[Halifax] Nova Centre | 65-58-58 m | 16-15-14 fl | Completed

[Drybrain]

Originally Posted by halifaxboyns

People are going to complain no matter what.
So at this point it doesn't matter whether you do something or not...

Personally; I'd rather have a narrow street with something decorative that attempts to do something rather than nothing. Parking in this area is shot anyway...until construction is over. Short term pain for long term gain.

Deliveries to the local business can still be accommodated. I know that was an important issue to address. As far as through-traffic being reduced, it's Argyle Street—it's for bar-hopping and people-watching, not getting from A to B. It should probably become a more fully shared street anyway, with equal priority to cars, pedestrians, etc.

[fenwick16]

Ziobrop has some great interior shots on his tumblr page - http://novacenter.builthalifax.ca/ - showing the first tub girder that has been installed.

In this picture by Ziobrop - http://31.media.tumblr.com/887c4c2b1cdcc14e022c54ee6758fcb2/tumblr_ndjnv0IYpR1sjmgsso1_1280.jpg - is shown what appears to be bearing plates similar to bridge bearing plates - http://civildigital.com/types-functions-bearings-bridges/. Here is another view before the girder was hoisted in place - http://novacenter.builthalifax.ca/post/100000276713; in this picture it appears to be resting on 4" x 4" wooden posts, which gives a good idea of the size.

I am very interested in knowing how they plan to support the Ballroom floor, which is two stories above the tub girders (supporting the ceiling of the Exhibit Hall).

[gm_scott]

Does anyone have a link to the floor plans? I've looked through the thread a little and there are just so many pages.

[Ziobrop]

Originally Posted by fenwick16

Ziobrop has some great interior shots on his tumblr page - http://novacenter.builthalifax.ca/ - showing the first tub girder that has been installed.

In this picture by Ziobrop - http://31.media.tumblr.com/887c4c2b1cdcc14e022c54ee6758fcb2/tumblr_ndjnv0IYpR1sjmgsso1_1280.jpg - is shown what appears to be bearing plates similar to bridge bearing plates - http://civildigital.com/types-functions-bearings-bridges/. Here is another view before the girder was hoisted in place - http://novacenter.builthalifax.ca/post/100000276713; in this picture it appears to be resting on 4" x 4" wooden posts, which gives a good idea of the size.

I am very interested in knowing how they plan to support the Ballroom floor, which is two stories above the tub girders (supporting the ceiling of the Exhibit Hall).

These tub girders will hold up the grafton level slab. There will be columns to hold up the market level slab and the ballroom. I'm not positive how the ballroom floor will span Grafton but will see if I can get an answer

[fenwick16]

Originally Posted by gm_scott

Does anyone have a link to the floor plans? I've looked through the thread a little and there are just so many pages.

Here are the floor plans for the rentable space - http://www.halifaxconventioncentre.com/images/uploads/HCC_Floor-Plans.pdf - but it doesn't include service areas such as kitchen, loading areas, administration and public lobbies.

[fenwick16]

Originally Posted by Ziobrop

These tub girders will hold up the grafton level slab. There will be columns to hold up the market level slab and the ballroom. I'm not positive how the ballroom floor will span Grafton but will see if I can get an answer

In particular, I am wondering if the tub girders can support the two levels above Grafton Street and Ballroom or if the steel columns between the levels will act as stiffeners for the tub girders, almost like trusses on a bridge - http://courses.washington.edu/engr100/All_Sections/Bridge/HTML%20Handouts/01_hnd_BridgeIntro.htm? It will be very interesting to watch your tumblr blog and see if the tub girders alone can support that much weight.

[Ziobrop]

Originally Posted by gm_scott

Does anyone have a link to the floor plans? I've looked through the thread a little and there are just so many pages.

Here are the plans that were submitted for DA Approval. they are probably still on the HRM website somewhere, but i saved a copy and posted them.

http://halifaxbloggers.ca/builthalifax/w...9322AttachmentASitePlanApprovalPlans.pdf

[Ziobrop]

Originally Posted by fenwick16

In particular, I am wondering if the tub girders can support the two levels above Grafton Street and Ballroom or if the steel columns between the levels will act as stiffeners for the tub girders, almost like trusses on a bridge - http://courses.washington.edu/engr100/All_Sections/Bridge/HTML%20Handouts/01_hnd_BridgeIntro.htm? It will be very interesting to watch your tumblr blog and see if the tub girders alone can support that much weight.

The tub girders were engineered to be self sufficient and carry all the load above. The girders and slab are basically the same as a highway overpass, except in this case they will carry more building, instead of cars and trucks.

My understanding is that they looked into various truss options, but they would have been too big, or there was too much movement and vibration

[gm_scott]

Originally Posted by Ziobrop

Here are the plans that were submitted for DA Approval. they are probably still on the HRM website somewhere, but i saved a copy and posted them.

http://halifaxbloggers.ca/builthalifax/w...9322AttachmentASitePlanApprovalPlans.pdf

Thank you. Exactly what I was looking for.

[teddifax]

Stil no rumours on the hotel.....

[fenwick16]

I hoped that there would be another tub girder at the construction site, but so far there isn't - http://www.novascotiawebcams.com/en/webcams/nova-centre/ (11;30 am Atlantic time). Maybe Ziobrop knows what day the next one will be delivered?

[Ziobrop]

Originally Posted by fenwick16

I hoped that there would be another tub girder at the construction site, but so far there isn't - http://www.novascotiawebcams.com/en/webcams/nova-centre/ (11;30 am Atlantic time). Maybe Ziobrop knows what day the next one will be delivered?

I don't .. I'd guess Monday. I think they are finished with the first. The next one will be assembled on the rack then rolled to the far side..

[fenwick16]

Originally Posted by Ziobrop

I don't .. I'd guess Monday. I think they are finished with the first. The next one will be assembled on the rack then rolled to the far side..

I just noticed a couple of pictures on your tumblr blog - http://novacenter.builthalifax.ca/ - that show temporary beams that the large tub girders will be rolled along.

http://novacenter.builthalifax.ca/post/98812852788/temp-beams-to-roll-trusses
http://novacenter.builthalifax.ca/post/98801599618

and I assume on the opposite side the girders will be rolled along the ledge that they will be fastened to:

http://novacenter.builthalifax.ca/post/98231975053
http://novacenter.builthalifax.ca/post/100164642733

Thanks again Ziobrop for all the interesting construction pictures. Hopefully there will be a way to preserve some or all of these digital pictures for future generations of construction enthusiasts.

[Colin May]

Originally Posted by fenwick16

I just noticed a couple of pictures on your tumblr blog - http://novacenter.builthalifax.ca/ - that show temporary beams that the large tub girders will be rolled along.

http://novacenter.builthalifax.ca/post/98812852788/temp-beams-to-roll-trusses
http://novacenter.builthalifax.ca/post/98801599618

and I assume on the opposite side the girders will be rolled along the ledge that they will be fastened to:

http://novacenter.builthalifax.ca/post/98231975053
http://novacenter.builthalifax.ca/post/100164642733

Thanks again Ziobrop for all the interesting construction pictures. Hopefully there will be a way to preserve some or all of these digital pictures for future generations of construction enthusiasts.

Donate the photos to Heritage Trust and get a tax receipt.
Or NS Archives.

[musicman]

Donate them to Heritage Trust... LOL It is kinda ironic that at some point in the distant future they may be fighting the same fight to "preserve the Nova Center"...

[OldDartmouthMark]

Originally Posted by musicman

Donate them to Heritage Trust... LOL It is kinda ironic that at some point in the distant future they may be fighting the same fight to "preserve the Nova Center"...

To further the irony, some members of this very forum who currently deride the HT will probably be joining in the fight...

[fenwick16]

Originally Posted by Ziobrop

I don't .. I'd guess Monday. I think they are finished with the first. The next one will be assembled on the rack then rolled to the far side..

Good guess. I saw that there were a couple of sections of the next tub girder on site today - http://www.novascotiawebcams.com/en/webcams/nova-centre/ .

[Duff]

Some photos I took today.

[mcmcclassic]

Great pics Duff. I can't help but notice how dumb that "art barrier" is... Did the people who installed it think about what will happen when the building is 1-2 floors taller than it?

[fenwick16]

Originally Posted by Duff

Some photos I took today.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3947/15593051142_1d9c6a3f58_h.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5610/15592213155_4c09d9d9af_h.jpg

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3949/15405588039_8cd3e6d3a6_h.jpg

Great looking pictures. The first picture shows so much detail. You got a good perspective of the TD Bank tower expansion also.