Mueller Area Development Updates

[lonewolf]

Originally Posted by JACKinBeantown

Three structures collapsed and over 20 people injured doesn't seem that bad?

mate i really really really don't think he's referring to that aspect of it

[freerover]

Originally Posted by JACKinBeantown

Three structures collapsed and over 20 people injured doesn't seem that bad?

It doesn't match the initial alert that went out of cranes and 3 structures collapsing. As in it's not as bad as initially reported.

[H2O]

October Construction Updates

Cranes from my bedroom window




Crane assembly




Branch Park Pavilion




AMLI Branch Park and Alpha



Crane Assembly




Branch Park Pavilion




Crane base at AMLI Branch Park




Origin Hotel




Alpha topped out




Alpha @ Aldrich and McBee




Origin again

[gillynova]

The news article made it's way to Bay Area news outlets lol

[clubtokyo]

It was on CNNs main website

[H2O]

The article does not say three structures collapsed. Maybe it was updated from the initial call which described it as a crane collapse? The cranes have not collapsed. I can see them from my bedroom window. Word in the 'hood is that nobody was seriously injured from anything falling. Ironically, apparently the crew was conducting a safety meeting below the crane swings when they collided. The injuries were the result of panic in reaction to the collision overhead. At one point, it was reported that EMS was attempting to rescue the crane operator in the cab. The KXAN article now says that he is remaining in the cab with his foot on the brake to prevent the crane from collapsing until the crane company can respond to untangle the two cranes.

[JACKinBeantown]

Originally Posted by H2O

At one point, it was reported that EMS was attempting to rescue the crane operator in the cab. The KXAN article now says that he is remaining in the cab with his foot on the brake to prevent the crane from collapsing until the crane company can respond to untangle the two cranes.

No pressure there. Glad people are OK.

[drummer]

Video didn't show on here for me but the link to Youtube worked. Well done! Those were some awesome shots of the area.

[Paco Jones]

Project:
Mueller Condos (1808 Aldrich)

Address:
1701 Simond Avenue
Austin, TX 78723

Owner:
Pearlstone Partners

Architect:
STG Design

Expected Start:
Mar 1, 2021

Expected Finish:
Mar 31, 2023

Information:
Project is a six-story mixed use building. Level one consists of one (1) ground floor retail space (4,884 SF) and eight (8) office spaces (22,317 total SF), parking, services, and residential amenities. There is a four-level parking garage with a courtyard podium and 200 residential condos that wrap the garage from levels 2-6. 255,824 SF of residential space.

[Syndic]

Oh hell yes. That is perfect. I'm such a huge sucker for a well-done curvy corner building like that.

[lonewolf]

This is exactly the kind of project I want to see everywhere. It's an absolutely generic design but the scale and function is exactly what we need. Built to human scale. Retail on ground floor. Be it paris, london, or cities of the med...the most picturesque and sought after neighborhoods on this planet consists of buildings (albeit more tasteful) exactly like this.

Originally Posted by Paco Jones

Project:
Mueller Condos (1808 Aldrich)

Address:
1701 Simond Avenue
Austin, TX 78723

Owner:
Pearlstone Partners

Architect:
STG Design

Expected Start:
Mar 1, 2021

Expected Finish:
Mar 31, 2023

Information:
Project is a six-story mixed use building. Level one consists of one (1) ground floor retail space (4,884 SF) and eight (8) office spaces (22,317 total SF), parking, services, and residential amenities. There is a four-level parking garage with a courtyard podium and 200 residential condos that wrap the garage from levels 2-6. 255,824 SF of residential space.

[enragedcamel]

Man I really do think all these low/mid-rises are a waste in Mueller. Wish the zone allowed for 300 ft or even higher. It's the perfect location for a mini downtown IMO.

[Global]

Originally Posted by enragedcamel

Man I really do think all these low/mid-rises are a waste in Mueller. Wish the zone allowed for 300 ft or even higher. It's the perfect location for a mini downtown IMO.

As a Mueller resident, I can tell you while I love dense urban environments, we do not need 300+ ft towers in Mueller, and it's not the NIMBY reason you think. If you were to live here for a week you'd understand why very quickly. In both the downtown areas of Austin and in the suburban areas of Austin, the city streets are much wider than in Mueller. It's not just a matter of traffic, but buildings feel much closer to one another here than in downtown.

I think what we have now is a good compromise between density and a livable scale.

[lonewolf]

Originally Posted by Global

As a Mueller resident, I can tell you while I love dense urban environments, we do not need 300+ ft towers in Mueller, and it's not the NIMBY reason you think. If you were to live here for a week you'd understand why very quickly. In both the downtown areas of Austin and in the suburban areas of Austin, the city streets are much wider than in Mueller. It's not just a matter of traffic, but buildings feel much closer to one another here than in downtown.

I think what we have now is a good compromise between density and a livable scale.

your feelings are backed up by centuries of urban design, countless polls of urban residents and also relocation statistics from when people were forced to live in their own communities(2020)

the thought that building >300' are needed for density are a complete meme. visit tokyo or mexico city. people want want to walk in neighborhoods where they can see the sky, where shadows don't swallow entire campuses and tall buildings and where they can shop everywhere.

too much urban design the past 100 years has optimized for the postcard, or the opening film credits, and not the family or the young couple walking at night. the "micro village" or "urban village" MUD trend is a return to our roots as humans

https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/stat...933236736?s=20

[enragedcamel]

Originally Posted by lonewolf

your feelings are backed up by centuries of urban design, countless polls of urban residents and also relocation statistics from when people were forced to live in their own communities(2020)

the thought that building >300' are needed for density are a complete meme. visit tokyo or mexico city. people want want to walk in neighborhoods where they can see the sky, where shadows don't swallow entire campuses and tall buildings and where they can shop everywhere.

too much urban design the past 100 years has optimized for the postcard, or the opening film credits, and not the family or the young couple walking at night. the "micro village" or "urban village" MUD trend is a return to our roots as humans

https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/stat...933236736?s=20

You bring up walkability, but Manhattan, one of the densest urban cores in the world, is also the most walkable urban area in the United States.

"Being able to see the sky" seems like an arbitrary and subjective measure.

[lonewolf]

Originally Posted by enragedcamel

You bring up walkability, but Manhattan, one of the densest urban cores in the world, is also the most walkable urban area in the United States.

"Being able to see the sky" seems like an arbitrary and subjective measure.

manhattan is a dumpster fire. as soon as commerce shut down people bailed because there are no reasons to stay there. resettled to less dense environments across the country.

don't take my word for it, look up rental/owning price patterns, corporate relos, flurry of articles about the effects of shutdown.

walkability (albeit very important) is only one piece of the puzzle.

there are cities in europe that shut down commerce that boast world class density. why did those cities stay full?

[StoOgE]

Originally Posted by lonewolf

the thought that building >300' are needed for density are a complete meme. visit tokyo
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As someone who has spent a lot of time in Tokyo - I think this is a poor example.

1) Tokyo has extreme height and density near all of its major train stations. I don't think anyone would claim that Shinjuku, Shibuya or Chioda are examples of pastoral environments. The only reason Tokyo isn't littered with 1000' buildings is Earthquake precautions.

2) Even smaller stations/neighborhoods like Shimokita/Nakano are filled with 10-15 story buildings and extremely narrow streets.

Tokyo is a massively dense and massively vertical near its main stations. It also has the best rail and subway network on Earth and largely is a city that is not car dependent at all (well, until midnight :p).

[clubtokyo]

Originally Posted by StoOgE

As someone who has spent a lot of time in Tokyo - I think this is a poor example.

1) Tokyo has extreme height and density near all of its major train stations. I don't think anyone would claim that Shinjuku, Shibuya or Chioda are examples of pastoral environments. The only reason Tokyo isn't littered with 1000' buildings is Earthquake precautions.

2) Even smaller stations/neighborhoods like Shimokita/Nakano are filled with 10-15 story buildings and extremely narrow streets.

Tokyo is a massively dense and massively vertical near its main stations. It also has the best rail and subway network on Earth and largely is a city that is not car dependent at all (well, until midnight :p).

Agreed! I freaking love the density of Tokyo and the fun underground things. The public transport system is phenomenal.

[clubtokyo]

I like this! Love the curves!

[KevinFromTexas]

It would have to depend on where those 300 footers went. The streets at Mueller are still considerably wide. The widths of most of the streets in downtown, and this includes the sidewalk width since the correct term is "right-of-way" which includes both the street pavement and sidewalks - is 80 feet. Only Congress Avenue is wider at 120 feet. Most of the streets at Mueller appear to be 50 feet. Those include the townhome and single family sections. Some of the single family streets are even quite a bit less - 16 feet, which makes me wonder how the 10 foot wide firetrucks get down those streets. Even my street is 30 feet wide in South Austin. Some of the other streets in Mueller where the bigger buildings are and near the retail are 80 to 100 feet wide. That's where I would expect taller buildings could go.