The Official Saint John, NB Project Thread

[PersonPlaceorThing]

Originally Posted by ErickMontreal

[FONT="Arial"]SJ ranks 15th most dangerous community

Perhaps we have good enough law enforcement that more crimes are reported and dealt with.

[kwajo]

Yeah I'd like to know what kind of criteria was used for these rankings. It obviously wasn't violent crime rates, since we all know Halifax would have led the pack if that were the case.


EDIT: I just looked up the rankings and Halifax is 7th, not 84th as described in that article.

[ErickMontreal]

I was wondering whether the others cities within SJ's CMA have been included ? ( Rothesay, Hampton, ect)

I mean, everybody knows that the most critical neighbourhoods and the most propitious for those kind of things are neighbourhoods located within the city limits. ( Old North-end, Cresent valley, part of south-end ect)

[PersonPlaceorThing]

This story from 94.1 FM news makes a good arguement regarding the crime rate in Saint John:

[Saint John Police Respond to MacLeans Magazine Article]

16:13:15

Saint John Police are countering a MacLeans Magazine article on national crime rankings. The magazine identifies Saint John as the Most Dangerous City in Canada with respect to sexual assaults. Inspector Darrell Scribner with Major Crime tells CHSJ news the article mistakes higher reporting in this city with a higher level of risk.

Scribner says in many jurisdictions victims reporting a sexual assault find the process to be traumatic but Saint John has taken measures to improve that. He says over twenty five years ago the Saint John Police Force became a leader in developing a Family Protection Unit, with special skills in investigating sexual assaults and being sensitive to the needs of victims.

[Dmajackson]

Originally Posted by kwajo

Yeah I'd like to know what kind of criteria was used for these rankings. It obviously wasn't violent crime rates, since we all know Halifax would have led the pack if that were the case.


EDIT: I just looked up the rankings and Halifax is 7th, not 84th as described in that article.

This was mentioned in the Moncton thread as well (they placed 50th).

Just to clarify the Halifax standing. The "urban" area (Former Cities of Halifax and Dartmouth and the former Town of Bedford) is ranked 7th while the former county is ranked 84th. Really the division makes no sense since neither technically exist anymore.

[Helladog]

I see there is some equipment at the Peel Plaza; maybe they're levelling the auto centre place. Anyone know what other buildings are being levelled if any?

[PersonPlaceorThing]

Originally Posted by Helladog

I see there is some equipment at the Peel Plaza; maybe they're levelling the auto centre place. Anyone know what other buildings are being levelled if any?

A storey in the TJ had the costs of demolishing the two buildings that have already come down and the auto shop (which is to come down in ealy March, maybe today). I think these are the only three for now. The little house at the rear of the site is being used for project offices, and will likely stay up for a while.

[Sabien]

Originally Posted by PersonPlaceorThing

Perhaps we have good enough law enforcement that more crimes are reported and dealt with.

That reminds me of what a friend in the RCMP told me regarding crime stats in NB. He works on the team trying to fix the problem. Alot of the stats that are published are often skewed due to the incorrect/inconsistant input of the actual data into their systems.

These rankings of cities are only as good as the people that lack the training to input the data properly. After hearing about the problems with the RCMP, I've lost faith in the credibility of those reports.

[Sabien]

What is being built at the SJ Airport? I drove by Thursday and saw some big steel going up. It looks like it might be a large hanger or something.

[expofan]

An old building across from the Lancaster mall came down the other day. Making way for more building when the old Sobey's is turned into the big lawton's or perhaps to make way for different traffic patterns in the area when the streets in the area get redeveloped over the next few years??

[Helladog]

Going...going...


Photo: Helladog

[michael_d40]

Originally Posted by Helladog

Going...going...


Photo: Helladog

Was in that area today. Its completely tore down. Also, they have a sign up now for Chateau Saint John with a picture at the site. I didnt have my cam so I wasnt able to take any pics

[PersonPlaceorThing]

Originally Posted by Helladog

Going...going...

Gone.

[kwajo]

Also posted in the North of Union thread:

I was looking over the CEU report about the site this morning, and then looked at the actual development that is slated to begin construction in a couple months, and boy am I disappointed. Seriously, how did a site with so much potential degrade into what it is now? The CEU report identifies numerous aspects of development that have been completely disregarded by the city, including: not allowing parking to dominate a development, orienting buildings to the street, maintaining the street grid and converting Hazen Avenue to pedestrian-only, focusing on all buildings being 5-6 stories and adding landmark buildings (150 feet) as terminating vistas, incorporating subsidised and market-rate housing to help attract young people and families to the Uptown, respecting existing streetwall, and the list goes on and on. What happened here? We've lost out on a real opportunity to make Uptown a destination in the region, especially combined with the Coast Guard development (which thankfully has a much denser and more mixed-se design) and the Irving HQ (imagine Irving Oil workers living in new condos/apartments North of Union and just walking down the hill to work every day rather than driving from KV).

I'm just flabbergasted by this complete lack of leadership from the city on this one, it just disgusts me.

[thebrad]

Originally Posted by kwajo

Also posted in the North of Union thread:

I was looking over the CEU report about the site this morning, and then looked at the actual development that is slated to begin construction in a couple months, and boy am I disappointed. Seriously, how did a site with so much potential degrade into what it is now? The CEU report identifies numerous aspects of development that have been completely disregarded by the city, including: not allowing parking to dominate a development, orienting buildings to the street, maintaining the street grid and converting Hazen Avenue to pedestrian-only, focusing on all buildings being 5-6 stories and adding landmark buildings (150 feet) as terminating vistas, incorporating subsidised and market-rate housing to help attract young people and families to the Uptown, respecting existing streetwall, and the list goes on and on. What happened here? We've lost out on a real opportunity to make Uptown a destination in the region, especially combined with the Coast Guard development (which thankfully has a much denser and more mixed-se design) and the Irving HQ (imagine Irving Oil workers living in new condos/apartments North of Union and just walking down the hill to work every day rather than driving from KV).

I'm just flabbergasted by this complete lack of leadership from the city on this one, it just disgusts me.

Sounds like some classic backroom politics as usual. Someone made out big time on this and it won't be the city or it's inhabitants. In addition, if it was something like that, then it went to the lowest bidder to develop the land. Don't be surprised if in a few years, there are reports of foundation cracking or structural problems.

[Helladog]

Originally Posted by kwajo

Also posted in the North of Union thread:

I was looking over the CEU report about the site this morning, and then looked at the actual development that is slated to begin construction in a couple months, and boy am I disappointed. Seriously, how did a site with so much potential degrade into what it is now? The CEU report identifies numerous aspects of development that have been completely disregarded by the city, including: not allowing parking to dominate a development, orienting buildings to the street, maintaining the street grid and converting Hazen Avenue to pedestrian-only, focusing on all buildings being 5-6 stories and adding landmark buildings (150 feet) as terminating vistas, incorporating subsidised and market-rate housing to help attract young people and families to the Uptown, respecting existing streetwall, and the list goes on and on. What happened here? We've lost out on a real opportunity to make Uptown a destination in the region, especially combined with the Coast Guard development (which thankfully has a much denser and more mixed-se design) and the Irving HQ (imagine Irving Oil workers living in new condos/apartments North of Union and just walking down the hill to work every day rather than driving from KV).

I'm just flabbergasted by this complete lack of leadership from the city on this one, it just disgusts me.

Well the only real advantage to seeking a private partner on this would be to get get expressions of interest in developing the property along with residential, retail, etc. and get a few designs and ideas before choosing a developer. But it`s just for the police and parking garage now. Who is going to come by in the next few years to buy a few washed out buildings in that area with no hope of building new.

[davehook_729]

I think this SSP group of minds should be the ones running the City!
I'm forever disappointed with the way golden opportunities are handled in this city!

[PersonPlaceorThing]

There is work being done on the building that houses O'Leary's. Anyone know what's up?

[michael_d40]

Just seen on tonights ctv news, they will be opening the new hotel this August.

[Joe]

August seems a little optimistic. How long has it taken to finish the cruiseship terminal? Is it even completed yet?