ATLANTA | Development Thread V - Page 203

BlueSangha · #**4041** Posted **Jan 9, 2012, 12:49 AM**

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TarHeelJ · #**4042** Posted **Jan 9, 2012, 1:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by BlueSangha

So for you then it is acceptable to have:

a robbery once a week
an aggravated assualt twice a week
a larceny every other day
a auto theft once a week
at a minimum of one crime per day total?

surely these numbers only account for what is reported, not to mention the crap I see everyday. And what criteria are you using to compare this low rate for a metro area to other metro areas?

MARTA has consistently been rated one of the safest transit systems in the U.S. I'm pretty sure it's very simple to compare crime statistics, so your question is a no-brainer, and MARTA has a very low incidence of crime comparared to other systems. Maybe you're buying into the alarmist media coverage of crimes committed "near" MARTA stations that causes so much hysteria among MARTA-haters.

If the crap you see is serious, then it should be reported. I'm not really sure why you aren't reporting it if it's serious, since you're witnessing it. If it isn't serious crap, then what is your point?

As for your question about "acceptable" numbers of incidents...yes, one robbery per week is very acceptable on a transit system in a metro of 5 million plus.

BlueSangha · #**4043** Posted **Jan 9, 2012, 2:54 AM**

mayhem · #**4044** Posted **Jan 9, 2012, 4:43 AM**

Riveting tale regarding Atlanta construction, chum.

Tuckerman · #**4045** Posted **Jan 9, 2012, 12:48 PM**

I have missed the construction part of MARTA crime in this discourse. Move to city discussions please.

TarHeelJ · #**4046** Posted **Jan 9, 2012, 3:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by BlueSangha

I am not buying into anything, I am merely putting my two cents in like everyone is on this nonconstruction conversation)...and stats can be manipulated any way you want them to (perfect example is your 5 million plus stat, not all 5 million people ride. it would be more appropriate to compare sizes of systems and number of crimes per riderships in percentages), so no it's not a nobrainer. why are you getting all pissy anyway? and how do you know I am not reporting anything? one crime per week might be an acceptable number, but I bet if you ask the victim that, they would have a hard time supporting that acceptance level.

Good God...

1. Crime of course is never truly acceptable, but in a realistic sense one instance per week in a large metro IS.

2. You said that the stats don't include all of the crap you see that goes unreported. That's how I know you aren't reporting it - because you said so.

3. The same people don't ride MARTA everyday...that's why I included the metro population figure and not just ridership numbers - it wasn't to manipulate anything. But even just using MARTA ridership figures, the stats are very low.

There is no need to make comments like the ones you made and then act like you didn't.

TarHeelJ · #**4047** Posted **Jan 9, 2012, 3:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by Tuckerman

I have missed the construction part of MARTA crime in this discourse. Move to city discussions please.

Okay...did you have a construction-related comment then?

PremierAtlanta · #**4048** Posted **Jan 9, 2012, 7:55 PM**

Urrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhh!!!!!

Is there not a section about MARTA and other metro transit authorities under the Atlanta section in the Southeast tab? Reading these types of discussions in this section gets very tiresome. The intial author of the MARTA discussion should have placed this in that section so the rest of us aren't overly subjected to people's personal opinions.

Tuckerman · #**4049** Posted **Jan 9, 2012, 9:03 PM**

The main construction comment re Marta "crime" is that I believe unreasonable analyses of the crime stats on public transit systems may lead to people not using the system and ultimately affecting the density of office and residential construction undertaken near transit stops. Perception of crime leads to fear of travel. Most of the large city transit systems I know of or used have been considered safe when connecting high density, built up areas, where people do not drive to work or have a car-dependent job. Getting off at a transit stop that is mostly empty space, parking lots etc is quite alienating. Getting off in a highly built up area gives one a sense of safety. So there is a link between construction and perceived transit crime, but is complicated. Nonetheless, this is more a "cities" type discussion because it deals with why cities are built the way they are, not usually specific construction projects.

micropundit · #**4050** Posted **Jan 10, 2012, 9:45 PM**

Two groups of developers submitted packages Tuesday outlining their qualifications and visions for developing a 104-acre segment of the now-closed Fort McPherson in south Fulton County. One team includes Cousins Properties, The Integral Group and Forest City Enterprises and the other a paring of Atlanta developers Carter and H. J. Russell &

Next week the McPherson Redevelopment Authority will name a committee that will decide which group will develop the first segment of the entire 488-acre tract that was home of the the U.S. Army Forces Command and the headquarters of the Army Reserve Command. The garrison was closed in September.

The plan for the 104 acres includes a Veterans Administration medical clinic that is already in place and a proposed bio-science research and development center. The overall vision for the property is to preserve 40 existing historic structures, add residential units and build a 30-acre event-festival space.

http://www.ajc.com/business/two-proposals-submitted-for-1298361.html

shivtim · #**4051** Posted **Jan 12, 2012, 2:03 PM**

Dual-branded hotel at 10th and Williams now has a 2nd floor.

shivtim · #**4052** Posted **Jan 12, 2012, 2:16 PM**

CDC expansion on Buford Hwy campus:

jnihiser · #**4053** Posted **Jan 12, 2012, 6:15 PM**

The apartment tower going up on the southside of Pharr (roughly across from Eclipse) is in motion. They are currently putting in the parking deck in the middle of the prop.

Rock.

cityenthusiast · #**4054** Posted **Jan 12, 2012, 6:17 PM**

Anyone have a rendering of the CDC expansion? Thanks

That guy · #**4055** Posted **Jan 12, 2012, 8:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by cityenthusiast

Anyone have a rendering of the CDC expansion? Thanks

The CDC rendering is a few pages back, at the bottom of pg201.

shivtim · #**4056** Posted **Jan 12, 2012, 8:51 PM**

^Yep, posted a couple of pages back:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=5538216&postcount=4020
Also here's a smaller night time render:

AtlantaMustang · #**4057** Posted **Jan 13, 2012, 4:41 AM**

I was by the Skyhouse site earlier and it was kinda hard to see as I was in a car and it was dark already, but it looked like site prep had begun and equipment (I.E. bulldozers, etc.) was on site.

cityenthusiast · #**4058** Posted **Jan 13, 2012, 1:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by jnihiser

The apartment tower going up on the southside of Pharr (roughly across from Eclipse) is in motion. They are currently putting in the parking deck in the middle of the prop.

Rock.

Are you talking about the buckhead atlanta development or the tower thats proposed to go across the street?

jnihiser · #**4059** Posted **Jan 13, 2012, 4:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by cityenthusiast

Are you talking about the buckhead atlanta development or the tower thats proposed to go across the street?

This development is on the southside of the street (with Buckhead Atlanta being on the northside of the street).

They are making some quick progress. Very cool to see how fast they are working.

(as a point of reference...there is a huge Billboard for School of Rock right in front of the development as you turn onto Pharr rd. from P-tree.

testarossa50 · #**4060** Posted **Jan 13, 2012, 6:27 PM**

Anyone have some detailed info on the apartment complex on Pharr? Units, stories, etc. It's a pretty big site (~6 acres) to have flown under the radar so much.

edit: quick research shows it is 375 units...not bad.