Burnaby Updates

[rickvug]

Originally Posted by a16107

Does anyone think Edmonds street or Kingsway/Edmonds will develop in the future?

Yes, absolutely: https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/edmo...rental-project. Now only waiting for the Rona site before all corners have been redeveloped. There is plenty of other development in the area such as Southgate City and some development along Kingsway such as the Honda dealership. Edmonds street from Kingsway to 6th Street has a lot less going on, presumably due to lower development potential as one gets further from Skytrain. Overall an interesting area to watch given how different it is to Burnaby's other 3 Town Centres.

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by rickvug

Yes, absolutely: https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/edmo...rental-project. Now only waiting for the Rona site before all corners have been redeveloped. There is plenty of other development in the area such as Southgate City and some development along Kingsway such as the Honda dealership. Edmonds street from Kingsway to 6th Street has a lot less going on, presumably due to lower development potential as one gets further from Skytrain. Overall an interesting area to watch given how different it is to Burnaby's other 3 Town Centres.

I'm glad you mentioned that - Edmonds and Kingsway is being redeveloped. Edmonds on the other hand is mostly zoned for medium density outside of that intersection. You can see it on the Land Use Map (small pdf). I wish they would be a little more bold, seeing as it's supposed to be a town centre - instead it's zoned more like Royal Oak urban village.

[Alex Mackinnon]

Originally Posted by Sheba

The same thing happened in New West years ago... Still this is the Burnaby thread.

One of my neighbours *hates* the Byrne Park development due to the loss of trees - but she just grumbles about it instead of suing and / or complaining to the press. I've reassured her that most of the area is dedicated park land so it's not all going to be bulldozed.

That's funny, as I kid I complained about the loss of the sandpit down there. It was way more fun before all the condos were built. The scrubby trees just sort of happened after the fact.

The other part of that area is a former dump site.

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by Alex Mackinnon

That's funny, as I kid I complained about the loss of the sandpit down there. It was way more fun before all the condos were built. The scrubby trees just sort of happened after the fact.

The other part of that area is a former dump site.

Do you know what area(s) were a dump? I know City In The Park (aka the towers just south of Edmonds Station) is where (I think it was called) Dominion Glass used to be. Where Taylor Park school / park are was a dump and there's a small building that deals with releasing gas and I don't know what else from that.

On the other side is Byrne Creek Ravine Park and that was set aside as official park land years ago. Fun note: where I first moved here I sneezed a lot the first year as I wasn't used to living practically next door to so many trees, and then I got used to it and that went away. Seeing as I've been indoors soo much during the pandemic I lost that and have been sneezing and having quite the time with allergies this year. Oh joy...

[Alex Mackinnon]

I think everything east of Southpoint is the dump. I can't remember if anything was in the woods to the west. I was only about 10 when it shut down.

Global Air Photos probably has it if you want to dig around.

[Lexus]

2022, June 2
Alaska St

Untitled by Lexus LX570, on Flickr

[jollyburger]

"The residential areas that are located within the Stride Hill Neighbourhood were primarily developed in the 1950s during Burnaby's post-war building boom. The area lying to the south of Byrne Creek Ravine Park was used as a municipal garbage dump until the 1960s and as a landfill site for yard waste disposal until the early 1990s at which point the area was incorporated into the Edmonds Town Centre Plan and the land was made into park and open space."

Stride Gravel Pit was located on the site of what is now the GREEN housing development on Southpoint Drive.



https://www.theblog.ca/wp-content/up...ark/index.html

Detailed report on Stride Avenue and other landfills This one has maps as well (around page 150) I think that Edmond Town Center gravel pit is different from the ones on the North side of the BC Hydro right of way?

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/en..._landfills.pdf

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by Alex Mackinnon

I think everything east of Southpoint is the dump. I can't remember if anything was in the woods to the west. I was only about 10 when it shut down.

Global Air Photos probably has it if you want to dig around.

The oldest Global Air has of Edmonds is from 1991 (and grr they changed their links yet again - I'd saved a bunch of the area).

Originally Posted by jollyburger

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https://www.theblog.ca/wp-content/up...ark/index.html

Detailed report on Stride Avenue and other landfills This one has maps as well (around page 150) I think that Edmond Town Center gravel pit is different from the ones on the North side of the BC Hydro right of way?

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/en..._landfills.pdf

Very useful - once I managed to get my bearings (almost all the streets are different now). Thanks!

[jollyburger]

In comparison Senakw 10.5 acres/4,000,000 square feet

Burnaby approves 40-acre Willingdon Lands project
Burnaby city council approved the redevelopment of the Willingdon Lands May 31, paving the way for the largest First Nation-led real estate project in the city.

The land, located at 3405 Willingdon Avenue. is owned by the Musqueam Indian Band and Tsleil-Waututh Nation, who will develop the property with Aquilini Development Group.

The 40-acre parcel is envisioned as a “contemporary Musqueam and Tsleil-Waututh urban village” according to a presentation to Burnaby council in December 2021.

“The master plan went to public hearing last night and passed with no revisions,” Chris Bryan, manager of public affairs, City of Burnaby, told Western Investor on June 1.

The site is within the overlapping traditional territories of the two First Nations, which partnered together to buy the land from the province in March 2014 for $57.9 million.

Located between Brentwood Town Centre and Metrotown, and across from the BC Institute of Technology, the site will accommodate more than 5,200 residential units, including 20 per cent rental and 300-plus non-market units.

Almost four million square feet of residential land is planned.

A further of breakdown of the proposed residential land use includes: 3.3 million square feet of leasehold strata (condominiums and townhomes); 385,000 square feet of market rental; 70,000 square feet of moderate rental and 151,000 square feet of affordable rentals.

The area is tapped in planning documents to become a rapid transit hub in the future.

To accommodate the incoming growth, city planners envision 17 mixed-use buildings in the range of 14 to 20 storeys, four “landmark buildings” between 22 and 25 storeys, and a series of other low-to-midrise, mixed-use buildings.

A 450,000-square-foot film studio will serve as the commercial anchor of the redevelopment and is estimated to create more than 3,000 jobs.

The May 31 approval is to “establish a conceptual master plan and design guidelines for the Willingdon Lands to guide further site-specific rezoning applications for the construction of a multi-phased residential, commercial, film studio, and office development over four main phases,” according to the City of Burnaby.

The Musqueam and Tsleil-Waututh Nations, along with the Squamish Nation, have become a real estate powerhouse in Metro Vancouver, now controlling an estimated $5 billion in land and property.

https://biv.com/article/2022/06/burn...-lands-project

[hollywoodnorth]

one thing I find odd and maybe someone can provide some more context but Burnaby has been really good about rezoning (upzoning) around transit and creating their area plans especially the Urban village plans >> https://www.burnaby.ca/our-city/stra...ommunity-plans

that said I see a major fumble right now with the Lyndhurst area (the neighbourhood around Lyndhurst elementary school). which is the same distance away from Skytrain that on the Coquitlam side of North Road.

also Coquitlam has created the Oakdale plan again similar distance to Skytrain which is a high density plan.

So I wonder what the hold up is here? take a look at North Road and Foster .... on the Coquitlam side ..... a forest of towers already up with more going up and on the Buraby side ..... SFH. and again both the same distance to Skytrain .......

[officedweller]

Good point.
That area looks like a logical extension of the Lougheed Town Centre area.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by hollywoodnorth

one thing I find odd and maybe someone can provide some more context but Burnaby has been really good about rezoning (upzoning) around transit and creating their area plans especially the Urban village plans >> https://www.burnaby.ca/our-city/stra...ommunity-plans

that said I see a major fumble right now with the Lyndhurst area (the neighbourhood around Lyndhurst elementary school). which is the same distance away from Skytrain that on the Coquitlam side of North Road.

also Coquitlam has created the Oakdale plan again similar distance to Skytrain which is a high density plan.

So I wonder what the hold up is here? take a look at North Road and Foster .... on the Coquitlam side ..... a forest of towers already up with more going up and on the Buraby side ..... SFH. and again both the same distance to Skytrain .......

Well they probably have enough areas with development potential they can cater to the SFH crowd there and kick it down the road.

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Good point.
That area looks like a logical extension of the Lougheed Town Centre area.

It is part of the Lougheed Town Centre plan (with the mall area being the core) - and they've marked it as SFH. If you look at the various documents it's all about the core and then when there's any mention of elsewhere it's the area with towers just to the west of the core and Lougheed Hwy.

Originally Posted by jollyburger

Well they probably have enough areas with development potential they can cater to the SFH crowd there and kick it down the road.

Probably... but it doesn't hurt to remind them that Burquitlam Station is so near and it's worth upzoning from SFH to "Low or Medium Multiple Family Residential" - which they have plenty of nearby.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Sheba

Probably... but it doesn't hurt to remind them that Burquitlam Station is so near and it's worth upzoning from SFH to "Low or Medium Multiple Family Residential" - which they have plenty of nearby.

This document mentions the Sullivan Heights Single Family Review area which seemed to mention changing it to R10 Residential from R2 ("This District provides for low-scale development in mature single family areas with a consistent lowscale character.")

http://urbanshift.ca/wp-content/uplo...ed-TC-Plan.pdf

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

This document mentions the Sullivan Heights Single Family Review area which seemed to mention changing it to R10 Residential from R2 ("This District provides for low-scale development in mature single family areas with a consistent lowscale character.")

http://urbanshift.ca/wp-content/uplo...ed-TC-Plan.pdf

I've found reminding various entities tends to speed up things getting done (aka some might be a little sick of me and it'd be useful if other people stepped up sometimes).

[SpongeG]

I remember hearing years ago that Burnaby had no plans to redevelop their side of North Road. They wanted to concentrate any redevelopment to the Lougheed Town Centre plan. It will be weird with SFH's along the Burnaby side and towers along the Coquitlam side.

I do wonder if they will change some of the three-storey buildings between Austin and North Road along that stretch of the Lougheed Highway.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by Sheba

It is part of the Lougheed Town Centre plan (with the mall area being the core) - and they've marked it as SFH. If you look at the various documents it's all about the core and then when there's any mention of elsewhere it's the area with towers just to the west of the core and Lougheed Hwy.

Thanks.

Maybe a Burnaby response to losing an LRT station at Cameron St. with the switch to SkyTrain
- although that plan doesn't even show the Evergreen Line (despite being updated in 2018).

[urbancanadian]

I was curious how the Pinnacle Lougheed towers would rank if the tallest tower actually turns out to be 259m.

Pretty impressive for the west coast of North America:

1. Wilshire Grand -- Los Angeles -- 335m
2. Salesforce Tower -- San Francisco -- 326m
3. US Bank Tower -- Los Angeles -- 310m
4. Columbia Center -- Seattle -- 286m
5. Aon Center -- Los Angeles -- 262m
6. Transamerica Pyramid -- San Francisco -- 260m
7. Pinnacle Lougheed -- Burnaby -- 259m
8. Rainier Square Tower -- Seattle -- 258m
9. 181 Fremont -- San Francisco -- 244m

Heights from Wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...strom%20Tower.

Just a thought I'd put out there. And Pinnacle Lougheed still probably does well in western North America as a whole. Even if the tower doesn't end up that tall, I have no doubt there will be some even taller proposals in the coming years...

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by urbancanadian

I was curious how the Pinnacle Lougheed towers would rank if the tallest tower actually turns out to be 259m.

Pretty impressive for the west coast of North America:

1. Wilshire Grand -- Los Angeles -- 335m
2. Salesforce Tower -- San Francisco -- 326m
3. US Bank Tower -- Los Angeles -- 310m
4. Columbia Center -- Seattle -- 286m
5. Aon Center -- Los Angeles -- 262m
6. Transamerica Pyramid -- San Francisco -- 260m
7. Pinnacle Lougheed -- Burnaby -- 259m
8. Rainier Square Tower -- Seattle -- 258m
9. 181 Fremont -- San Francisco -- 244m

Heights from Wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...strom%20Tower.

Just a thought I'd put out there. And Pinnacle Lougheed still probably does well in western North America as a whole. Even if the tower doesn't end up that tall, I have no doubt there will be some even taller proposals in the coming years...

And considering it's residential as well. I think 80 will be around the max for a while except for that supertall downtown that we all dream about

[Lexus]

2022, June 9
On Bennett 5000 block.

Untitled by Lexus LX570, on Flickr

Untitled by Lexus LX570, on Flickr

Untitled by Lexus LX570, on Flickr