noirish Los Angeles

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

And then there's Sean Flynn, Errol Flynn's son with French actress Lili Damita.And a few years later with his father.




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Yes, ER....what a tragic story, very upsetting. I had heard that before but it was like hearing about it for the first time today.

Sean Flynn April 6, 1970 (aged 28); Highway One, Cambodia

[tovangar2]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Here's one example dated June 4, 1953:



t2, this view appears to have been taken fairly close to the 'mystery' location.

I'm almost certain the two men are standing on the soon-to-be Harbor Freeway.

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Yes, they are, just a bit closer to our group of buildings. They're on the "active" side of the tarp which closed off the construction site in the other photo.

Thx for the link. These must be the pretty homes that were left on Florida and Lincoln. They ran between Bixel and Francisco, parallel to, and between, 8th & 9th.
See the big Canary Island palm, off the carriage way, between the two streets? It appears in the photo above too (a year or so earlier):

wired

Florida and Lincoln obliterated. Someone should tell google maps (see below) as they're still offering up a Florida Street address.
This bit of real estate is now under construction:

google maps

The only thing left in the historic shots above, which I can positively identify, is Barker Bros (and the freeway):

gsv

[tovangar2]

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

I understand there's a new ''lady in black". Is that you T2?

Absolutely not. I may be a PIB, but not that one.

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by tovangar2

absolutely not. I may be a pib, but not that one.

You are so sweet....

[riichkay]

reddit

Actress Veronica Lake with her hair twisted in a drill press, demonstrating potential dangers to women in factories during WWII, November 9, 1943.

[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I know that we've seen numerous 'atomic blast' photographs on NLA, but I'm pretty sure we haven't seen this one.

Here's the rather vague description.

"An uncredited, undated photo of an 'atomic dawn' taken from an unknown location."


amusingplanet.com

I'm pretty sure that's the tower of the Richfield Building.

So where the heck was the photographer standing? It looks like an empty lot with overgrowth, dirt mounds and some litter. (not unlike a body dump)

Originally Posted by tovangar2

Does anyone have an opinion about exactly where e_r's photo was taken? We're on land cleared for the Harbor, looking NE. I'd be interested to know the
location of the foreground buildings on the right. I'm guessing Byram and W 11th (now LA Live Way & Chick Hearn CT), but I'm not sure.

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Thx (I'll never get this straight)

Here's a (large) 1952 aerial view. I've marked some of the key buidings, and labeled the streets with their current names.

The star marks where I think the photographer was standing. It's pretty close to t2's guess.


Historic Aerials

[HossC]

Originally Posted by tovangar2

Florida and Lincoln obliterated. Someone should tell google maps (see below).
This bit of real estate is now under construction:

google maps

The aerial views always seem to lag behind, and the delay appears to have increased since Google forced the "Earth" view upon us. The overhead view at supercharge.info, which uses the old-style Google Maps, shows construction under way, although the parking lot reappears in the 45-degree views. At least the Googlemobile's views are more recent. This one was taken from the freeway in February 2017.


GSV

[tovangar2]

Thx HossC. My OCD is satisfied (even if LA Live Way isn't marked :-)

Fascinating how the scale continues to change. Barker Bros, which once looked so huge next to Abigail Stark's home, is now lost in the towers


...and re that new development at 8th & Francisco. It's called Metropolis and will have, what look to be, a dozen Canary Island palms, just for old times sake:

metropolisgallery

Developed by China's The Greenland Group and designed by Gensler, Metropolis is certainly better than the dreck Geoffery Palmer puts up.

[Martin Pal]

Originally Posted by BifRayRock

Veronica

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/...re-id481634117

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I've never seen this one before! Of the later photos of Veronica Lake, I really like this one. Of course, I'd like it better without the Getty mark.
The link says: "Taken in her New York City apartment, 1967."

[Martin Pal]

Originally Posted by Jungmann

The distant crossing street in the '50s pix is Marathon (I was born on it a few blocks east, beyond Vermont) and the restaurant is Oblaths. You can see the blade sign in the picture below. Pretty much the unofficial Paramount commissary from the 40s through the 60's which is when I worked at the studio. I think it went away in the 70's. Pretty decent Mexican food for an anglo operation

Here's Army Archerd reminiscing about the Paramount gate and things around it:

I can well remember going through the historic Paramount gates off Marathon Street for the first time to start working in that pair of small rooms where we’d sort mail to then deliver to the stars who had their permanent dressing rooms on the lot. Often, there were hundreds of extras waiting outside the gate for a possible call to work that day. A casting window handled the calls as well as the jobs for day players. You could often see male stars in the studio’s barber shop or at the bootblack’s stand … The men’s wardrobe department was alongside the mailroom, and it seemed like entire armies could have been uniformed there. And above, the famed women’s wardrobe department, headed by the incomparable Edith Head. Across the street, on the south side of Marathon, was the famed Oblath’s restaurant where those who took a break from the commissary could be waited upon by ladies who looked like they stepped out of a sitcom — only there weren’t any sitcoms then



LA Daily News negative
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Jungmann, did you mean you worked at Paramount from "the 40's through the 60's," or just the 1960's?

I like that photo you posted, I don't think that's been posted before! Over the door there's a sign that says "Mixed" something... Do you recall what that word is?

In my post, I (and E_R), were actually trying to find out what the restaurant (next to Geller's) was on the corner on the right side of this photograph:


ebay

Do you remember what that was?

I do see the blade sign (CAFE) of Oblath's in the distance at Marathon on the left side of the photo.

Thanks!

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

Jungmann, did you mean you worked at Paramount from "the 40's through the 60's," or just the 1960's?

I like that photo you posted, I don't think that's been posted before! Over the door there's a sign that says "Mixed" something... Do you recall what that word is?

In my post, I (and E_R), were actually trying to find out what the restaurant (next to Geller's) was on the corner on the right side of this photograph:


ebay

Do you remember what that was?

I do see the blade sign (CAFE) of Oblath's in the distance at Marathon on the left side of the photo.

Thanks!

Wasn't the Nickodell near that location?


oldlarestaurants

[Beaudry]

Here's an image new to NLA; it came with a collection of negatives I just picked up and I don't think many if any have come out of their sleeves since they were shot and put in a drawer 40-60 years ago.

I dig it because YOU are a Capitalist! and we're looking across Fifth up Fig toward the Streicher/Striker, which we saw semi-recently (here, and here and here)



So Mr Spectator-Shoe is walking about here:




Just this side of the Architects' Bldg, next to the Bur-Mar Hotel parking lot. Here's the faded sign:



Some of the Bur-Mar—

pc at hunt

pc at hunt

also

[/url]Figueroa rhapsody, 1951 by Michael Ryerson, on Flickr

What really got me was this restaurant/cocktail lounge at 458 S Fig—



There's nothing in the 1956 or '60 street address directories for 458, so I don't know what it was called. (It was known as Park's Coffee Shop in 1936, according to an article in the Times—also, it had its liquor license noirishly suspended in 1954.)

But check out the art deco detailing! So I looked it up in the DBS and it was built in 1928, its architect none other than Gordon B Kaufman! It of course is demolished in 1964. However, in 1924, the original structure sitting at 458 S Fig was moved to 649 N Occidental, where it remains to this day! A Bunker Hill survivor!

[tovangar2]

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

In my post, I (and E_R), were actually trying to find out what the restaurant (next to Geller's) was on the corner on the right side of this photograph:


ebay

Do you remember what that was?

"The Playboy" is what you're looking for:

playboybar

It closed in '98.

This memory is from the "Comments" section at CBD's Nickodell's link:

oldlarestaurants

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by HossC

Here's a (large) 1952 aerial view. I've marked some of the key buidings, and labeled the streets with their current names.

The star marks where I think the photographer was standing. It's pretty close to t2's guess.


Historic Aerials

This is fantastic Hoss! I knew you'd come through & help us out.


As a reminder, here's how the photograph was labeled when I first came across it at http://www.amusingplanet.com/2016/09...-from-los.html



So I think ya'll did a fantastic job in the locating the spot.

Job well done t2.
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[ethereal_reality]

Oh, and here's another atomic photo I don't believe we have seen on NLA.

'mystery' location, Los Angeles


old file/ originally found at http://thisisnthappiness.com/

So where in the heck is this guy standing?
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[Jungmann]

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

Jungmann, did you mean you worked at Paramount from "the 40's through the 60's," or just the 1960's?

I like that photo you posted, I don't think that's been posted before! Over the door there's a sign that says "Mixed" something... Do you recall what that word is?

In my post, I (and E_R), were actually trying to find out what the restaurant (next to Geller's) was on the corner on the right side of this photograph:


ebay

Do you remember what that was?

I do see the blade sign (CAFE) of Oblath's in the distance at Marathon on the left side of the photo.

Thanks!

Martin Pal--poor syntax. I worked at Paramount for half a year in the late 60s'.

CityBoyDoug--yes, the Nicodell was about a block west on Melrose. Lots of MGTDs in those days. I had a TC myself, known as a coffin on four harps, thanks to the squarish body and big 19 inch wire wheels. A popular phrase in the movie and advertising business at the time was "Dress British, think Yiddish."

Oblath's was useful for lunch-time shop talk between Paramount employees who were saying things they didn't want the studio execs to overhear, which might happen at the commissary on the lot. Especially useful during the HUAC Red Scare years 1948-1955,

[tovangar2]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

'mystery' location, Los Angeles


So where in the heck is this guy standing?
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This can't be right, can it?:

coldwarla

(I think they're confusing it w/ the Exposition Park armory)

...and:

bokus

[ethereal_reality]

You're right t2, the building in the photograph doesn't look anything like the Exposition Park Armory.
And the town in the background looks rather small (yet large enough for an armory?).
In the midwest the towns that have armories are the county seats. -maybe this isn't Los Angeles County?
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I certainly didn't know the photograph was on a cover of a James Ellroy book.

[HossC]

Photobucket has been working for about a week now, so I suppose it was time for it to fail again! I uploaded these images yesterday, but now they refuse to show at full size, and I can't even delete them in order to re-upload them. If Photobucket get their act together, I'll restore them to their original size. In the meantime, I don't know whether I'll be able to upload images over the weekend.

ETA. The photo size is fixed, but I'm leaving the paragraph above to remind everyone how unreliable Photobucket can be!

The location of this Julius Shulman is listed as unknown, but I took a chance on it being in Los Angeles. It's "Job 5074: Maurice Fleishman, County Mechanical Services Department, 1973".



Getty Research Institute

Luckily, the building is in Los Angeles, and is now the Internal Services Department at 1100 N Eastern Avenue. The front of the building seen in the Shulman image (above) faces a private parking lot, so I had to take the "now" shot from Sheriff Road.


GSV

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by Jungmann

Oblath's was useful for lunch-time shop talk between Paramount employees who were saying things they didn't want the studio execs to overhear,
which might happen at the commissary on the lot.

I read somewhere that Olbath's served beverages in copper mugs, but I believe that was back in the 1930s or 40s.

Do you happen to remember what the interior of Oblath's was like in the 1960s Jungmann? Was it rustic?
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