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"Riff raff"... It's not 2003 anymore... All walks of life hang out down there
You know those are drug dealers who hang out at 15th station, they and the homeless spill over to 15th and chestnut. That block is essentially their fast food food court. It was the avery and moving the wendy's that kicked it down a notch and finishing the W will be the next major thing to end it.
     
     
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[QUOTE=MikeNigh;7182312]You know those are drug dealers who hang out at 15th station, they and the homeless spill over to 15th and chestnut. That block is essentially their fast food food court. It was the avery and moving the wendy's that kicked it down a notch and finishing the W will be the next major thing to end it.[/QU

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You know those are drug dealers who hang out at 15th station, they and the homeless spill over to 15th and chestnut. That block is essentially their fast food food court. It was the avery and moving the wendy's that kicked it down a notch and finishing the W will be the next major thing to end it.
Those guys sell loosies not drugs!
     
     
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The group behind a hotel proposal at the Little Pete's restaurant site has ceased efforts to brand the project as a Philadelphia sibling to New York's trendy Hudson Hotel and will develop the property as an upscale Hyatt instead.

Carol Horne Penn, project director for Chancellor Hotel Associates, said in written testimony to City Council members Wednesday that the project near Rittenhouse Square would be built under the banner of Hyatt's boutique Centric brand.
     
     
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Hyatt Centric hotels are suppose to be trendy. Hopefully we get a great design behind it. And, it seems like a push for Hyatt to get back into Philly since selling its waterfront hotel at Penn's Landing.
     
     
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Hyatt Centric hotels are suppose to be trendy. Hopefully we get a great design behind it. And, it seems like a push for Hyatt to get back into Philly since selling its waterfront hotel at Penn's Landing.
There is still a Hyatt in Philly. It's one of Philly's 5 star hotels. Hyatt at Bellevue
     
     
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There is still a Hyatt in Philly. It's one of Philly's 5 star hotels. Hyatt at Bellevue
Right...senior moment-failed to acknowledge that one. Also, one of my architecturally favorite bldg.
     
     
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Not only that, most of the retail spots are leased up in this block- I dont see any mass consolidation anytime soon. Not sure what chestnut street people on this forum frequent, but Chestnut between broad and the Brickstone development is in far worse shape than the 1500 block.
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212-24 S. 3rd Street - Society Hill
Update from Naked Philly

-On 3rd Street between Walnut Street and Willings Alley.
-Old 4 story Salvation Army building on the corner will be converted to 14 apartments.
-Funky lot/building next door will be demolished and replaced by four new homes/McMansions.

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Not only that, most of the retail spots are leased up in this block- I dont see any mass consolidation anytime soon. Not sure what chestnut street people on this forum frequent, but Chestnut between broad and the Brickstone development is in far worse shape than the 1500 block.
Yes, the 12 & 13 hundred blocks of Chestnut are really rough, what with their Brazilian steakhouses, Bavarian bierhalls, upscale bowling lounges, overpriced furniture stores, fancy cupcake vendors, and boutique grocery stores. And don't even get me started on the Macy's or the Starbuck's or the Capital Grille.
     
     
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Yes, the 12 & 13 hundred blocks of Chestnut are really rough, what with their Brazilian steakhouses, Bavarian bierhalls, upscale bowling lounges, overpriced furniture stores, fancy cupcake vendors, and boutique grocery stores. And don't even get me started on the Macy's or the Starbuck's or the Capital Grille.
I see common sense is lacking so I will clarify. Many people here seem to think a block or intersection is "bad" based on how many "undesirable" people may walk down that block or shop on that block. The 1500 block of chestnut is almost fully leased (and has been for a while) and its full of activity. The blocks to the east are nearly dead. Do you even walk down the blocks I'm talking about? There are tons of vacancies and crappy storefronts with paper in the windows. Macys? That is the back entrance that is barely used- although its better than the rest of the block. The south side of chestnut in particular is horrible. In case you missed it the olive garden closed and now there is another vacany on this stretch. The only thing that has opened recently is a biscuit place in a very narrow storefront near 13th. The fact that the businesess you mentioned are located on east chestnut(you named basically the only open businesses in that sector) only makes the REST of the 1000-1300 block stretch seem that much worse. It looks terrible and its a dead zone.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 1, 2015, 2:01 PM
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I see common sense is lacking so I will clarify. Many people here seem to think a block or intersection is "bad" based on how many "undesirable" people may walk down that block or shop on that block. The 1500 block of chestnut is almost fully leased (and has been for a while) and its full of activity. The blocks to the east are nearly dead. Do you even walk down the blocks I'm talking about? There are tons of vacancies and crappy storefronts with paper in the windows. Macys? That is the back entrance that is barely used- although its better than the rest of the block. The south side of chestnut in particular is horrible. In case you missed it the olive garden closed and now there is another vacany on this stretch. The only thing that has opened recently is a biscuit place in a very narrow storefront near 13th. The fact that the businesess you mentioned are located on east chestnut(you named basically the only open businesses in that sector) only makes the REST of the 1000-1300 block stretch seem that much worse. It looks terrible and its a dead zone.
All the damned time. Which is why I'm completely astounded at your post. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the 1300 block of Chestnut Street, which has 2 upscale steakhouses, 2 mid-upscale furniture stores, a major department store (and btw, that back entrance gets far heavier use than the front entrance on Market), a Starbucks, multiple other restaurants including a place that dishes out Bavarian craft beer and wursts, a flagship Walgreen's, an art supply shop, an army-navy store, a grocery store, and a bowling lounge. Did I forget anything on else on this ONE BLOCK STRETCH of retail hell? Oh, yeah, the biscuit place and the Value Plus in the iconic Hale building that was purchased by Brickstone to be redeveloped. There are like 3 vacancies on the entire block, and I think that two of them are owned by the Church of Scientology of all people.

Oh, btw, I don't know when you're on the 1300 block of Chestnut, but whenever I'm there, it's packed. As is 13th between Chestnut and Walnut.

Now, the 11 & 12 hundred blocks are certainly less lively / trendy but it's not Chernobyl. The 1100 block has Milkboy & Philly Cupcakes on either end as the sexier shops sandwiching the new Brickstone development. The 1200 block has Grocery, Cella Luxuria (the third upscale furniture store in less than two blocks), Spice 28 (another restaurant, how many is that? I've lost count), & the future Drexel Law School building going in at the old Beneficial Savings building. Sure, there's lots of not so sexy retail on these stretches, but there's nothing wrong with a Sleepy's, or a 7/11, or a UPS store, or a Dunkin' Donuts, or a rather large state store, or a couple of banks, or a couple of cell phone stores, etc.
     
     
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I think 1487 is defending 1500 chestnut more than being down on 1300.

Personally, I think 1500 could use a serious make-over. That's just me tho.

1300 has a ways to go, but is a long way from its wig shop discount beauty supply days. Strong upward trajectory. 1500 not really changing much yet. Still a bit crappy and rundown. Unless you really go for Wendy's.
     
     
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2nd & Vine - Old City - new $1M mansions rising on two corners

Southwest Corner - once an empty lot





Northwest Corner - once a parking lot



http://www.ocfrealty.com/naked-philly/old-city/three-more-mansions-for-old-city
     
     
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Chestnut Street discussion

Doesn't the 1100 block of Chestnut have a huge redevelopment going on at the very moment that will bring in a Target and new Liquor store? Across from that the Market East construction is set to overflow on to Chestnut with it's final phases.

1500 block has a couple shoe stores, a modells, and an H&M. It also has a Five Guys, who can complain about that!?!

The 1500 block of Chestnut does have some crummy facades plastered on top of what may have once been nice buildings and not a lot of height. Shouldn't that be the argument on this page? Not rif raf...
     
     
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Delaware River waterfront to open new pier park

Opening of Pier 68 Park. Small tidbits about Festival Pier redevelopment and the cap over I-95 but not much new info.

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