spreader on a box in high winds. Landing on a truck is hard in high winds as well. Usually the cranes are stowed down in 40 knots or more. Several times a year you will see them together at new dock tied down.

[sailor734]

Originally Posted by PSJ harbour

I would say the schedule changes 15 times from now and Feb 10th! lots of delays due to North Atlantic weather. Also the cranes, usually they can’t work in any more than 35knots. There are alarms that will kick in and stop the crane at certain speeds of wind. It’s so difficult to land the spreader on a box in high winds. Landing on a truck is hard in high winds as well. Usually the cranes are stowed down in 40 knots or more. Several times a year you will see them together at new dock tied down.

Interesting. I guess they can be blown over if the winds get high enough.....pretty unlikely around here though.


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[Ottawa]

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[CharlotteCountyLogan]

I've noticed over the past few days a backlog of Cargo ships in the Bay. 2 ships in port and 2/3 in the bay with more coming it seems every day. Now I dont know why there is a backlog but it shows that a 3rd pair of cranes would be good.

[PSJ harbour]

Originally Posted by CharlotteCountyLogan

I've noticed over the past few days a backlog of Cargo ships in the Bay. 2 ships in port and 2/3 in the bay with more coming it seems every day. Now I dont know why there is a backlog but it shows that a 3rd pair of cranes would be good.

There are 6 weekly calls, once a couple get backed up due to weather, and a couple have more moves than normal, plus a crane being down, it creates a bottle neck. They haven’t been doing overnights since the AT3 service, but if ships keep up the pace it will certainly be an option. A looming Montreal strike is also being closely watched.

[cdnguys]

Originally Posted by PSJ harbour

There are 6 weekly calls, once a couple get backed up due to weather, and a couple have more moves than normal, plus a crane being down, it creates a bottle neck. They haven’t been doing overnights since the AT3 service, but if ships keep up the pace it will certainly be an option. A looming Montreal strike is also being closely watched.

At what point will they redirect ships to Saint John? Before the strike? Once 72 hour strike notice given? Slow vessels down for delayed arrival? Or they’ll hedge their bets for back to work legislation? Also can CP and NBSR scale up really fast to handle cargo between SJ and Montreal? Last strike seems like Halifax got the diverted ships but wondering if that will be different now with our expansion.

[PSJ harbour]

Originally Posted by cdnguys

At what point will they redirect ships to Saint John? Before the strike? Once 72 hour strike notice given? Slow vessels down for delayed arrival? Or they’ll hedge their bets for back to work legislation? Also can CP and NBSR scale up really fast to handle cargo between SJ and Montreal? Last strike seems like Halifax got the diverted ships but wondering if that will be different now with our expansion.

Once labour comes to a stop is likely when diversions would start. Some carriers may wait a couple days I would imagine but if it’s looking like a long strike they would look else where quick.

Saint John could handle some diversions for sure, but could not handle all the extra ships. All nighters would have to start and labour would become an issue quickly, as the workforce would be exhausted relatively quickly. The rail has kept up with current cargo, so the rail lines would be in same boat, more workers and equipment would be needed. The dwell times would certainly increase, but the cargo would make it on the ground. Halifax would get many diversions as well.

[cdnguys]

Any loaded containers loaded or unloaded from Chacabuco? Or just picking up empties?

[PSJ harbour]

Originally Posted by cdnguys

Any loaded containers loaded or unloaded from Chacabuco? Or just picking up empties?

Less then a dozen loads, just under 1200 empties

[cdnguys]

Originally Posted by PSJ harbour

Less then a dozen loads, just under 1200 empties

1200 seems significant

[cdnguys]

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[Ottawa]

Originally Posted by PSJ harbour

Less then a dozen loads, just under 1200 empties

Hi PSJ. Do you have any ETA when that south Rodney crane is to be operational?

[sailor734]

Originally Posted by cdnguys

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Interesting shot. Would two cranes be normal for working a ship this size or would larger ports use more?

[PSJ harbour]

Originally Posted by sailor734

Interesting shot. Would two cranes be normal for working a ship this size or would larger ports use more?

Another week for a part is latest rumour I overheard. Depends on the turnaround on the ship for how many cranes are used. A ship this size can accommodate 5 cranes easily, but only two are required if there is a smaller turnaround.

[sailor734]

Originally Posted by PSJ harbour

Another week for a part is latest rumour I overheard. Depends on the turnaround on the ship for how many cranes are used. A ship this size can accommodate 5 cranes easily, but only two are required if there is a smaller turnaround.

Is the issue with one of the smaller cranes a one off or are they getting to an age where reliability (and perhaps parts availability) will start to be an issue.

If we get the rumoured two additional cranes (hand me downs from Prince Rupert someone suggested?) would they be intended to bring to total to six or would they replace the two older cranes?

[PSJ harbour]

Originally Posted by sailor734

Is the issue with one of the smaller cranes a one off or are they getting to an age where reliability (and perhaps parts availability) will start to be an issue.

If we get the rumoured two additional cranes (hand me downs from Prince Rupert someone suggested?) would they be intended to bring to total to six or would they replace the two older cranes?

They will keep the old ones. The smaller ones are from the 90’s and bigger ones from the 2000’s. The smaller ones came from Carolinas, where the temperature is always high and no snow. Canadian winters are hard on the cranes, just like they are hard on your cars. Salt, snow stuck in wheel wells, ice rubbing your tires when you turn, ice/snow built up everywhere. The same goes for the cranes. Things freeze in the cold temperatures and break downs are common. 6 cranes would allow breakdowns to not have such a large impact on vessels waiting. I think both south cranes are broke down now.

[sailor734]

Originally Posted by PSJ harbour

They will keep the old ones. The smaller ones are from the 90’s and bigger ones from the 2000’s. The smaller ones came from Carolinas, where the temperature is always high and no snow. Canadian winters are hard on the cranes, just like they are hard on your cars. Salt, snow stuck in wheel wells, ice rubbing your tires when you turn, ice/snow built up everywhere. The same goes for the cranes. Things freeze in the cold temperatures and break downs are common. 6 cranes would allow breakdowns to not have such a large impact on vessels waiting. I think both south cranes are broke down now.

Looks like one of the South (older) ones was working a ship when I came through the foot of King St earlier today.....st least the boom was down and extended over the ship at the old part of the container dock.

[CharlotteCountyLogan]

The Port posted some charts on their Facebook page showing that the number of TEUs that passed through was 153,454 which is a 2% increase/3260 TEU increase over the record breaking 2022 numbers. Potash was up by 81% over 2022 hitting 2.28 MMT. Overall it was a great year for the Port. Only up from here

[cdnguys]

Originally Posted by CharlotteCountyLogan

The Port posted some charts on their Facebook page showing that the number of TEUs that passed through was 153,454 which is a 2% increase/3260 TEU increase over the record breaking 2022 numbers. Potash was up by 81% over 2022 hitting 2.28 MMT. Overall it was a great year for the Port. Only up from here

That’s pretty impressive in the current climate. Halifax at end of their Q3 was down 8.7%. Be interesting to see where they land