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[Crisis]

Moose Jaw is a bit of a climatic oddball. Even compared to nearby Regina, Moose Jaw is noticeably warmer. Regina & Winnipeg have pretty similar climates.

Long term averages (1981 - 2010) from Environment Canada shows the following:

Moose Jaw__ Daily Average of 4.2___ Daily Maximum of 10.4__Daily Minimum of -1.9

Regina______ Daily Average of 3.1___ Daily Maximum of 9.3__Daily Minimum of -3.2

Winnipeg___ Daily Average of 3.0___ Daily Maximum of 8.7__Daily Minimum of -2.7


http://climate.weather.gc.ca/climate...967&dispBack=1

http://climate.weather.gc.ca/climate...002&dispBack=0

http://climate.weather.gc.ca/climate...698&dispBack=1

[Riverman]

Also Moose Jaw has a lot of sunshine which is why the RCAF training base is located there.

[Pinus]

Originally Posted by Bluenote

That fat turd should move to Moose Jaw then and plaster his shitty name on their building and remove them from ours.

The fat turd did move there he just bought a house and everything. They can have him.

And I too am for removing all traces of him from our city. He's done nothing to contribute towards making Winnipeg a better place. And we as a city have been stupid enough to place him on some sort of pedestal and worship him like he's actually worth something.

I really can't stand the guy.

[esquire]

^ Winnipeg's relationship with Burt has never been the same since that time he got bottled at Sev... which in many ways was the most Winnipeg incident ever.

Hard to deny that he's a great talent, though. I mean, say what you want about him but he's an excellent singer.

[BKB]

Originally Posted by esquire

^ Winnipeg's relationship with Burt has never been the same since that time he got bottled at Sev... which in many ways was the most Winnipeg incident ever.

Hard to deny that he's a great talent, though. I mean, say what you want about him but he's an excellent singer.

Mac's not Sev. There are three Mac's in Moose Jaw, is Burton sure of this decision?

[cheswick]

Originally Posted by BKB

Mac's not Sev. There are three Mac's in Moose Jaw, is Burton sure of this decision?

No, it was a sev. The incident was immortalized in the short film "Fahrenheit 7-Eleven".


And yeah, Burton Cummings is a blow hard. I was disappointed True North decided to keep the Burton Cummings name on the Walker theatre.

[BKB]

Originally Posted by cheswick

No, it was a sev. The incident was immortalized in the short film "Fahrenheit 7-Eleven".


And yeah, Burton Cummings is a blow hard. I was disappointed True North decided to keep the Burton Cummings name on the Walker theatre.

I am pretty sure that it was the Mac's on Cumberland.

[esquire]

^ It was the 7-Eleven at Bannerman and Main, according to the March 19, 1985 edition of the Winnipeg Free Press.

[Stormer]

Originally Posted by Crisis

Moose Jaw is a bit of a climatic oddball. Even compared to nearby Regina, Moose Jaw is noticeably warmer. Regina & Winnipeg have pretty similar climates.

Long term averages (1981 - 2010) from Environment Canada shows the following:

Moose Jaw__ Daily Average of 4.2___ Daily Maximum of 10.4__Daily Minimum of -1.9

Regina______ Daily Average of 3.1___ Daily Maximum of 9.3__Daily Minimum of -3.2

Winnipeg___ Daily Average of 3.0___ Daily Maximum of 8.7__Daily Minimum of -2.7


http://climate.weather.gc.ca/climate...967&dispBack=1

http://climate.weather.gc.ca/climate...002&dispBack=0

http://climate.weather.gc.ca/climate...698&dispBack=1

Moose Jaw is often 5-10C warmer than Regina in winter. It is really bizarre given that there is just 40 miles of flat prairie between them.

[esquire]

^ I guess when the intense heat of Maple Creek is too much for someone to bear, Moose Jaw is a reasonable compromise.

[HomeInMyShoes]

Originally Posted by Stormer

Moose Jaw is often 5-10C warmer than Regina in winter. It is really bizarre given that there is just 40 miles of flat prairie between them.

It really is a function of the hillier landscape. Moose Jaw lies in a bit of a valley which concentrates the sun a sunny day is usually a bit warmer. In Spring this means the melt happens quicker and with less snow in the area sooner it warms up a lot faster.

[Curmudgeon]

[QUOTE=Crisis;8411118]Moose Jaw is a bit of a climatic oddball. Even compared to nearby Regina, Moose Jaw is noticeably warmer. Regina & Winnipeg have pretty similar climates.

Long term averages (1981 - 2010) from Environment Canada shows the following:

Moose Jaw__ Daily Average of 4.2___ Daily Maximum of 10.4__Daily Minimum of -1.9

Regina______ Daily Average of 3.1___ Daily Maximum of 9.3__Daily Minimum of -3.2

Winnipeg___ Daily Average of 3.0___ Daily Maximum of 8.7__Daily Minimum of -2.7


Due to its location at the bottom of a valley, Winnipeg is one of the colder locations in southern Manitoba.

Just a little over an hour's drive away is Morden, Manitoba.
Daily Average of 4.0, Daily Maximum of 9.1, Daily Minimum of -1.2.

Also, Winnipeg-The Forks, Daily Average of 4.5, Daily Maximum 9.1, Daily Minimum -0.2.

I would expect that Melita and McCreary are also warmer than Winnipeg. McCreary has just had eight consecutive days above freezing, getting up to 7.2 on Friday and 9.1 on Saturday.

Winnipeg's slighter lower mean temps compared with Regina and Moose Jaw reflects that Winnipeg has a higher annual average snowfall which means early spring temperatures remain slightly colder and when there are zonal flows of mild Pacific air during the winter months, they often do not affect Winnipeg to quite the same degree as Winnipeg is that much farther to the east. Winnipeg has higher average temperatures from May through October though, which after all are the months that really count, as well as a slightly longer growing season. Alberta and Saskatchewan don't experience those sultry summer nights to the same degree as southern Manitoba. There is nothing like sitting outside late at night in the summer and being perfectly comfortable in shorts and a T.

Whatever the climate stats though, whenever you are fortunate (??) enough to bump into Winnipeggers on a winter holiday, you will overhear them half in the bag at the bar telling the locals and the American tourists that in Winnipeg it's forty below for six months of the year.

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by HomeInMyShoes

It really is a function of the hillier landscape. Moose Jaw lies in a bit of a valley which concentrates the sun a sunny day is usually a bit warmer. In Spring this means the melt happens quicker and with less snow in the area sooner it warms up a lot faster.

It's a real anomaly, drove to Calgary a couple times in late winter, early spring and the difference in temp. between Regina and Moose Jaw made no sense for such a relatively short distance. For whatever reason Moose Jaw gets the tail end of Chinooks which Regina doesn't, strange.

[VANRIDERFAN]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

It's a real anomaly, drove to Calgary a couple times in late winter, early spring and the difference in temp. between Regina and Moose Jaw made no sense for such a relatively short distance. For whatever reason Moose Jaw gets the tail end of Chinooks which Regina doesn't, strange.

The CP Rail Overpass at Belle Plain seem to be the dividing line for some reason. At times there can be two totally different climates as you go from one side to the other.

[Riverman]

Originally Posted by esquire

Hard to deny that he's a great talent, though. I mean, say what you want about him but he's an excellent singer.

And pianist.

I was at the show the night he played at Joe's Garage preceding the Up Close and Alone tour. One set with MacLean & MacLean and one long set with just Burt and his piano. Small venue, great talent. The most enjoyable show I have been to.

[blueandgoldguy]

When the venue changed its name to the Burton Cummings Theatre wasn't Burt supposed to play there once a year (or more?) for a certain period of time? I'm sure he never fulfilled that obligation.

I always found it curious that Moose Jaw has not experienced any growth in nearly 6 decades (1961-33206; 2011 - 33,274). It happens to lie along the most significant east-west corridor in Western Canada; lies within a reasonable drive of a mid-sized city in Regina and has very affordable housing (probably cheaper than Regina for added incentive). Same thing applies to Swift Current - no growth. Is industry in both these towns so stagnant that there will never be any growth there for the forseeable future?

And speaking of temperature variations between cities...despite being a 3 hour drive north of Winnipeg, Dauphin experiences winter daytime highs nearly 1.5 degrees Celsius higher than Winnipeg (ex. -10 in January in Dauphin vs. -11.5 in Winnipeg). I can only conclude that this is due to Dauphin being sandwiched between two massive mountain ranges!

[bomberjet]

It all has to do with topography. Winnipeg sits on a barren plain at the bottom of a valley. So it's get's a bit colder. I follow weather from the states and the National Weather Service does a good job at explaining these sorts of things. It's clearly visible on their maps that the Red River Valley is usually colder than the surrounding areas. And yes the moraines (giant mountains lol) change the weather. Did you know the moraines are the leftovers shoreline of Lake Agassiz and it's pretty dang cool.

Another area that's interesting is the Sandilands. Drive out there and it's a different climate once you get into the trees. Temps are generally warmer.

[Curmudgeon]

Edmonton is about as far north as Grand Rapids yet the average January mean temperature there is about 4 1/2 degrees warmer than Winnipeg. A cooler May through October period however results in an annual mean of 2.6°, compared with Winnipeg's 3.0°.

[Stormer]

The temperature difference between Regina and MJ is much more noticeable in winter. I am convinced it has something to do with the chinooks that peter out as the sweep down form the Missouri Couteau west of MJ. Unless they are very strong they cannot make it to Regina.

This week's forecast:
W T F
Regina +2 -2 -2
MJ +5 0 +2

[Crisis]

I think it's just because of the warmth in the hearts of all Moose Javians....